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[Salsa]

The post I quoted? That's where you're defending driving on cocaine. If you're going to say hey it's not alcohol! People rely on it to do their jobs!

how is this my opinion on it?

im stating a fact. And at most yes, saying it's not nearly as dangerous as driving drunk and a lot more common in certain occupations

it's a comment on how OP is not aware of these things. Look at the other posts quoting that and mentioning how common it is on the military and jet pilots and such

nothing else

 

[soleil]

No. I just find it silly that the threshold for a crime not to be a crime is that it's nonviolent, as opposed to illegal.

In my interpretation, the person you quoted was not arguing that it's not a crime. He/she was arguing that society's current approach toward drug use to outlaw it and send people to prison isn't helping. And since it's a nonviolent act, there is a lack of urgency in removing the drug user from society.

 

[-MD-]

Leave him alone.

 

[PanicFreak]

The post I quoted? That's where you're defending driving on cocaine. If you're going to say hey it's not alcohol! People rely on it to do their jobs! It doesn't matter if you follow it up with a half hearted "but I guess you shouldn't do it". I'm not demonizing drugs, I'm just weirded out how okay you are with someone doing coke in their not office, and potentially driving on it because well, truckers do it.

Driving that train, high on cocaine,
Casey Jones you better, watch your speed.
Trouble ahead, trouble behind,
And you know that notion just crossed my mind.

 

[Ivan Amiibo]

No. I just find it silly that the threshold for a crime not to be a crime is that it's nonviolent, as opposed to illegal.

people think about the issue in a more complex manner than that, but if you have to be technically correct, then congrats.

 

[Ketkat]

And?

Oh yeah, cocaine GAF is here.

Seriously, the number of people defending cocaine in this thread is pretty astounding

 

[Salsa]

oh fuck OP you let him go didnt you

 

[Fenderputty]

Oh, that's possible.

That means he drove here in a heavy duty truck while high on cocaine.



.

It seems like you have no clue what cocaine actually does. It's not a physical impairment like getting drunk. Truck drivers are very common addicts as they have to drive long distances while staying awake

 

[Salsa]

It seems like you have no clue what cocaine actually does. It's not a physical impairment. Truck drivers are very common addicts as they have to drive long distances while staying awake

BRO YOU MUST LOVE COCAINE STOP DEFENDIN

 

[DoktorEvil]

people think about the issue in a more complex manner than that, but if you have to be technically correct, then congrats.

Please wax some poetic on the complexity of drug issues that I haven't heard from college debate class.

Lemme know when a politician runs on a platform of full legalization of Schedule 1 drugs in the U.S. I'll vote for him/her.

Otherwise, nonviolent or violent, possession of cocaine is still illegal. Why is there a discussion on this and why are people ITT ambivalent about DUIs when it's drugs and not alcohol? It's still something that can impair a driver.

 

[Xiraiya]

He's rubbing his nose, eyes look dilated, he's unsteady, speaking fast, and is all jittery and shit.
He also has a rep as a drug user.
That sound like coke?

Who knows, let him ruin his own life. I don't mean to sound dismissive, it's just what are you really going to do about it even if he was on coke?

 

[Ketkat]

It seems like you have no clue what cocaine actually does. It's not a physical impairment like getting drunk. Truck drivers are very common addicts as they have to drive long distances while staying awake

"The short-term physiological effects of cocaine use include constricted blood vessels; dilated pupils; and increased body temperature, heart rate, and blood pressure. Large amounts of cocaine may intensify the user's high but can also lead to bizarre, erratic, and violent behavior. Some cocaine users report feelings of restlessness, irritability, anxiety, panic, and paranoia. Users may also experience tremors, vertigo, and muscle twitches."

I forgot that cocaine has no negative effects whatsoever, good thing you guys are here to defend it.

 

[soleil]

Please wax some poetic on the complexity of drug issued that I haven't heard from college debate class.

Lemme know when a politician runs on a platform of full legalization of Schedule 1 drugs in the U.S.

Otherwise, nonviolent or violent, possession of cocaine is still illegal. Why is there a discussion on this and why are people ITT ambivalent about DUIs when it's drugs and not alcohol? It's still something that can impair a driver.

Two posts up from your post, dude.

 

[DarkFlow]

Are you Joaquin Phoenix? Is this Buffalo Soldiers?

Hah, this made me laugh.

 

[DoktorEvil]

Two posts up from your post, dude.

