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I bought it because the bayo one was pretty great
But yeah wasn't worth it in this.case. info all on the net in a much more convenient to access form
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I just had a horrible realization about Bayonetta 2...
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I bought it because the bayo one was pretty great
But yeah wasn't worth it in this.case. info all on the net in a much more convenient to access form
How do you rip music from Wii U games? Also, is the quality of the sound as good with such rips (even if it was possible) in comparison to a properly mastered CD release?
I mean, I do know I'll get to listen to the music from Youtube, but the quality takes a noticeable hit and listening to long lists of music through Youtube isn't quite as smooth an experience as just putting a CD inside a CD player/PC or ripping FLACs and listening them on foobar or something.
I'm also a collector and like having physical CDs so I'm not as dependent on online services, just in case Google decides that nope, VG music isn't ok anymore.
Wonderful 101 sold how many copies?
Why should a company release an official OST just so that 10 people or something like that buy one copy? Yeah, it's sad, but you can't really complain about specifically that game, because I think no company would release an OST in that situation.
Deadly Premonition sold many more and the company still didn't want to release an official OST.
Totally agree. I seriously hate the current Sony method of adding OSTs to Limited Editions as digital download. For me that's just like never having released it in the first place. Even if it was lossless, it would still be shitty.
GameAddict411
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well, lets be honest here there is a great chance that this game is going to be the last in the series because of its exclusivity to the wii-u. the game will bomb and no one is going to make a sequal afterword(for obvious reasons).
I didn't want to post list so I only gave two examples off the top of my head. But you're right about finding it difficult to get certain soundtracks and Club Nintendo exclusives are a pain in the neck, but having them available on there contradicts your statement that "Nintendo treats their fans like crap".
I guess Nintendo is just not in the business of releasing OST CDs, they do it occasionally for fans on Club Nintendo, maybe they just don't see any money in it.
Miles Quaritch
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Didn't CBOAT hint that they were possibly working on an X1 exclusive X1? I'm sure that, along with most realising their U games were niche titles, will see them continue to get work.
It also helps that Team Ninja is being led by an incompetent arse and Capcom are outsourcing DMC...
Well for newer games, I just had to turn off all sound effects and VO(if the options are there) and just record the game audio with my PC and then do a little editing. It takes some time depending on the game, but I think it's worthwhile if you really enjoy the music.
Let's be real honest. If it weren't for the WiiU the first one would have been the last of the series.
SkeptiMism
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What does that matter? If Nintendo hadn't stepped up there wouldn't have been a sequel anyway, and even if there had been a sequel it's extremely unlikely there would be a 3rd game anyway (I think Kamiya has said that too, that there wouldn't be a 3rd game ever for the series).
Well, let's be more honest. People will continue to not understand this.
Every Bayonetta 2 thread is about this!!! EVERY THREAD
How does it contradict with it? Making fans jump through hoops that a majority of mankind can't even jump through (as in, Club Nintendo is only available in a handful of countries in the world) IS treating fans like crap, limiting that even further by making super-limited batches of those OSTs is crapping on them even more (since a minority of those Club Nintendo members can even get the OST no matter how much a larger portion of them would probably want to). The rest of big and small Japanese developers/publishers starting from the much hated big ones like Square Enix and Capcom to more loved smaller ones like Atlus & Falcom all release OSTs from their games to a wider public for ALL (or a majority) of their games, whereas I can't buy the OST for Super Mario 3D World even though it's one of the biggest (gaming) franchises in the world.
But they DO create OSTs. They DO master the music for CD releases and create cover art/CD art and put OSTs through production/printing. Then they decide that only a select few in the world can get them FOR FREE. I'd say that, after going the huge trouble of creating such physical OSTs, releasing those OSTs for general purchase is more profitable than handing out them for free for few Club Nintendo members. If Capcom, Square Enix and the like can make it profitable for niche games like Nier, Drakengard III and Last Ranker, then I'd wager a guess that I'm right about with a 100% certainty that Nintendo could make Super Mario, Legend of Zelda, Metroid etc. OSTs profitable. I mean, the Fire Emblem Awakening OST is SOLD THE FUCK OUT at every Japanese online import retailer I can think of. Clearly there's demand for Nintendo OSTs if even a super-fucking-niche franchise like Fire Emblem can sell out its OST release (in Nintendo's scale, at least, FE is tiny in comparison to Pokemon, Mario, Zelda and Animal Crossing)
This premise is very suspect.
