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Where's that susi_robot guy (forgot his name)? I remember him posting about working all around Asia, including various places in China, all while overstaying his visas multiple times.
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Sorry to hear about all of that. A lot of Chinese schools really do abuse their foreign teachers because it's generally not a big deal to get a replacement one. At the same time, the Chinese government's been cracking down on all the sorts of bureaucratic shit you've been going through, and it just gets real shitty for a lot of people. I'm sorry about the situation with your fiance too, but if it comes down to it, you can always teach in other Asian countries, especially because you aren't focusing on learning Chinese. There are much nicer places to teach in terms of salary, environment (legal and natural), and people, especially when you're talking about staying in fucking Harbin.
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When I decided I wanted to live in Japan, the first thing I did was study the visa requirements extensively. It seemed extremely daunting at first, but diligent study is extremely useful if you are serious. It also really helps if you know the language of the country you want to love in. This is just obvious advice in general, and I know it doesn't really help your current situation.
There's bound to be plenty of "expats in China" type forums out there that might have more practical advice for you.
There's bound to be plenty of "expats in China" type forums out there that might have more practical advice for you.
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If that was intentional, it was brilliant. If it was a Freudian slip, it was beautiful.
To share something mildly amusing, when I read the OP was: "working on a card game for ten years," I said "WTF, tarot or something?" And then I got it.
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Maybe you could find a job in another country in Asia? Maybe South Korea?
LyleLanley
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I'm confused, how did you not know your visa was expiring? Every visa I've had for China has the date of expiry stamped on it. Although I've never had a work visa, just business and tourist visas.
Knowing the local language usually isn't a requirement to teach english in most Asian countries. I know plenty of people in that line of work and most of them are just teaching kids who already know a decent amount of english.
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All of that being said if I were you I'd go back home get a job and work this all out. If I've learned anything about Chinese visas/customs it's that everything sounds a lot more horrible than it actually is.
Knowing the local language usually isn't a requirement to teach english in most Asian countries. I know plenty of people in that line of work and most of them are just teaching kids who already know a decent amount of english.
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All of that being said if I were you I'd go back home get a job and work this all out. If I've learned anything about Chinese visas/customs it's that everything sounds a lot more horrible than it actually is.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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I hope so. Also for Z visas it's a bit more tricky, actually. The thing says; "Enter before Feb. 9th." and "The days of expiration say 000". If you have your visas still, you can see the days and such and it is clear as day (as I've had these before as well). However with an unsolved visa which should lead to a residency permit, it's a different spool of thread. The 0's are to tell you, you need to get your residency permit ASAP. Problem was, they said there were no problems and it shouldn't have been an issue for me to return to the U.S. but there certainly were problems that they hadn't expected. So that's where I'm at.
Bureaucracy. Can't say much about what's going to happen. You shouldn't worry too much about it. The worst thing that can happen is deportation, not jail time or anything.
As for your fiancee, tough time ahead. Take it this way, this is a test for both of you. If you guys can't make it, maybe you are not meant to be together.
As for your fiancee, tough time ahead. Take it this way, this is a test for both of you. If you guys can't make it, maybe you are not meant to be together.
Alex Connolly
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Those halcyon teaching in China days. I recall I wandered in with another foreign friend to a police station on our lunch break, which IIRC had something to do with registering our motorbikes. Some cop from a different department then asked us for our foreign worker books - I can't recall the exact name - and I had no idea what he was talking about. Turns out our school hadn't actually ever issued them to us in the first place, so we were detained for a day in a Hubei cop shop without actually knowing what we'd done wrong...
The bureaucracy is astounding and very much part of the culture, and even when there's big books thrown in front of you there containing rules and regulations, the words are indeed more important than the actions. It's red tape and red stamps.
I would have taken the job, personally, built up that guanshi and just solidified contacts and played the face game. After a year or so, strike out on your own. That said, these suggests are moot at this point. Hope you can work something out.
The bureaucracy is astounding and very much part of the culture, and even when there's big books thrown in front of you there containing rules and regulations, the words are indeed more important than the actions. It's red tape and red stamps.
I would have taken the job, personally, built up that guanshi and just solidified contacts and played the face game. After a year or so, strike out on your own. That said, these suggests are moot at this point. Hope you can work something out.
Sir Abacus
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The filing fees for a K1 visa run about $2100. The I-485 filing fee alone is $970. That's assuming you don't get a lawyer and then you run the risk of screwing up everything through lack of understanding of the behemoth that is US immigration bullshit. And you also have to get married within 90 days of the fiance arriving so add the cost of a wedding on top of that.
Bringing a foreign fiance/spouse to the United States is an extremely costly proposition full of hassle and shouldn't be entered into lightly. It involves lots of waiting, days off for appointments and lots of uncertainty. Plus, unless you work some immigration magic, you're usually apart until the fiance visa is approved. Try to resolve whatever you can in China before you even consider going down this path.
I talked to the school owner and he said I shouldn't be blacklisted for this mistake since I didn't know better and it ws technically his school's fault. I guess the chance to go back to China is still there, but by the sounds of it, I doubt he wants me to work for his company again. Problem averted? Perhaps... I'll find out on Monday when I go to the Embassy for an exit visa.
peanutbutterlatte
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Rule No. 1: It's (Almost) never as bad as you think it is. Things have a way of working out.
It is, just not one that needs a strong english university background.
Glad I'm not the only one to caught this :lol
Lactose_Intolerant
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been in prison for a week. Rats are starting to look tempting
Just wanted to chime in and say that you may or may not get some more helpful replies on Dave's ESL (eslcafe.com) or even in the 'teaching in Asia' thread:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=145967
I've been following Dave's regularly for the past several months and there's always people with strange Visa situations in China asking for advice. Boggles my mind that you've lived there for 4 years and still let this situation happen though. Good luck!
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=145967
I've been following Dave's regularly for the past several months and there's always people with strange Visa situations in China asking for advice. Boggles my mind that you've lived there for 4 years and still let this situation happen though. Good luck!
SnakeswithLasers
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Seriously, I thought guy was talking about something that wasn't entry level for every aimless white kid in the universe.
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Haha..love that this got bumped and people are still asking this question.
It's more than likely that op:
1. Doesn't have any teaching background or licenses in America
2. Doesn't speak/understand Chinese fluently enough to be able to teach it
Just assumptions though.
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