"The short-term physiological effects of cocaine use include constricted blood vessels; dilated pupils; and increased body temperature, heart rate, and blood pressure. Large amounts of cocaine may intensify the user's high but can also lead to bizarre, erratic, and violent behavior. Some cocaine users report feelings of restlessness, irritability, anxiety, panic, and paranoia. Users may also experience tremors, vertigo, and muscle twitches."

I forgot that cocaine has no negative effects whatsoever, good thing you guys are here to defend it.

.

 

[RangerX]

Seriously, the number of people defending cocaine in this thread is pretty astounding

Nah just people with some life experience telling the OP not to get too bent out of shape over the situation if the dude isn't causing trouble. Despite what you've heard cocaine doesn't actually make people aggressive who weren't that way inclined already. If he doesn't want him on the premises tell him to leave, end of.

 

[dekline]

So office gossip and your drug expertise = this guy doing coke.

I know a guy that you would swear is coked out 24/7.

He's just a really happy dude, loves talking with people and has a lot of energy. He never does drugs, never drinks, doesn't smoke. He's also a teacher. I thought he was on something when I first met him, but once I got to know him and talk with his friends it turns out that's just how he is.

Unless you administered a drug test, you really can't be sure.

So yeah, who cares.

 

[Salsa]

"The short-term physiological effects of cocaine use include constricted blood vessels; dilated pupils; and increased body temperature, heart rate, and blood pressure. Large amounts of cocaine may intensify the user's high but can also lead to bizarre, erratic, and violent behavior. Some cocaine users report feelings of restlessness, irritability, anxiety, panic, and paranoia. Users may also experience tremors, vertigo, and muscle twitches."

I forgot that cocaine has no negative effects whatsoever, good thing you guys are here to defend it.

oh shit

"Within 45 minutes of gulping down a single 20-ounce glass of soda, caffeine from the drink is fully absorbed, and as a result your pupils dilate and blood pressure rises. The body produces more dopamine, which stimulates the pleasure centers of the brain

- Teens who drink more soda get into more fights and act more aggressively.

- Excess sugar may affect the brain and lead to violent acts.

- Soda drinking may be a marker for poor nutrition, which can influence mood and behavior."



edit: okay I feel like I need to clarify that im messing with you cause some people here are pretty weirdly mad

people are merely commenting on the fact that treating taking cocaine and driving is different than being drunk and driving

are both fucked up and better and rationally sound to not do them? you bet. But they are also not the same.

 

[DarkFlow]

oh shit

"Within 45 minutes of gulping down a single 20-ounce glass of soda, caffeine from the drink is fully absorbed, and as a result your pupils dilate and blood pressure rises. The body produces more dopamine, which stimulates the pleasure centers of the brain

- Teens who drink more soda get into more fights and act more aggressively.

- Excess sugar may affect the brain and lead to violent acts.

- Soda drinking may be a marker for poor nutrition, which can influence mood and behavior."

God damn soda company's!

 

[Ryaaan14]

NotTheGuyYouKill I never pictured u as the type of person to bring down someone else who embraces the yolo life a little

 

[Zombine]

Sounds like a guy who needs to be punished.

 

[Illithid Dude]

all i'm getting from this thread is that salsashark seems like a great guy to do coke with

 

[thefit]

Chill out gaf. Non of you would be so uptight if you just partied a little every once in a while. Narcs.

 

[soleil]

"The short-term physiological effects of cocaine use include constricted blood vessels; dilated pupils; and increased body temperature, heart rate, and blood pressure. Large amounts of cocaine may intensify the user's high but can also lead to bizarre, erratic, and violent behavior. Some cocaine users report feelings of restlessness, irritability, anxiety, panic, and paranoia. Users may also experience tremors, vertigo, and muscle twitches."

I forgot that cocaine has no negative effects whatsoever, good thing you guys are here to defend it.

.

So I take it you guys think people who drink caffeine shouldn't drive either?

And it's pretty odd how DoktorEvil's argument went from "Illegal and no large movement to change that" to quoting someone else's post that has a lot of the same side effects as caffeine. Talk about throwing up arguments and seeing what sticks. That's when you know you're dealing with someone who has the conclusion decided and is looking for the justification.

 

[DarkFlow]

Chill out gaf. Non of you would be so uptight if you just partied a little every once in a while. Narcs.

That would mean having to interact with people in real life.

 

[Two Words]

Ask him if he likes taking coke. If he gets super offended and you feel like you gotta back off, just say you meant the drink.

