unknownstranger
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I pirated 360 games and MS banned me, what the hell?
- Thread starter Zumblakladla
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Nothing will top Adam Orth personally.
Was that this year? Man that felt like a really long time ago.
-oman tourism
Atraveller
Banned
It was in May, can't be sure.
I actually find it sad, how many thought that it is fine to ban dozens of your legally bought games if you got Oman's freebies. (what OP did is irrelevant)
Shadow Ranger
Member
For threads like these, would it be possible a mod would at least update the OP with cliffs of what happened etc. I read the cliffs above but for convenience please add them to the OP.
Roland Deschain
Member
Awesome thread was awesome.
Damn, that's impressive...I was wondering why this post could get to 40/50 pages
This thread was a hell of a ride, OP starts thread, anti Microsoft poster pile in smelling blood, logical posters pointing out that microsoft have never banned anyone from using the oman trick before, detective GAF gets to works, first comes 1, then 2 add it all up = piracy. Thread reaches its messy climax as the op gets banned, Sony fan boys go quite since even they don't want a pirate and the rest of us are glad to have enjoyed another magic GAF moment.
cyberheater
PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 Xbone PS4 PS4
I think it's decent alternative to suing him for thousands of dollars.
Motorbreath
Member
Fantastic thread... Gotta love The_Monk
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
Call me an asshole, but I still think thr guy should have have access to his legally purchased games. That said, the arguement could be made there is no way to tell the diffference between what he did and did not pay for.
NervousXtian
Thought Emoji Movie was good. Take that as you will.
Every time... every damn time. I love it.
Every time someone makes a thread like this it's always a backfire, always.
Good job GAF, knew OP wasn't being transparent about his transgressions.
Every time someone makes a thread like this it's always a backfire, always.
Good job GAF, knew OP wasn't being transparent about his transgressions.
Nikodemos
Member
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If he legally bought stuff, there should be evidence, either in his mailbox, Microsoft's database, or both.
Really. It's also funny looking at the list of all his posts... It makes you realize he really almost ALWAYS use that in his posts.
But yeah, +1 to the "He should be tagged" movement.
The_Monk is a beast.
Brawly Likes to Brawl
Member
I don't get stuff like this. Why would you create a big bitching thread when you KNOW exactly why you got banned? I swear some people have a fetish for drama.
aything to fuel the console warz
dragonelite
Member
Pretty much this....
Winterfang
Banned
What exactly did Monk do? I only saw a link with a search that didn't worked on mobile Gaf.
Chittagong
Gold Member
Occam's Razor: OP was really fucking dumb and bought into the pirates idea of 'trying out pirated games before buying them legit' and didn't even consider the possibility for them to be the reason for his ban.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
If he is banned, i doubt it woukd make a difference, according to what has been said in this thread. Still, more fool him.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
This has nothing to do with that.
BloodMoney
Banned
good thread title, assume there was some MOD intervention considering the OP is banned.
Yup. Last guy that messed with Monk also got permed, so...
Yeah, he's one of the nicest guys around here. But if you ever make him angry or insult him, that's probably the last thing you'll do on GAF. And rightfully so.
He does have access to the games he purchased. He just doesn't have access to the service that allows him to download them. Is it right? Is it wrong? I'm not going to state my own opinion, but that's what is written in the ToS. When he choose to break them, he knew what the possible consequences were.
chugen
Member
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Well, it all due respect sir, but: You are NOT a fellow GAFfer. You started a Thread in this fine Community and many people tried to help you because no company is perfect and they make their own mistakes. Many good GAFfers in here were trying to help you, finding a solution for your problem but it seems that your problem is that your 360 was banned for Piracy. And that's is very easy to understand.
I almost feel sorry for the kind souls, discussing in here to help you while taking their own time to provide you solutions to your problems only to find out that it was your own fault from the very start. It's always sad because you do not understand what makes GAF such a fine, unique Community. People like what we talk in here, Video Games. We are always trying to give proper opinions on a game, helping each other with a purchase, or even we someone have some sort of Software or Hardware problems.
