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From the stability standpoint, it might be better if the motherboard omits overclocking. Less things to tempt me into getting over my head.
I would argue the following: motherboards that are built with OC in mind are engineered to withstand more stress, so if you use a motherboard that is intended to be used to the limits of reason and sanity in a "normal" way it will have an easy time and should hence be more reliable.
 

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Another thing is gaming through streaming (Like PSNow) will probably be a reality by 2020 so you could probably game pretty decently by paying a sub instead of investing a lot of money at once.
When you consider how badly people fret about input lag (oh my god 20ms is too slow!), I find it hard to believe any serious gamer will ever take streaming seriously.
 

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From the stability standpoint, it might be better if the motherboard omits overclocking. Less things to tempt me into getting over my head.
Ryzens don't work like that. PBO and XFR2 allow for an "over" boost if the CPU notices that the cooler and VRM's amperage are up to it, "classic" overclocking is counterproductive as it's merged in the core-parking routine, you might still be able to squeeze the proverbial lemon by adding some counts to the BCLK (with some obvious consequences).
They got some more design quirks to keep in mind like Gear-down mode always setting the memory to an even CAS Latency (making shelling out money for, say a CL15 pointless) and the IF bus being locked to the RAM clock.
 
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I think it will surprise us.

We'll have to wait and see, though.
There is always going to be internet input lag. Always. Then you have to consider the TV input lag as well.
 

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There is always going to be internet input lag. Always. Then you have to consider the TV input lag as well.
No doubt but I think it will get to a point it will make games playable for most.

Right not it's just perfect for casuals but I think in a couple of years it will be viable for more serious gamers (although probably not for competitive).
 

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I would argue the following: motherboards that are built with OC in mind are engineered to withstand more stress, so if you use a motherboard that is intended to be used to the limits of reason and sanity in a "normal" way it will have an easy time and should hence be more reliable.
I guess. In any case, assume I'm a stubborn goat and flatly *refuse* to OC no matter what anybody tells me.

Ryzens don't work like that. PBO and XFR2 allow for an "over" boost if the CPU notices that the cooler and VRM's amperage are up to it, "classic" overclocking is counterproductive as it's merged in the core-parking routine, you might still be able to squeeze the proverbial lemon by adding some counts to the BCLK (with some obvious consequences).
They got some more design quirks to keep in mind like Gear-down mode always setting the memory to an even CAS Latency (making shelling out money for, say a CL15 pointless) and the IF bus being locked to the RAM clock.
So... which motherboard brands are exceptionally stable?
 

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I guess. In any case, assume I'm a stubborn goat and flatly *refuse* to OC no matter what anybody tells
So... which motherboard brands are exceptionally stable?
I posted this before on Era, but i got run out of that place. Buildzoid's channel goes into great detail about electrical design of motherboards and specifiaclly the flaws introduced by the cheaper brands. Long story short however, all brands use crippled dc-dc converters on their cheaper boards, only evega seems to overdesign on them.
 

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I posted this before on Era, but i got run out of that place. Buildzoid's channel goes into great detail about electrical design of motherboards and specifiaclly the flaws introduced by the cheaper brands. Long story short however, all brands use crippled dc-dc converters on their cheaper boards, only evega seems to overdesign on them.
I appreciate the effort, but I don't know how to tell apart a cheaper board from an amazing board.
 

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I appreciate the effort, but I don't know how to tell apart a cheaper board from an amazing board.
Price helps. As probably most things in pc gaming there are tiers of quality and price. A sun 100 usd mobo is probably a cheaply built one, a 400 usd mobo is on the higher end.

Most review sites will identify them as low, mid and high end components.
 

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Price helps. As probably most things in pc gaming there are tiers of quality and price. A sun 100 usd mobo is probably a cheaply built one, a 400 usd mobo is on the higher end.

Most review sites will identify them as low, mid and high end components.
Yeah, if only companies would post "mean time between failure" data for mobos.
Make life a lot simpler.
 

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Yeah, if only companies would post "mean time between failure" data for mobos.
Make life a lot simpler.
MTBFs are not considered to be a "sexy" metric, and consumers are always treated like the mentally disabled. It's sometimes funny to see how jarring the differences are between the consumer product page (Japanese capacitors!, fancy looking decals, html 5 presentations, LOOK, BRIGHT COLORS!) and the enterprise ones (spec sheets, MTBFs, long texts about their historically excellent record).
 