 

[Salsa]

all i'm getting from this thread is that salsashark seems like a great guy to do coke with

lemme just grab my car for the drive back

 

[lethial]

That would mean having to interact with people in real life.

Which in itself would be a whole new thread.

 

[Ivan Amiibo]

Please wax some poetic on the complexity of drug issues that I haven't heard from college debate class.

Lemme know when a politician runs on a platform of full legalization of Schedule 1 drugs in the U.S. I'll vote for him/her.

Otherwise, nonviolent or violent, possession of cocaine is still illegal. Why is there a discussion on this and why are people ITT ambivalent about DUIs when it's drugs and not alcohol? It's still something that can impair a driver.

Did your college debate class also teach you to meet potential arguments with head-on doucheyness or did you just not work on the art of conversation since you were a teen

 

[thefit]

That would mean having to interact with people in real life.

Wow. I'm not explaining this one.

 

[Ketkat]

So I take it you guys think people who drink caffeine shouldn't drive either?

I suppose if you just want to look at the increased blood pressure and pupils dilated, I could see how you would think caffeine would be similar. But, if you look at the rest of the effects, increased body temperature, heart rate, Large amounts of cocaine may intensify the user's high but can also lead to bizarre, erratic, and violent behavior. Some cocaine users report feelings of restlessness, irritability, anxiety, panic, and paranoia. Users may also experience tremors, vertigo, and muscle twitches.

You could see how someone who is driving might not want to have muscle twitches, or panic, or paranoia. Why are you guys defending a guy driving while on cocaine is what I don't get. Just because you or someone you know has done it and nothing happened doesn't mean that its generally a safe thing to do. I know there are people who drink and drive and never do anything wrong while doing it. Its still an incredibly stupid and irresponsible move.

 

[Illithid Dude]

tell him if he's gonna do coke in your bathroom then he's gotta pay the tax

and then do coke with him

 

[DarkFlow]

You could see how someone who is driving might not want to have muscle twitches, or panic, or paranoia.

You should go for a car ride with my GF, I guarantee you'll feel both while sober.

 

[Bacon]

You should tattle on him Op. He is a criminal who needs to be removed from society

 

[soleil]

I suppose if you just want to look at the increased blood pressure and pupils dilated, I could see how you would think caffeine would be similar. But, if you look at the rest of the effects, increased body temperature, heart rate, Large amounts of cocaine may intensify the user's high but can also lead to bizarre, erratic, and violent behavior. Some cocaine users report feelings of restlessness, irritability, anxiety, panic, and paranoia. Users may also experience tremors, vertigo, and muscle twitches.

You could see how someone who is driving might not want to have muscle twitches, or panic, or paranoia. Why are you guys defending a guy driving while on cocaine is what I don't get. Just because you or someone you know has done it and nothing happened doesn't mean that its generally a safe thing to do. I know there are people who drink and drive and never do anything wrong while doing it. Its still an incredibly stupid and irresponsible move.

If you don't think caffeine can lead to increased body temp, heart rate, paranoia, etc, then you don't know a lot of caffeine drinkers.

 

[Salsa]

Why are you guys defending a guy driving while on cocaine is what I don't get.

Because literally no one here is doing that

In actuality we are laughing at some of the ridiculous over-sheltered responses.

You know, like assuming people are defending a guy driving on cocaine when the thread is about suspecting some random guy doing a bump of coke in a bathroom.

 

[Firehead]

I suppose if you just want to look at the increased blood pressure and pupils dilated, I could see how you would think caffeine would be similar. But, if you look at the rest of the effects, increased body temperature, heart rate, Large amounts of cocaine may intensify the user's high but can also lead to bizarre, erratic, and violent behavior. Some cocaine users report feelings of restlessness, irritability, anxiety, panic, and paranoia. Users may also experience tremors, vertigo, and muscle twitches.

You could see how someone who is driving might not want to have muscle twitches, or panic, or paranoia. Why are you guys defending a guy driving while on cocaine is what I don't get. Just because you or someone you know has done it and nothing happened doesn't mean that its generally a safe thing to do. I know there are people who drink and drive and never do anything wrong while doing it. Its still an incredibly stupid and irresponsible move.

Most stimulants do all that. Including caffeine.

 

[DoktorEvil]

Did your college debate class also teach you to meet potential arguments with head-on doucheyness or did you just not work on the art of conversation since you were a teen

What debate? Cocaine has been criminalized by the UN in multiple countries since 1961. There is no debate about this.