Mass Effect
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Every. Single. Bayonetta 2 thread.
And I don't see why there isn't the possibility we'll get something like that again, especially if they decide to do a Collector's edition. Plus I suppose there's always Club Nintendo? Really, it's best to just wait and see for now.
Waylon Drums
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ZOMG this whole time I had no idea I was being treated like crap by Nintendo.
Maybe you don't give a shit about these things, but I do personally feel Nintendo mistreats me as a fan.
I personally hate the facts that
1) I can't find their OSTs even though they DO actually produce & manufacture them (just not for the general public)
2) their games cost premium even 10 years after release (would it really kill them to put their (bigger) games on sale/dropping their prices from time to time? I'm not the richest person in the world and I can't afford to buy all games for full price, yet there are reasons why I rather buy new than used, even when it comes to older games released 3+ years ago)
3) how 3DS & Wii U are the only completely region-locked gaming platforms nowadays. No one else does that shit anymore, yet Nintendo is even ADDING it to their handheld line after
4) they are handling VC horribly, refusing to give fans what they want (why aren't GBA & SNES games available on 3DS yet? Other than completely ridiculous, idiotic and inane reasons?)
It's the truth. I'm not stupid like some other people and I'm not calling people to boycott Nintendo or Bayonetta 2 or anything. I'll continue buying the good Nintendo games I'm interested in. But they don't really treat their fans well IN SOME WAYS. Of course they create great games and I've read decent customer service stories related to Nintendo, but there are ways they treat fans quite badly in comparison to other console manufacturers/publishers.
This thread really is about how shitty Nintendo is towards the VGM community as far as physical (or even digital) OST releases go.
Catchpenny
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Famassu, you've made me curious: are there really many companies that sell OSTs in non-Club Nintendo countries?
Well, game stores in Finland don't generally have Square Enix or Capcom OSTs for sale, no (if that's what you mean), but importing from Amazon, AmiAmi, Play-Asia & straight from some publishers/distributors of VG music is a perfectly viable option in this day & age of global marketplaces.
I mean, for example, I'm a huge fan of Yoko Shimomura yet I don't have Last Ranker's OST yet. Last Ranker is a Japan only, not-a-huge seller PSP game, yet even now, 3,5 years after the game's release, I can go to CDJapan.co.jp, type Last Ranker in the search field and order a copy of its OST in about 1 minute. With Nintendo? I'm lucky if there has even been an OST release of any kind, lucky if it's available through normal retailers instead of being a Club Nintendo exclusive, even luckier if that OST release is still in stock (actually, other than Pokemon OSTs and Xenoblade, I have never seen any Nintendo published game's OST in stock, of those rare cases that one has been released), mega-lucky if an OST of a Nintendo game is being sold on eBay and super-mega-lucky if that OST doesn't cost an arm and a leg to purchase.
In comparison, Fire Emblem Awakening's OST isn't even listed on some of the regular OST-selling sites I know of and seems to be sold out at the ones that do list it. And that game is, what, 9 months old, has been released worldwide and is a bigger & more well known franchise than Last Ranker.
Linkstrikesback
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I do own a Wii U and did buy the Wonderful 101, thank you very much.
Well, at least Kamiya hopes its not the last game in the series.
So meanwhile, lets all be happy that we are getting a sequel and hope that someday we will get a third game too
Well, at least Kamiya hopes its not the last game in the series.
So meanwhile, lets all be happy that we are getting a sequel and hope that someday we will get a third game too
Agreed.
And that it's multi-platform.
Muchi Muchi Pink
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I want physical releases of OSTs as well. Was there ever one for MGR? Because I won't buy music on iTunes.
It's up on Steam, but maybe you mean physical?