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Hey just curious. At what point do you think one would actually need 16GB of Ram. Like how do you tell? I have 8GB in my new PC I built about a week or so back. Is this something I should prioritize for gaming and video editing?

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I'm using a 1070ti with a i5 8400 coffee lake CPU
860 Evo SSD. Thanks in advance.
 
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Hey just curious. At what point do you think one would actually need 16GB of Ram. Like how do you tell? I have 8GB in my new PC I built about a week or so back. Is this something I should prioritize for gaming and video editing?

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I'm using a 1070ti with a i5 8400 coffee lake CPU
860 Evo SSD. Thanks in advance.

I built a 8600K and 1070ti with 8 Gb a few months ago. I felt Asscreed Origins wasn't giving me the performance I expected for that build. I decided to add 8 Gb more and I got better min frames and better average.
If you are doing video editing the more the better.

Also pay attention to the frequency. There are improvements from 2200 mhz and 2700 - 3000 mhz+ in games.
 

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I built a 8600K and 1070ti with 8 Gb a few months ago. I felt Asscreed Origins wasn't giving me the performance I expected for that build. I decided to add 8 Gb more and I got better min frames and better average.
If you are doing video editing the more the better.

Also pay attention to the frequency. There are improvements from 2200 mhz and 2700 - 3000 mhz+ in games.
Sorry I'm kinda new to PC. First build n all. When you mention frequency are you referring to the RAM Mhz? Or the processor?
 

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Sorry I'm kinda new to PC. First build n all. When you mention frequency are you referring to the RAM Mhz? Or the processor?
No problem, glad to help!

In this case we are talking about memory frequency, the memory's Mhz.

If you are adding RAM your best bet to get an stable system is to add the exact same brand and model of memory. Usually, it's best to purchase those kits (2X8GB, 2X4) etc. So if for example, you already got a Kingston stick rated for 2800 Mhz, try to look for the exact same model. Chances are it will work just fine but if you get a different model, there is an increased chance of system instability, specially if you are running a dual channel set up.
 

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Sorry for the double post but I need a second opinion.

As I mentioned previously, I built a PC a few months ago (like 3) with the following components:

i5 8600K
Gigabyte z370 Gaming 7 mobo
G.Skill Ram (2x8gb)
Asus 1070ti Turbo

It's been working great until yesterday. I started working on a studio in my home and decided to move my PC yesterday. I placed everything on the new location, reconnected the cables and turned it on. It worked fine for like 20 minutes and then it suddenly went off right after I shut down Nex Machina.

I normally game in another room where I have a Samsung TV connected through HDMI so I wasn't even in the same room as the PC. I walked back to the room where the PC is and found it on a boot loop. It doesn't post, just turns on for a couple of seconds and then restart endlessly.

I started troubleshooting everything and ended up disassembling the computer except for the CPU and the same behaviour continues.

Regretfully the Mobo was purchased during a trip to California at Microcenter and apparently Gigabyte doesn't honor warranties for products purchased outside of the country (I'm in Mexico) so it if the Mobo is done, I'll probably have to get a new one locally (at higher prices compared to the US).

The only thing I think I'm missing is the PSU, I'll bring another one tonight and test.

So my question is: can you think of anything else I should try? In your opinion is the motherboard the issue (this sounds like the problem to me)?

Thanks in advance!

Edit: busted PSU
 
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Ewww...well at least it's not a crazy expensive part. Thanks for the explanation. I'll look to buy more memory. Im not at home right now, but I'm using a single 8gb Vengeance stick. I don't know the speed.
 

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I never built a PC, but is it cheaper to make a PC for gaming vs just buying a PC for gaming?
 

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You mean for each part? Cause you can hunt down cheaper PCs from different sellers.
Yeah, I meant cheaper prices per part. For example Microcenter normally offers pretty good motherboard + CPU bundles that can save you up to $50 usd from the regular price: http://www.microcenter.com/site/brands/intel-processor-bundles.aspx

GPU could be cheaper on Newegg comparing to say Amazon or NCIX..

There are specific situations where a pre-built machine could be cheaper like a Black Friday deal but you might have to compromise on some parts. For example maybe the PSU is not as good as it could be if you build it yourself.
 

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Can someone advise me a good 144hz IPS monitor (for gaming and if possible 2k) with lowest ms AND INPUT LAG (those are 2 different things) that has HDR and or G-sync? Are there new monitors coming out in 1-3 months I should wait for? My budget is 299-499 (but am willing to pay more if it has some features that are a must).

Thanks!
 
