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i think legalizing hookers would make men happier

Our society tries so hard to unrepress sexual desire, and yet there are studies that show that people are actually having less sex than in the past.

This is because women are taught by society that it is OK to use sex as a currency to reward men with.

The thought of a woman just submitting to her husband and having sex with him on demand is outright scandalous.

It is even taboo to hold the opinion that if you are in a committed relationship sometimes you have to make your partner happy by doing things you aren't in the mood for for their happiness.

Would you like, Hong Kong girl, Mainland girl, Thailand girl or western girl sir?

They are almost all Mexican there. :cool:
 
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I propose instead keeping it illegal and increasing the penalty for prostitution, pimping, and adultery to death by firing squad.

Also, porn should be outlawed. Being involved in the commercial scale production of pornography should also be punished with death. Smaller scale things, of course, would not be punished by death. For example, a man who makes a video with his wife and fails to properly keep it private should be fined heavily or jailed. Mere consumption of pornography would just be punished with fines. Government regulation of ISPs would be the main way to crack down on this scum.

I hate so much the claim in this thread that somehow legal prostitution would make us happier. We already live in a degenerate society, how happy are we? Pornography and prostitution are widely available now. Does that make us happy? If you think that sex with some disease ridden whore who has fucked 10000 other guys is going to fulfill you, what the fuck is wrong with you? You need help.
This is what happens when your parents never let you have hoho for breakfast and gives you hickenloopers instead.
 
This thread shows how much of an uphill battle it is to actually fix things. Porn, and Hollywood has broken man. They have been turned into weak, dopamine fiends.
 
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My take, is that prostitution will always be a thing. So may as well legalize it and regulate it for the safety of everyone involved.
 
My take, is that prostitution will always be a thing. So may as well legalize it and regulate it for the safety of everyone involved.
It might always be a thing, but you can severely minimize the scale. It always comes down to will and power. appaws appaws talked about measures to cut down on it. Personally, I wouldn't mind more immediate and public punishments.
 
There are the incels, sure, but their failure is no where near enough to counterbalance the overwhelmong majority of guys being far happier with how easy and commitment free getting sex is for most guys these days, or how bloody miserable it's making women.

Do you have stats on that?
Studies that I have read paint a picture where:

About 20% of men have all the sex
Women are far more picky with sex partners than men so there are far more male incels than female incels
 
Single men. Yeah sure. Also Think of the taxes the governments could get from this ?

married men it would make life a lot worse hahahahah

How so?

A guy doesn't have to go out and sneak around. He could just get a hooker and that would be that. No fear of getting busted by the police, if its legal it would mean restrictions so less likely to catch something. And a hooker wont ever say shit to anyone but a side girl that finds out she is a side girl? Wooooo boy she will bury your ass if she can. You dont have to worry about anything with a hooker because they know what you're with them for.
 
I could see family men who have sex less life having problems but i get laid all the time from wife and no need for strange.
 
My data suggest that it makes the hamster men more happy. It also makes the hamster women more happy too.


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The secret is to be good enough so that they actually do enjoy it 👌👈
 
If it gets legalized I'm opening a rock and roll themed brothel called Sold Our Holes for Rock n Roll
 
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If only there was some sort of device that one could wear that would help someone not catch an STD. :pie_thinking:

Which many people don't use and the device you speak of doesn't always work and is known to fail. It is why we have many of the issues we face in society today. I don't see how there's any benefit to legalizing prostitution in 2020 without resolving the disease issue first.
 
Pretty sure it's not legal in Canada.
No it's not but there is massage parlors and a ton of websites to find escorts and no one seems to care and let this happen. It's as easy as going on a website (wont share it here though) and looking at the ads until you find a girl that meets your needs. Though you have to be cautious, lots of fake ads in there.
 
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No it's not but there is massage parlors and a ton of websites to find escorts and no one seems to care and let this happen. It's as easy as going on a website (wont share it here though) and looking at the ads until you find a girl that meets your needs. Though you have to be cautious, lots of fake ads in there.

Yeah but the government has gone after Craigslist and Backpage, and they go after whatever gets big. They shouldn't do that just to bust sick retards who target children. To me tinder and swinging sites are enough, you really don't need escorts.
 
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Yeah but the government has gone after Craigslist and Backpage, and they go after whatever gets big. They shouldn't do that just to bust sick retards who target children. To me tinder and swinging sites are enough, you really don't need escorts.
Craiglist was never big here in Quebec, canada. The government never really went after any websites here, there's a really big one with hundreds of escorts ads every minute, it would be really easy to go after this if they even cared.
 
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According to the United Nations, the 10 happiest countries in 2019 are:
  • Finland.
  • Denmark.
  • Norway.
  • Iceland.
  • The Netherlands.
  • Switzerland.
  • Sweden.
  • New Zealand.
now i don't know if hookers are legal in these countries, but it's time 2 research that shit because it could really be a fucken

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I lived in New Zealand for a bit. There is no way those are even close to the happiest people alive. I get according to the criteria of whoever makes these lists they must be... but they are not. So many drug addicts, alcoholics and people wasting their lives, farmers with rage problems...