Really? They uh....buried the IP, until Nintendo paid money to dig it up.
Which they licensed to Nintendo and are gaining profit or some other perk on. The trademark applicant still lists Sega.
I remember a big fuss over fatal frame as well...Nintendo does not own that either and merely licensed it out from Tecmo KOEI.
Sega were not the actively shopping around with the IP/license. It was Nintendo who went to Sega. If it wasn't for Nintendo, the IP would still be buried 6 feet under. So there's nothing "lucky" about Sega owning the IP. I rather PG owning it.
Sega is totally shit with their IPs, if you aren't a Sonic fan. Yakuza, Bayonetta, VF. They are all dead. Sega releasing Yakuza 1-4 and even the spinoff Dead Souls and gives us the big "fuck you" with Yakuza 5. But wait! We might release Isshin in the West! lol.
By Lucky I meant that Sega probably has control over certain things and can get a OST release greenlit easily.
Sure, greenlitting stuff doesn't costs them money. Let's hope it happens.
Weltall Zero
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You have a pretty loose definition of "horrible". This is a new definition of first world problems... :/
My dear Beelzebub you can't be this tense. Of course my life isn't ruined by this, just used hyperbole for dramatic effect. But yes, this is possibly shitty news for a VGM enthusiast like me.
Weltall Zero
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Well, you care enough to make a topic, but I guess everyone has stuff they care about, and that's good, so carry on.
wat, Free?
You need many of those Club Nintendo codes for them. And how do you get those codes? By buying all sorts of games for Nintendo consoles brand-new. Which gives Ninty lots of money. I would say even more money, than they would have gotten by selling the CDs separately.
I think that's the best way to get people to buy brand new. Fuck online passes and all that crap. Do it the Nintendo way. Give those people exclusive stuff, that they can't get anywhere else.
That's also why those codes go for a few EURO each on ebay.
All that swag is a huge incentive to buy new. Even if you aren't interested, you can still order them and sell them for larger sums on ebay. I would think that this is more profitable than selling a SMG soundtrack for 15EUR.
And where do they sell them? Here in Europe? In US? Nope. Asia/Japan only. I had to import almost everything. Killer 7 OST. Silent Hill Complete Limited Collection. NieR OST. Xenoblade OST. Space Channel 5 OSTs. Tales of Graces OST. Fragile Dreams OST.
It's the same crap with artbooks. Most of them are only sold in Japan/Asia.
Granted, I managed to order the Hitman 2+BloodMoney+Deus Ex:HR OST from US/EU instead of Asia.
Square Enix knows that the music of NieR is top notch and that lots of people loved the music of that game. That's why they release the OST (still only in Asia), because they know that it will sell well. And it sold extremely well. That's why they also released the piano CDs and the remix CD. For a game like Super Mario Galaxy, that didn't sell that well (in comparison to NSMB etc.), do you really think that there would be as many people buying the OST as there were for NieR?
I like the music of SMG, but I didn't play SMG because of the music. I played it because of the gameplay. The music is not in the same league as NieR.
I own the 2-disc SMG soundtrack from Club Nintendo
Digital doesn't count for me. Is it at least lossless or MP3-crap?
CrimsonCrescendo
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Why doesn't digital count? You can get Nier, The Last Remnant, and most Final Fantasy titles after IV on ITunes. You can get most of Platinum Games titles, most Sonic titles after 3 (including Sonic R), all Assassin's Creed games, Bastion, Transistor, Deus Ex: Human Revolution, Halo (all), Gears of War (all), Rareware games, a bunch of other indie titles, etc. I can even get some mobile titles OSTs on ITunes. MANY companies release their OSTs on a wider scale nowadays, which is why Famassu and others like myself are frustrated with Nintendo.
Edit : didn't mean to necro a thread. Yay for Bayo 2 getting a release... But there are still tons of Nintendo titles which don't.
CrimsonCrescendo
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Oh shit. I was linked here from another thread and didn't check the dates.
MagiusNecros
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News to me.
ReyVGM
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There's another thread literally on the first page about it.
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