soundscream
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I know with law a good amount of weight is put into where you went to school/bar exam.
And I would also assume a similar evaluation process occurs in the medical field.
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I know with law a good amount of weight is put into where you went to school/bar exam.
And I would also assume a similar evaluation process occurs in the medical field.
RustyNails
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Four IS excessive. And pls, it's not the norm. Even my recruiter said it was little...different. I have 3 years experience in my field and the position I was applying was in no way a senior position. Here's how the interview process was done:
1. recruiter contacts me, sets up 1st phone interview with technical manager. We talk for an hour.
2. Tech manager likes what he hears, and asks for face to face interview with HR manager+himself. Interview takes 2 hours.
3. Long period of no response, then HR manager wants me to come for a 3rd interview, with Tech manager again and his boss, the program manager. 2 more hours. HR said they will decide on my application. No response.
4. Dead silence. Two weeks+ go by without any info from recruiter or HR or managers. Then HR emails recruiter for another face to face, this time with program manager's boss.
This is when I break down. For those of you saying I did something that doesn't make sense, I didn't..if you were in my shoes you would understand. The emotional high turns into a 'meh' low. You completely lose your motivation. Who the fuck knows, maybe they had 5th interview planned.
I'm probably on the verge of making a very similar mistake. A friend of mine contacted me about a job in his company. I went through nearly 5 hours of interviews for this job and was initially very excited. Then nothing. And not just the typical companies are slow nothing. But like 6 months of nothing. Finally he told me they got rid of that opening but they had another opening and I was like "Yeah whatever. I'm not going through all that again." That was about 3 months ago. Tonight he called me with someone else from the team that I knew and they were like "Dude, you GOT to take this job. Let's make it happen!!" I told him I'd do dinner with them in a few weeks and we can discuss it but really my hearts sorta out of it. To me a company that can't get hiring right isn't likely to get much else right either because right out of the gate they're excluding good people because anyone that's any good either 1) Already has a job. or 2) Has more than a single job prospect and when one starts dragging they'll go with the next. You probably did the right thing. Trust your gut in things like this.
RustyNails
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That is 100% correct. Ronito, you have my sword.
RustyNails
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I'm sorry, but my 4 reference backround check report came through with flying colors. My recruiter conducted it with an external 3rd party. Me and my recruiter were prompt as fuck as we could be.
Rocket Punch
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Here's what you do. Send an follow up email explaining something important came up (ill parents, bad health news for someone in the family,etc.. keep it general)and say that you were in no position to go to an interview in such a state. Profusely apologize that you were unable to attend due to the circumstances but - this is important - don't ask for a do over.
Keep your email detached but professional and say you regret not attending and that you appreciate their time and consideration and apologize again.
If you are lucky, they might buy it and if they still don't have their man they may ask you to come by again. Just don't hold your breath. Either way good luck.
Keep your email detached but professional and say you regret not attending and that you appreciate their time and consideration and apologize again.
If you are lucky, they might buy it and if they still don't have their man they may ask you to come by again. Just don't hold your breath. Either way good luck.
Eppy Thatcher
God's had his chance.
I meant that if the job he was applying for was a low level shitty job where he wouldn't even hit 50-60 a year then sure. Who gives a shit if you blow it off. Can't really make a life off anything lower than that.
If it was a stellar opportunity and he was looking at a 100k+ position then ... well. Fuck me i guess... wish I was in a position to casually turn down an offer like that.
Devil Theory
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You didn't understand my post. I was making the point that writing off a company as unworthy of your time due to changes in their scheduling or possible delays is unwise, due to the nature of larger companies' hiring processes, and the number of applicants they have. In regards to them expressing to you that they had intended to only have three interviews, but ended up needing four, would indicate to me an issue with (most likely) an earlier candidate. In which case, you still had a very solid opportunity.
Rocket Punch
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The truth of the matter is OP didn't want it bad enough. He decided to take a stand when he had nothing to gain from it. He didn't tell off anyone and the company is not gonna "learn their lesson". The job will probably go to someone who literally wanted it more than he did. There are winners and losers and then there are those who choose not to play. You made your choice OP, live with it.
adamsappel
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I think the OP's reaction was fine. Too many people are willing to put up with anything and everything just for a high salary.
However, some people take a high salary for granted. SADT, there are many GAFers who think $50K is a LOT of money. Most interns don't even get paid.
However, some people take a high salary for granted. SADT, there are many GAFers who think $50K is a LOT of money. Most interns don't even get paid.
I'm with this post. Sounds like you totally made the call you wanted to make.