Now take somewhere like Vietnam. The poor there are wretched, as bad as the people in the wealthy countries who intentionally make themselves wretched. But most people hang around with friends and family all day, listening to peaceful songs and talking about whatever comes to mind. These people are happier, though I do not envy their condition.
 
This thread shows how much of an uphill battle it is to actually fix things. Porn, and Hollywood has broken man. They have been turned into weak, dopamine fiends.
oh fuck off with this. The idea that porn is why we have cultural issues is moronic, and shows that for all their talk and bluster, conservatives don't have any real solutions. Their instinct is to use the state to ban things.

We are currently going through a time where young people having sex are at record lows. This is despite our apparently sex focused society.

They can't criticize the economic factors that led to this, so they have to find a easy scape goat, which happens to be porn.
 
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It may be like that if you are in your 20s, but women near my age (late 30s) either are looking to settle down or have have baggage from previous relationships that I don't want to deal with. I'm not gonna pick up some other guy's save game.

It's like buying a car. I buy new so I get the options I want. When buying used you are stuck with whatever the dealer has.
Sometimes you get an amazing car well below market value.
 
Yep.



I don't know what this means, but it just sounds funny.

As a Christian, you KNOW that murder is against God's law. Advocating for such is antithetical to the teachings of Jesus Christ. We are supposed to separate ourselves from involvement in the world (politics, military, law enforcement, etc aka this system of things)... Not revel in it's debauchery, which includes murder fantasies like what you posted.
 
oh fuck off with this. The idea that porn is why we have cultural issues is moronic, and shows that for all their talk and bluster, conservatives don't have any real solutions. Their instinct is to use the state to ban things.

We are currently going through a time where young people having sex are at record lows. This is despite our apparently sex focused society.

They can't criticize the economic factors that led to this, so they have to find a easy scape goat, which happens to be porn.
First, I'm not a conservative. Porn is a huge factor in what YOU brought up all on your own. It's not just porn. Economics is another factor, and feminism is a big part of that economic factor. Studies have shown how addicting porn is, and how it rewires the brain. Obviously there is even more to it than what's going to be in a post.
 
Studies have shown how addicting porn is, and how it rewires the brain.
At least for the first generation thats had an infinity of free uncensored porn piped into their homes through the internet their entire lives. Back in the day you had to work for that tenth generation VHS copy of dodgy German porn or hope the porn bunny paid a visit.
 
It's not just porn. Economics is another factor, and feminism is a big part of that economic factor. Studies have shown how addicting porn is, and how it rewires the brain.

I want to add something to this, perhaps to broaden the concept of porn.

The most important thing in porn is the money shot, the perfect image that makes the whole world disappear. Almost everything we consume has become a kind of money shot. McDonald's is food porn, Lamborgini is car porn. The principle is bigger than that, though. Every single unique taste fetish that a person can have has a kind of porn specifically for it. Think of games: if you are poor, you can play an infinite amount of ftp games. If you have some money, you can buy anything in increasingly specific genres. If you are richer, you can buy retro games. If you are rich, the sky is the limit with how nice a pc you can get; or you can buy retro arcade unit. You could do this with cars, food, bicycles, architecture... almost anything.

The whole market these days is set up to pander to these increasingly specific commodity fetishes. Porn is not just T and A. The whole market is after your dopamine.
 
that shit would put Prozac and dating apps out of business forever

you'll walk into a bar and everyone would raise their mug and it would be cheerful as fuck

men would be more stress free and productive

I even think it would make a man more attractive overall

Where do you live and why are hot escorts advertizing in the local paper and coming to your house not legal?

Sounds like it sucks to live in your place.
If I want an escort, I just look at the back of the daily paper at the ads to see "new in xxx, busty" and picturs of them in bikinis. Then you just call them and the magic happens.
That is not how it works where you live? Why do you live there? It sounds retarded to live there.
 
It's ironic that people can legally have sex in front of a camera for money (porn), but they can't have sex in private for money. WTF?

Practically speaking though, Legal or illegal, it's just as obtainable. In fact in illegal sex 'markets' the prostitutes are actually cheaper, as regulation and a liberal atmopshere (see Germany) dramatically spikes up pricing. As for STD's, the benign stuff is prevalent in regulated regions, and the nasty stuff (eg AIDS) is now pretty much curable/manageable.

Studies have shown how addicting porn is, and how it rewires the brain.

Satisfying your sex drive is not an addiction. Those addicted to pron have underlying issues, as do those addicted to anything.

And I would argue that LACK of premarital sexual outlet rewires the brain in far more devious ways. Some of the most brutal, woman-slapping men I know were sexually inhibited in their formative years. As for porn, it simply taught me to last much longer during sex. All that fapping has given me great cum control.
 
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Where do you live and why are hot escorts advertizing in the local paper and coming to your house not legal?