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That's some work to do! But great job! Thanks for collecting and providing this information, it will take time to build but still... very useful info! Will be watching this thread!
 

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Hi pc-gaf. I've grown lazy in my old age, and don't keep up with hardware too well. I'm a software engineer (php, node, java, python) and my 2015 macbook is starting to show its age, most notably when I've got a lot of editors and vms running and the puny 8GB RAM gets taken to pound town. I've been shopping for macbooks (they just make everything "easier" in my world) but sifting through craigslist/ebay false ads and garbage is exhausting.

I'm at the point where I'm considering a dual-boot windows/linux desktop machine that I can occasionally game on. I don't game much any more, but I do play dota2 from time to time and I also love to buy the latest AAA game, play 10 minutes, and never touch it again, so something that runs dem new fangled games nice an purdy would be cool, too.

I only have a couple requirements: at least 16GB ram and quad core. Softer, but still essential, requirements are that I don't have to fuss with it; every hour I spend fussing with it means fewer hours I can bill, and that it runs linux (most likely ubuntu) well. Budget is around 1800, but honestly it's a business expense so as long as I can get the office manager (old lady) to sign off, I think there's some flex there.

My strategy was going to be just picking the highest spec'd rig from the sticky, but figured I'd check in here to see if now is a good time to buy or if a processor refresh is right around the corner. I don't necessarily need the latest and greatest, but if a new gen is about to knock some of the cost off the current gen line I'd rather wait. Also, if anyone wants to spend my money I'd appreciate the help as I haven't built a PC in quite a few years.

Edit: figured I'd add some more context that I just don't have the energy to overclock anything, and while I don't need the bitchen-est screaminest fast rig, something that will last at least 5 years without shitting out, or something that can stay up to date with minimal upgrades is ideal.

Double edit: Here's a starting point. Any input is valued.

Thanks!

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8600K 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor ($249.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($27.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus - Prime Z370-P ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($330.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($140.78 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($43.90 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition Video Card ($449.99 @ B&H)
Case: Fractal Design - Meshify C Dark TG ATX Mid Tower Case ($96.78 @ Walmart)
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx (2018) 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($92.99 @ Amazon)
Wired Network Adapter: TP-Link - TG-3468 PCI-Express x1 10/100/1000 Mbps Network Adapter ($9.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1553.28
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-09-13 22:26 EDT-0400
 
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So my 3x4GB ram sticks decided they have had enough and started to cause trouble, they randomly get detected/not detected on boot/while running, causing blue screens and crashes.
So I popped in my original 3x2GB ram sticks, and the computer have run fine since, no more problem with randomly getting detected/not detected on boot/while running...

HOWEVER, the drop in total ram is VERY VERY detectable.


So I have TWO options here (both options are prices the same).

a./ 2x8GB ram, total of 16GB ram (dual channel)
Corsair Vengeance Pro Blue 16GB (2x8GB) / 1600MHz / DDR3 / CL9 / CMY16GX3M2A1600C9B

b./. 3x4GB ram, total of 12GB ram (triple channel)
Corsair XMS3 Vengeance 12GB (3x4GB) / 1600MHz / DDR3 / CL 9 / CMZ12GX3M3A1600C9

But will they work with my motherboard/cpu combo?

MB: Asus P6T Deluxe v2 (x58, lga1366)
CPU: Intel Core i7 930 (Bloomfield)
 
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So my 3x4GB ram sticks decided they have had enough and started to cause trouble, they randomly get detected/not detected on boot/while running, causing blue screens and crashes.
So I popped in my original 3x2GB ram sticks, and the computer have run fine since, no more problem with randomly getting detected/not detected on boot/while running...

HOWEVER, the drop in total ram is VERY VERY detectable.


So I have TWO options here (both options are prices the same).

a./ 2x8GB ram, total of 16GB ram (dual channel)
Corsair Vengeance Pro Blue 16GB (2x8GB) / 1600MHz / DDR3 / CL9 / CMY16GX3M2A1600C9B

b./. 3x4GB ram, total of 12GB ram (triple channel)
Corsair XMS3 Vengeance 12GB (3x4GB) / 1600MHz / DDR3 / CL 9 / CMZ12GX3M3A1600C9

But will they work with my motherboard/cpu combo?

MB: Asus P6T Deluxe v2 (x58, lga1366)
CPU: Intel Core i7 930 (Bloomfield)
Yeah, I don't think you'll have any issue with any of those options...
 