I went through a similar tortured months long hiring process somewhat recently only to not get it. I made some mistakes, they didn't communicate well, did leave a bad taste in my mouth. In the end I reapplied for a much better job at the same place. Must have been the same day that I did that I received an offer for another job, a much more significant job that is exactly in my field. And it was one of those jobs that you can't apply for, that only come as an offer from the clouds.
As in looking for an apartment: going through the hiring process is a great time to interview them on how well they're doing the hiring. If you think the way they're doing it is not your style it will probably manifest in some way to great annoyance later.
As in looking for an apartment: going through the hiring process is a great time to interview them on how well they're doing the hiring. If you think the way they're doing it is not your style it will probably manifest in some way to great annoyance later.
I did five interviews for my current job. A screener over the phone, a phone interview, and then flew out for three one-hour back to back interviews.
Been at the company 10 years now. It was rough but worth it; I work with great people.
Not defending the surprise 4th interview - that was odd - but I don't see anything wrong with a rigorous interview process, especially for a well paying job. (FWIW, I got stock options.)
Bboy AJ
My dog was murdered by a 3.5mm audio port and I will not rest until the standard is dead
Nice work, OP. Too many people get bitched around during the hiring process. If that was your only option, OK, understandable. But if you're a real talent, you have offers all over the place. A company that acts like that in the initial stages, where everyone follows the "first impressions" mantra, is not worth it, IMO.
A lot of interviews is fine. But the surprise fourth interview is not so great. And the lack of communication. Perhaps you weren't their first choice and that explains the slowness. But that doesn't mean you should take it lying down, if you feel slighted.
Again, the above only applies if you're a talent. If you're clinging to this one job offer, prepare to eat shit and smile.
A lot of interviews is fine. But the surprise fourth interview is not so great. And the lack of communication. Perhaps you weren't their first choice and that explains the slowness. But that doesn't mean you should take it lying down, if you feel slighted.
Again, the above only applies if you're a talent. If you're clinging to this one job offer, prepare to eat shit and smile.
saltinekracka
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I can barely muster up the will for one interview, but 4 rounds?? Good riddance. I hope their terrible hiring process loses them lots of money and they correct it.
Three rounds is pretty standard. So I'm surprised that the thought of a single additional round was enough to make you want to throw this opportunity out the window.
It may well have been just a formality - i.e. just sit down and have a chat with the big dog so he can make sure you're not a psychopath and he can give you the tick of approval.
I agree with what others have said. Make up some terrible excuse and go grovelling back to them if you really want this job. You don't really have a lot to lose.
It may well have been just a formality - i.e. just sit down and have a chat with the big dog so he can make sure you're not a psychopath and he can give you the tick of approval.
I agree with what others have said. Make up some terrible excuse and go grovelling back to them if you really want this job. You don't really have a lot to lose.
OP and ronito, just remember that in life, options are key. By not showing up to the interview this morning, OP didn't give himself options. Instead of going to the interview, getting the job then weighing the pros and cons of taking the job, you left yourself with only one path to follow. This is probably what lead you to make this thread, the uncertainty of "what may have been" if you actually went to the interview. It's really not too big a deal... you already have a job and as others have said, you went with your gut (which is never a bad thing to do) and probably would have made the same choice even if you did get the job offer.
Just take it as a lesson for next time really. Ronito, at least go to dinner and find out what's on the "table" so to speak before you choose to accept or deny. You can't look too far into things... you don't know what the deal is with the hiring process for these companies as another poster commented. (PS any more confessions recently? LOVE those threads)
Just take it as a lesson for next time really. Ronito, at least go to dinner and find out what's on the "table" so to speak before you choose to accept or deny. You can't look too far into things... you don't know what the deal is with the hiring process for these companies as another poster commented. (PS any more confessions recently? LOVE those threads)
This. OP had nothing to gain and everything to lose by refusing to interview. He didn't feel any better by not going and created more "what if" situation. The interview could take a few hours and then OP could have decide not to take it.
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
pretty much.
but it didn't seem like you were up on the idea of actually working for them...
Really I thought this was some common bullshit that most companies due. I'm just trying to work at a damn call center and it seems not that different. First I had to fill out the company personality assessment test when just submitting my resume to a job post, a phone call followed wanting to ask more questions, then had to come in to their office for more assessments which took almost two hours long, then had another phone interview that was 45 minutes, then today I had my "last interview" which was in person and an hour long. All that for a damn $12 hourly job at a stupid call center? Give me a break, it's so damn discouraging when you are trying to apply for multiple jobs. After the last interview I was only told they would get back to me in about a week or so, pretty damn vague.