Piracy is not a problem that GAF like to help you sort out, it's a shame you made so many good people in this thread from this fine Website to lose their own time. It's a shame indeed.
To all the others finding this information, thank you to all, it's things like this that keeps improving this Community, this is indeed the best place to talk about what we like the most: Video games.
Again, and with due all respect:
Zumblakladla I don't believe you are a fellow GAFfer.
The Cowboy
Member
BruiserBear
Banned
My favorite piracy defense is the "try before you buy" defense.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Coming next year matey.
Hahahahaha
nintendoman58
Member
Zumbla seemed to be a common man.
Who started complaining because something got out of hand.
He awoke to find that he had gotten banned.
To which he cried: “It’s not my fault it was just Oman!”
After his posts made everyone go in a tizzy,
Some GAFfers began to find this a bit fishy.
The detectives began searching, and with a bit of lurking,
They deducted, “You fool it was piracy!”
Zumbla immediately set up a defense,
He tried to explain that it all made sense,
“Piracy isn’t stealing! Stop being so demeaning!”
To which the mods then said “Over the fence!”
Who started complaining because something got out of hand.
He awoke to find that he had gotten banned.
To which he cried: “It’s not my fault it was just Oman!”
After his posts made everyone go in a tizzy,
Some GAFfers began to find this a bit fishy.
The detectives began searching, and with a bit of lurking,
They deducted, “You fool it was piracy!”
Zumbla immediately set up a defense,
He tried to explain that it all made sense,
“Piracy isn’t stealing! Stop being so demeaning!”
To which the mods then said “Over the fence!”
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not_so_special
Banned
you forgot the people who supoort any action of their favorite multinational,in this case microsoft
I feel the same way. If you bought something, you should own it, and no future action on anyone's part should be able to reverse that ownership ex post facto. The argument that you have to "access Microsoft's servers" in order to make use of what you own is a red herring -- it's Microsoft that forced their servers into the equation and ideally the owner should be able to make their own backups and never have to deal with Microsoft beyind the original purchase.
As Maxim said in a number of posts, if the seemingly-inevitable digital future is going to happen, we're also going to have to take a hard look at digital property rights and (hopefully) swing in the direction of ownership, EU-style, rather than the unconscionable TOS/EULA-based perpetual rental model.
CrimsonCrescendo
Banned
OP:
Wrong, I do not think you know what a "red herring" actually is. There is nothing misleading here.
You are correct, an active customer should be able to make their own backups, and the OP should have done that in the first place. He is now banned from their network and, as such, locked HIMSELF out of the ability to re-download and backup.
As I proposed earlier in this thread, perhaps a service, sitting separately from their Live service, should be stood up. In this case, the offending customer would have to pay a fee to re-download the games from his library. Why a fee? Why should MS have to pay for the bandwidth for someone no longer allowed on their service?
And, they should make it a single use only service.
Of course it's misleading. People are claiming that reconnecting to Microsoft's servers is somehow an essential part of reacquiring one's purchase when a hard drive is changed, or goes bad, or whatever. This presupposition is what's wrong: there's no reason why digital purchases can't be backed up to the buyer's own media and reinstalled from there in the event of a hard drive failure.
Case in point: I bought SimCity 3000 more than a decade ago. I had the hankering to play it again after reading about the latest SimCity's problems. I wanted to install it onto my newer computer, and all I had to do was find the old CD it came on. And if that CD had gone bad, I also still had the backup I made a decade ago. No connection to Maxis of EA is required, and that would still be true if I'd gotten the game digitally and made a backup.
But people are treating the re-download stage (and thus the "gaming as a service / relationship with Microsoft / you don't own your games" part) as if it's unavoidable part of the process. It's not.
It shouldn't even be a "service". Purchasers should be able to back up everything they buy onto their own media and then never have to have any contact with the distributor or the console maker or any other party ever again. That's true ownership, and there's nothing special about video games to make the desire for true ownership invalid.