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Hi pc-gaf. I've grown lazy in my old age, and don't keep up with hardware too well. I'm a software engineer (php, node, java, python) and my 2015 macbook is starting to show its age, most notably when I've got a lot of editors and vms running and the puny 8GB RAM gets taken to pound town. I've been shopping for macbooks (they just make everything "easier" in my world) but sifting through craigslist/ebay false ads and garbage is exhausting.

I'm at the point where I'm considering a dual-boot windows/linux desktop machine that I can occasionally game on. I don't game much any more, but I do play dota2 from time to time and I also love to buy the latest AAA game, play 10 minutes, and never touch it again, so something that runs dem new fangled games nice an purdy would be cool, too.

I only have a couple requirements: at least 16GB ram and quad core. Softer, but still essential, requirements are that I don't have to fuss with it; every hour I spend fussing with it means fewer hours I can bill, and that it runs linux (most likely ubuntu) well. Budget is around 1800, but honestly it's a business expense so as long as I can get the office manager (old lady) to sign off, I think there's some flex there.

My strategy was going to be just picking the highest spec'd rig from the sticky, but figured I'd check in here to see if now is a good time to buy or if a processor refresh is right around the corner. I don't necessarily need the latest and greatest, but if a new gen is about to knock some of the cost off the current gen line I'd rather wait. Also, if anyone wants to spend my money I'd appreciate the help as I haven't built a PC in quite a few years.

Edit: figured I'd add some more context that I just don't have the energy to overclock anything, and while I don't need the bitchen-est screaminest fast rig, something that will last at least 5 years without shitting out, or something that can stay up to date with minimal upgrades is ideal.

Double edit: Here's a starting point. Any input is valued.

Thanks!

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8600K 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor ($249.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($27.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus - Prime Z370-P ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($330.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($140.78 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($43.90 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition Video Card ($449.99 @ B&H)
Case: Fractal Design - Meshify C Dark TG ATX Mid Tower Case ($96.78 @ Walmart)
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx (2018) 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($92.99 @ Amazon)
Wired Network Adapter: TP-Link - TG-3468 PCI-Express x1 10/100/1000 Mbps Network Adapter ($9.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1553.28
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-09-13 22:26 EDT-0400
Why are you adding another network adapter? If you're trying to setup an LACP bond make sure the switch supports it and even then i dunno well two differently branded nic's will work together. not much else to add really.
 

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Why are you adding another network adapter? If you're trying to setup an LACP bond make sure the switch supports it and even then i dunno well two differently branded nic's will work together. not much else to add really.
I think that was a mistake. Networking is my weakest area. I dropped out of computer school because of it :) There should only be one card. Are you saying the on-board adapter is sufficient and that I don't need an additional adapter?
 

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Is the PC hardware second hand market any good? Was thinking of selling my 970 cause I have a laptop that is pretty beast and I never use my desktop anymore. I would probably get a good desktop if I wasnt traveling so much lately
 

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Is the PC hardware second hand market any good? Was thinking of selling my 970 cause I have a laptop that is pretty beast and I never use my desktop anymore. I would probably get a good desktop if I wasnt traveling so much lately
As someone currently on the buyers' side of the market, it feels a bit like a joke. People value their used, "old" hardware far too much. I totally get you spent 2k on your gaming pc 2 years ago, but there's no chance I'm going to pay $1800 for it.

Edit: so that is to say, if you're looking to get a reasonable amount of money compared to what you spent originally, you're going to get a lot of lowballers like me. Sorry, not sorry.
 
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Quick question about graphics cards. I currently have one 4k monitor, and I'm likely to add another 1440p soon. Long-term I'm considering changing to something curved and with a wider perspective. With that in mind, I see a lot of "card xyz can't run 4k" reviews/statements online, but I'm assuming that's in regard to gaming. I'm fine with 1440p or even 1080p gaming, but my productivity apps I prefer 4k @ 60hz. Refresh rate is important because I am staring at this god forsaken thing for 10+ hours at a time, and can't stand the input delay and cursor hippity hoppiting around in code editors.

So my question is, can a 1070ti handle 4k @ 60hz in productivity/non-gaming desktop apps without being crippled?
 
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As someone currently on the buyers' side of the market, it feels a bit like a joke. People value their used, "old" hardware far too much. I totally get you spent 2k on your gaming pc 2 years ago, but there's no chance I'm going to pay $1800 for it.