Melchiah
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I agree. It's just a job, there are more important things in life.
I quitted a job where I was juggled around three units, eventhough I was promised to be placed at one of them. Around-the-clock days, nightsweats, stress, not worth it.
Majima Everywhere System
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You won't like working if you can't get your ass in gear to go on an interview.
Edit: oh you have a job. Well then who cares, you two-job
Edit 2: even if you don't want to work there, get the offer and use it with your current job to see if you can get a salary bump to stay.
Edit: oh you have a job. Well then who cares, you two-job
Edit 2: even if you don't want to work there, get the offer and use it with your current job to see if you can get a salary bump to stay.
industrian
will gently cradle you as time slowly ticks away.
It's moments like these that I think: What would George Costanza do?
A good start.
Schattenjäger;48684054 said:
A good start.
Dynamite Shikoku
Congratulations, you really deserve it!
If you weren't feeling it, you did the right thing.
If you didn't feel like it was for you and tired of it then no worries. You're going to be much happier tomorrow morning.
I on the other hand went through a similar process and did 4 face to face interviews totalling about 6 hours. BUT I really wanted to job and pushed hard for it
I on the other hand went through a similar process and did 4 face to face interviews totalling about 6 hours. BUT I really wanted to job and pushed hard for it
teruterubozu
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It took my wife 4-5 interviews over 2 months to get her job - massive corporation. Lots of silence and discomfort, but looking back, it was the best move she ever made. Now she gets job offers left & right because companies know she can handle a rigorous hiring process. You should have stuck it out - if you hated it, you could have easily quit later.
Rocket Scientist
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The sad thing is you'll have to go through all of this again now. Sorry OP =(
Risible
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Huge corporations have lengthy interview processes. I thought this was common knowledge. Big salaries means lots of competition and they can afford to be picky. And surprise, yes, being part of a large corporation means being a small cog in a big machine.
Not going through with the interview is madness in this day and age. I think the OP is nuts.
Not going through with the interview is madness in this day and age. I think the OP is nuts.
Great move. Don't regret it. If they start with this kind of abuse before you even start, who knows what kind of bullet you dodged.
Having self respect and standing for yourself is the first thing they want you to lose when you join that kind of corporation. Never forget that, and with that kind of state of mind, you'll find your dream job soon enough. You're making smart decisions.
Having self respect and standing for yourself is the first thing they want you to lose when you join that kind of corporation. Never forget that, and with that kind of state of mind, you'll find your dream job soon enough. You're making smart decisions.
Napoleonthechimp
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You had to decline the interview... because of family issues that - after discussing it with them - have since changed.
Family trumps career (don't play this card too often).
The time period is nothing, 2 months is about as short of time as I've ever gone through the process. But the number of interviews, unless it is for a high level job is maybe above average, but not out of the normal range.
Hell, I'm still waiting to hear back on a job, I applied for in November, I had two phone interviews in December, flew out to do an all day in person interview 3 weeks ago, and expect to hear something in the next week. Oh, yeah, I've been out of a job since September.
Hell, I'm still waiting to hear back on a job, I applied for in November, I had two phone interviews in December, flew out to do an all day in person interview 3 weeks ago, and expect to hear something in the next week. Oh, yeah, I've been out of a job since September.
Back to back interviews in one day isn't exactly the same thing. It's one trip and none of the worry and doubt during a long silent wait just to see if you made it to the next interview. Also none of the inconvenience of having to put your life on hold and make travel arrangements 3 separate times.
My current job is with a large corporation as well.
Entire process took 3 weeks
1. HR Manager called me with some questions.
2. One week later, spoke to direct manager over the phone, answered some technical questions and such.
3. One week later, face to face interview with direct manager, and two project leaders.
4. 5 days later. Offer letter.
However i have seen the very same place take about 2 months to bring someone onboard for a finance position on 14th floor.
Entire process took 3 weeks
1. HR Manager called me with some questions.
2. One week later, spoke to direct manager over the phone, answered some technical questions and such.
3. One week later, face to face interview with direct manager, and two project leaders.
4. 5 days later. Offer letter.
However i have seen the very same place take about 2 months to bring someone onboard for a finance position on 14th floor.
Byakuya769
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Don't want to see a lot of you raging against corporations anymore. Some of you sound like you'd let them spit in your mouth for an offer. If you're struggling to find something, I understand - but OP already has a job.
peanutbutterlatte
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If you've got selected for that kind of job, you'll be selected for it again. You clearly know your stuff else they wouldn't have asked you back.
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