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I miss the open world modern jet fighter games

It wasn't open world?! Falcon 4 was the most amazing open-world ever created in a flight simulator. Every vehicle and aircraft were simulated over the entire country in an all-out war on the Korean Peninsula.

F4's dynamic campaign was mind-blowing at the time, and it still is to this day. Nothing has even come close.

Reading up on that game, it sounds brutal!
 
I'm a bit more old school than most of you.

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This, and the sequel/remake F-117, was my favorite PC game of the late 80s. Until UFO: Enemy Unknown came out.

F29 Retaliator!

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I loved this and Fighter Bomber on the Amiga.
(not properly "Open World" i'd say. Just "very large maps"... of course. :) )

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I'm a bit more old school than most of you.

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This, and the sequel/remake F-117, was my favorite PC game of the late 80s. Until UFO: Enemy Unknown came out.

I preferred the F-15 Strike Eagle games myself.

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Played mostly the second one of the three.
 
Wait what are games like DCS world considered then?

A bit too much? D:

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What's amazing is that those games feel so old, but the actual machines in them still feel like super high-tech. Games have evolved a lot in little time.

For example the first F-22 game came out in 1996, but the plane wasn't in service until 2005.
Yep. Look at this. It looks something out from the future, but it's old stuff.


Yes OP, I miss Novalogic too.. I thought the Hawx games could replace them but they didn't :(
Man, I used to love Delta Force, Comanche, Mig-29 and F-16 and F-22... I really miss them. =/

I preferred the F-15 Strike Eagle games myself.

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Played mostly the second one of the three.
Hey, I played this game so much on my Mega Drive/Genesis...
 
Man, I played a ton of F-22 Raptor
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That game was a blast. Hilarious when it let you go totally non-stealth and just cover the wing pylons with AMRAAMs... And they wanted you to use your gun on everything.

Ah, being a kid.

Also: A-10 Tank Killer
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Was so good! I mean, awful now, but it was awesome back then.

Also played a lot of Red Baron, old WW1 game.
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And for the purely silly, F-111X was friggin hilarious. Strafing full on sideways at max speed? Ridiculous. So was bouncing off the ground like a rubber ball.
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Man, I played a ton of F-22 Raptor
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That game was a blast. Hilarious when it let you go totally non-stealth and just cover the wing pylons with AMRAAMs... And they wanted you to use your gun on everything.

Ah, being a kid.

Damn, I remember many kid hours spent playing F-22 Raptor and Jane's Combat Simulator
 
Well we had the Cold War and that gave us wargames and military computer simulation games. Then we had the Gulf War and War on Terror, and that gave us multiple iterations of Call of Duty.
 
Here's a few that I haven't seen mentioned.

F-117 Night Storm on the Sega Genesis

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And...

Team Apache by Simis and Mindscape for PC

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Team Apache I guess wasn't very popular as I couldn't find any decent videos on YouTube. (And there were hardly any videos of it to begin with!) I remember it being a fairly decent Apache sim but in retrospect it probably wasn't all that sophisticated compared to other attack helicopter sims out at the time. But it had a nice blend of sim gameplay with arcadey options going for it I guess. I remember there being an auto-pilot mode if you just wanted to play gunner and blast away with the missiles and gun.
 
Man, I played a ton of F-22 Raptor
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That game was a blast. Hilarious when it let you go totally non-stealth and just cover the wing pylons with AMRAAMs... And they wanted you to use your gun on everything.

Ah, being a kid.

Damn, I remember many kid hours spent playing F-22 Raptor and Jane's Combat Simulator

I'm pretty sure f-22 was the one where I figured out true stealth mode was rolling along the ground lol...

Anyone ever play that apache gunship sim? These were hard ass games
 
I played a ton of F22- Lightning / Raptor, loved those games so much.
Hard as fuck but god was it fun with a joystick !

Btw, am I the only one who played nearly all the Flight Simulator's from MS ?
I would just load it up and go straight to Tahiti to check on those rumored Hula girls...
 
I played the shit out of F-22 Lightning II.


But apart from the realistic military flight sims, there were a few games that had a similar balance of light sim controls and arcade gameplay. Admittedly, some of them might be more arcadey, but they're still set in a large map with weapon loadouts, different weapon, targeting, navigation and control systems, mission objectives etc.

Armour-Geddon

Killing Cloud

Darker

Subwar 2050

Embryo
 
Could VR bring a return to this genre? This seems like the kind of game I'd want to play in VR, unless it causes too much motion sickness.
 
Could VR bring a return to this genre? This seems like the kind of game I'd want to play in VR, unless it causes too much motion sickness.

Anything with a cockpit is a natural fit for a seated VR experience, so I'm hoping it will. Having certain details in your surroundings to help you feel anchored apparently helps a lot, like seeing your cockpit or even having a virtual nose. Also experiencing more extreme situations that would require simulating different g-forces apparently can be problematic because your body doesn't feel them yet you've crashed and flipped your car etc.

I think there might be a problem with the controls for some of the more advanced sims (or just games with a lot of controls in general), since you'd either need to get an adequate controller, HOTAS or whatever with lots of buttons, or find a way to see your keyboard with a pass-through or something down the line in future VR gens. I suppose using motion controls (like the Vive controllers or even hand tracking like Leap Motion) might also be used to push the actual 3D buttons and flip switches in VR space, but even with added extreme precision, I thinking that the lack of haptic feedback would probably make it impractical. I mean those would be the same issues that make such sims inadequate for consoles, or rather their controllers, even without VR.
 
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