I'm not being a prude about it either, drugs do deserve a decriminalization schedule and to be controlled, taxed, and regulated as a commodity, but that's not the discussion at hand.

 

[Fenderputty]

.

Where does that say it affects motor skills and reaction times?

I don't think people should be driving while intoxicated. The person I quoted clearly thought it affected you in ways similar to alcohol. Half the reason cocaine is as dangerous as it is, is because it's so easy to function in everyday life.

 

[Ketkat]

Because literally no one here is doing that

In actuality we are laughing at some of the ridiculous over-sheltered responses.

You know, like assuming people are defending a guy driving on cocaine when the thread is about suspecting some random guy doing a bump of coke in a bathroom.

The OP in question was curious if the guy was going to be good for the credit since the guy had a credit line in the place he works. Everyone on the first page was just saying "Who cares? "What are you, a narc?" Then someone brought up that the guy had to drive to the place, and if he wasn't high before he got to an office bathroom that he doesn't even work at, the guy was high on his way home. So, the conversation came about him driving and being high on cocaine a little while ago actually.

 

[Illithid Dude]

generally, if you're bumping coke in some rando bathroom in the afternoon, you've been doing it the entire day

Spoiler

not that i would know

 

[soleil]

Because literally no one here is doing that

In actuality we are laughing at some of the ridiculous over-sheltered responses.

You know, like assuming people are defending a guy driving on cocaine when the thread is about suspecting some random guy doing a bump of coke in a bathroom.

That's definitely how these arguments are coming across. Looking up some resource to look at the effects as opposed to going off of life experience.

 

[Ketkat]

Most stimulants do all that. Including caffeine.

So you think there's no difference in the effects from caffeine and cocaine? Not even in the dosages required in each to reach those more extreme side effects?

 

[Salsa]

The OP in question was curious if the guy was going to be good for the credit since the guy had a credit line in the place he works. Everyone on the first page was just saying "Who cares? "What are you, a narc?" Then someone brought up that the guy had to drive to the place, and if he wasn't high before he got to an office bathroom that he doesn't even work at, the guy was high on his way home. So, the conversation came about him driving and being high on cocaine a little while ago actually.

the conversation is about OP doing something cause this thread supposedly has a purpose

it continues to be that

so, the dude maybe was driving. we're not even sure if he did coke in the bathroom

so, ok. does he call the police about suspecting him doing a bump of coke on his bathroom cause he allegedly drives a car?

that's what you think he should do?

 

[Fenderputty]

What was the purpose of this thread?

 

[Ketkat]

That's definitely how these arguments are coming across. Looking up some resource to look at the effects as opposed to going off of life experience.

That's simply because using anecdotal evidence really isn't the best way to deal with something like drugs. Just because you've had a safe and great time with cocaine doesn't mean that its a safe drug.

the conversation is about OP doing something cause this thread supposedly has a purpose

it continues to be that

so, the dude maybe was driving. we're not even sure if he did coke in the bathroom

so, ok. does he call the police about suspecting him doing a bump of coke on his bathroom cause he allegedly drives a car?

that's what you think he should do?

Let's say a guy came into your work, went to your bathroom and got absolutely hammered. (We have no idea how much cocaine the guy did even if he did do some.) The guy comes stumbling out of the bathroom, reeks of booze, and you know he's drunk. Let's just say for this situation you know 100%. Are you going to let him walk out the door and get back in his car so he can drive home?

 

[thefit]

What was the purpose of this thread?

To phish out cool gaf from lame gaf.

 

[Salsa]

Let's say a guy came into your work, went to your bathroom and got absolutely hammered. (We have no idea how much cocaine the guy did even if he did do some.) The guy comes stumbling out of the bathroom, reeks of booze, and you know he's drunk. Let's just say for this situation you know 100%. Are you going to let him walk out the door and get back in his car so he can drive home?

hell no

in other news that has about 0 relation to what happened here

 

[Fenderputty]

So you think there's no difference in the effects from caffeine and cocaine? Not even in the dosages required in each to reach those more extreme side effects?

You're speaking from a position of ignorance and it's obvious to anyone who isn't. We called coke the reset button because we could be falling over piss drunk and after two bumps walk straight and dance without falling on the person next to us.

 

[Strangelove77]

Cocaine, huh?
Blow.
Yayo.
Powder.
Snow.
Charlie.
Nose candy.
Booger sugar.
Coca.

Yeeeeeeeeah.

Seriously though, don't do cocaine.