Edit: so that is to say, if you're looking to get a reasonable amount of money compared to what you spent originally, you're going to get a lot of lowballers like me. Sorry, not sorry.
Yeah that is part of why I stuck to buying a desktop replacement. I got a gaming laptop for $1300 that comes with a 1070. At the time when I bought it the 1070 for a desktop was selling for $700+... which was nuts
 

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I want to build a new PC but the high memory cost and the GPU price going up each year... Those Nvidia 2000 series prices are insane.
 

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Yeah that is part of why I stuck to buying a desktop replacement. I got a gaming laptop for $1300 that comes with a 1070. At the time when I bought it the 1070 for a desktop was selling for $700+... which was nuts
People somehow seem to not realize a new generation comes out every year. Hardware is a terrible investment. Within two years, it is essentially obsolete, but some sellers still expect to recoup 80-90% of their cost. As a consumer, it's just idiotic for me to buy from craigslist/ebay with the added risk of no return policy/warranty when I can get the latest-gen stuff for just a little more from Amazon--not to mention I can throw it on my credit card for the reward points. There are just so many downsides to buying hardware second-hand, you have to counter that with a financial upside; i.e. make it cheap enough I can't pass it up.
 

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Quick question about graphics cards. I currently have one 4k monitor, and I'm likely to add another 1440p soon. Long-term I'm considering changing to something curved and with a wider perspective. With that in mind, I see a lot of "card xyz can't run 4k" reviews/statements online, but I'm assuming that's in regard to gaming. I'm fine with 1440p or even 1080p gaming, but my productivity apps I prefer 4k @ 60hz. Refresh rate is important because I am staring at this god forsaken thing for 10+ hours at a time, and can't stand the input delay and cursor hippity hoppiting around in code editors.

So my question is, can a 1070ti handle 4k @ 60hz in productivity/non-gaming desktop apps without being crippled?
Yeah, most cards struggling with 4k is regarding rendering 3d graphics in real time. You should be able to run that set up with any discreet card and even most APU.
 

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I think that was a mistake. Networking is my weakest area. I dropped out of computer school because of it :) There should only be one card. Are you saying the on-board adapter is sufficient and that I don't need an additional adapter?
That's exactly what i'm saying yeah, the only reasons to add additional cards are when you're making a DIY network appliance or to add only of those 10gbit cards if your LAN supports it. the onboard controller will do just fine. Networks can be black magic at times, i agree.
 

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A 10% tariff appears to be in effect now for the United States. The tariff is planned to increase to 25% early next-year.
How much it impacts consumer pricing remains to be seen. Currently you can find deals on many components but prices will probably increase in the near future.
Nearly every computer component is affected in North America, and those prices can reach outward to other regions as companies try to stabilize for a downtrend in overall revenue. The tariffs were pushed into law by the US Federal Government, with the first 10% taking effect on October 1st of 2018. After this, an additional 15% tariff will be mandated by the US government on January 1st of 2019.

The full list of tariffs includes power supplies, motherboards, video cards, complete system builds, bridges, SSDs, mouse pads, mice, keyboards and mice only if bundled together (but not on keyboards if sold separately), CPU coolers, cases, chairs, and more...

Gigabyte’s statement to partners noted that notebooks, keyboards, memory, and headsets will be unaffected at this time. Given existing memory price fixing concerns, this is a silver lining around otherwise bad news. We don’t fully understand why motherboards, power supplies, and mice can be affected, but laptops are somehow unaffected.
Source: https://www.gamersnexus.net/industry/3368-manufacturers-on-tariff-impact-to-pc-prices
 

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A 10% tariff appears to be in effect now for the United States. The tariff is planned to increase to 25% early next-year.
How much it impacts consumer pricing remains to be seen. Currently you can find deals on many components but prices will probably increase in the near future.


Source: https://www.gamersnexus.net/industry/3368-manufacturers-on-tariff-impact-to-pc-prices
If consumers aren't complete idiots, they'll just stop buying hardware entirely for a while and force these fucks to put the prices back where they should be. I'm afraid they're too dumb to do that, though.
 

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If consumers aren't complete idiots, they'll just stop buying hardware entirely for a while and force these fucks to put the prices back where they should be. I'm afraid they're too dumb to do that, though.
Which fucks? The ones that put up the tariffs or the ones passing the costs down to customers?
 

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Well in this case they're both fucks, but I was referring to the companies in China.
Can you elaborate, please? I have a feeling we are not talking about the same concepts. The tariffs are US imposed for stuff coming IN the country. What are Chinese companies doing wrong? This is most likely something undesirable for them...
 

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Thinking about making another "I'm poor, but want to PC master race" Rig

CPU
- Ryzen 5 2600 $160

SSD
- Evo 860 500GB $90

RAM
- G Aegis 16GB $130

Power Supply
- Thermaltake 750W 80+ Gold modular with RGB $95
or
- PowerSpec 750W 80+ Bronze semi-modular $60

Motherboard
- Asus ROG Strix B350-F Gaming mobo $115

GPU
EVGA Geforce GTX 1060 3GB (Already owned)

What's the thoughts on this build? Like I said, I'm not trying to burn rubber with the Elites, just something moderate that'll hold me for a while as a casual PC gamer. Any thoughts or inputs welcomed!
 

DGrayson

Mod Team and Bat Team
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Dec 5, 2017
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Thinking about making another "I'm poor, but want to PC master race" Rig

CPU
- Ryzen 5 2600 $160

SSD
- Evo 860 500GB $90

RAM
- G Aegis 16GB $130

Power Supply
- Thermaltake 750W 80+ Gold modular with RGB $95
or
- PowerSpec 750W 80+ Bronze semi-modular $60

Motherboard
- Asus ROG Strix B350-F Gaming mobo $115

GPU
EVGA Geforce GTX 1060 3GB (Already owned)

What's the thoughts on this build? Like I said, I'm not trying to burn rubber with the Elites, just something moderate that'll hold me for a while as a casual PC gamer. Any thoughts or inputs welcomed!

Looks pretty good! Im not an AMD expert so not sure about the CPU. My other comment is for the PSU go fully modular as it will allow you to more easily transfer the PSU to a future build which might have a different layout and a different case.

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DGrayson

Mod Team and Bat Team
Staff Member
Dec 5, 2017
540
1,102
475
I want to build a new PC but the high memory cost and the GPU price going up each year... Those Nvidia 2000 series prices are insane.

Ya I love building and upgrading PCs but I got a good price on a new 1080 and jumped on it for this very reason, I knew the 2000s were going to be crazy expensive :hidden_ð:
 

Shai-Tan

Member
Mar 16, 2009
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Thinking about making another "I'm poor, but want to PC master race" Rig

CPU
- Ryzen 5 2600 $160

SSD
- Evo 860 500GB $90

RAM
- G Aegis 16GB $130

Power Supply
- Thermaltake 750W 80+ Gold modular with RGB $95
or
- PowerSpec 750W 80+ Bronze semi-modular $60

Motherboard
- Asus ROG Strix B350-F Gaming mobo $115

GPU
EVGA Geforce GTX 1060 3GB (Already owned)

What's the thoughts on this build? Like I said, I'm not trying to burn rubber with the Elites, just something moderate that'll hold me for a while as a casual PC gamer. Any thoughts or inputs welcomed!

Looks pretty good! Im not an AMD expert so not sure about the CPU. My other comment is for the PSU go fully modular as it will allow you to more easily transfer the PSU to a future build which might have a different layout and a different case.

:hidden_ð:
https://www.techspot.com/article/1618-ryzen-2600x-vs-2600/

it's a pretty good choice in that price/performance sweet spot and probably future proof enough for a few years of upcoming games due to weakness in current console CPU. Anything beyond that won't be noticeable in games (unless you're one of those must have 120+fps people) especially if you don't have a high end video card to push frames at lower resolutions
 

CAW

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I built my last PC for Skyrim back in 2011 so she's a bit aged. I've upgraded the video card since that time and it still runs most games from mid-high. Any upgrade recommendations other than the vcard? Money is tight so I'd prob save some $ for an upgrade that would give me as much time as my current build has but still leaning towards budget prices (if possible).

Operating System: Windows 10 Home 64-bit (10.0, Build 17134) (17134.rs4_release.180410-1804)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: System manufacturer
System Model: System Product Name
BIOS: BIOS Date: 02/05/10 19:13:52 Ver: 08.00.10 (type: BIOS)
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2500K CPU @ 3.30GHz (4 CPUs), ~3.3GHz
Memory: 8192MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 8166MB RAM
Card name: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip type: GeForce GTX 1050 Ti
DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
Device Type: Full Device (POST)
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_1C82&SUBSYS_62513842&REV_A1
Device Status: 0180200A [DN_DRIVER_LOADED|DN_STARTED|DN_DISABLEABLE|DN_NT_ENUMERATOR|DN_NT_DRIVER]
Device Problem Code: No Problem
Driver Problem Code: Unknown
Display Memory: 8101 MB
Dedicated Memory: 4018 MB
Shared Memory: 4083 MB