Sounds like it sucks to live in your place.
If I want an escort, I just look at the back of the daily paper at the ads to see "new in xxx, busty" and picturs of them in bikinis. Then you just call them and the magic happens.
That is not how it works where you live? Why do you live there? It sounds retarded to live there.
good point
 
This is because women are taught by society that it is OK to use sex as a currency to reward men with.
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They teach weird stuff where you're living. Maybe I'm just from a weird society that teaches equality, liberty and such stuff, but sex as currency to reward men with was not taught around here. I guess in broad terms it's just the oversupply of dicks that is skewing the market. But life is not Dragon Age Origins, where you fill up an NPC with gifts until sex falls out. Maybe you should visit Sweden some time. Last time I was in Stockholm I was not even done with my first beer in some nightclub and was offered participation in group sex activities. No payment required.

The thought of a woman just submitting to her husband and having sex with him on demand is outright scandalous.
If a woman would just outright demand sex from her husband and expect him to just submit that would be equally scandalous. When whips and handcuffs are involved don't forget the safe word folks!
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It is even taboo to hold the opinion that if you are in a committed relationship sometimes you have to make your partner happy by doing things you aren't in the mood for for their happiness.
It's not taboo when you say it, it's just a bit weird. Even in a committed relationship you're still an individual and are not a sex toy on standby.
 
As a Christian, you KNOW that murder is against God's law. Advocating for such is antithetical to the teachings of Jesus Christ. We are supposed to separate ourselves from involvement in the world (politics, military, law enforcement, etc aka this system of things)... Not revel in it's debauchery, which includes murder fantasies like what you posted.

Executing someone who is duly convicted of a crime is not murder. Am I going to cry for a disgusting pornographer who degrades our women and girls and reduces them to objects of pleasure? Feel bad for a piece of filth who has participated in the destruction of so much of our manhood, turning the men who are supposed to lead us into the future in true eunuchs incapable of experiencing true love for woman or God? Are you, as a Christian, more concerned about this animal than the millions of men and boys he is leading to Hell? His crimes are crimes against not just God (and indeed I did not cast my initial argument as a religious one, you brought it up) but against our nation. A quick death is actually too good for this wretched trash, but I am a merciful wanna-be dictator.

Your desire to "separate ourselves" may be sincere, but it also strikes me as a great excuse to get out of fighting a hard fight, and an unpopular one.
 
My theory is that we refuse to legalize this because women will lose so much power. As we valiantly defend the matriarchy, women enjoy favoritism in marriage/divorce, earning money for modeling or any other job for just existing or looking good, and just anything they can get with just the allure of sex. Loser men will do anything just to talk to them. Imagine if you don't need to have any attachment other than a payment and you can leave. Sure it wouldn't completely rewrite everything, but it would be a game changer for a lot.
 
They teach weird stuff where you're living. Maybe I'm just from a weird society that teaches equality, liberty and such stuff, but sex as currency to reward men with was not taught around here. I guess in broad terms it's just the oversupply of dicks that is skewing the market. But life is not Dragon Age Origins, where you fill up an NPC with gifts until sex falls out. Maybe you should visit Sweden some time. Last time I was in Stockholm I was not even done with my first beer in some nightclub and was offered participation in group sex activities. No payment required.

It isn't something that is taught to women by society? That is the implied zeitgeist in mass media.


It is quite often to hear in a relationship advice column to men (by women) is do more things around the home for your wife. Like the dishes, or clean the bath tub or something like that, to essentially earn good boy points to get your wife to sleep with you. Even the MRA types say to go hit the gym and become more attractive to get your wife to sleep with you (which is also just about getting good boy points to trade in)

If a woman would just outright demand sex from her husband and expect him to just submit that would be equally scandalous. When whips and handcuffs are involved don't forget the safe word folks!

So vanilla.

It's not taboo when you say it, it's just a bit weird. Even in a committed relationship you're still an individual and are not a sex toy on standby.

By that token, should someone not be expected to take care of their partner's emotional or physical needs if sick/injured? You aren't a nurse on standby either, but society looks poorly upon a person who breaks that marriage vow.
 
Make drugs legal first. They are cheaper, less destructive and provide a closer synthetic approximation to happiness than women do wether paid directly or indirectly. I'm all for legalizing prostitution too, just saying the happiness of men isn't the reason to do it.
Executing someone who is duly convicted of a crime is not murder. Am I going to cry for a disgusting pornographer who degrades our women and girls and reduces them to objects of pleasure? Feel bad for a piece of filth who has participated in the destruction of so much of our manhood, turning the men who are supposed to lead us into the future in true eunuchs incapable of experiencing true love for woman or God? Are you, as a Christian, more concerned about this animal than the millions of men and boys he is leading to Hell? His crimes are crimes against not just God (and indeed I did not cast my initial argument as a religious one, you brought it up) but against our nation. A quick death is actually too good for this wretched trash, but I am a merciful wanna-be dictator.

Your desire to "separate ourselves" may be sincere, but it also strikes me as a great excuse to get out of fighting a hard fight, and an unpopular one.
It seems you are discounting how this is a choice. No one is exploiting anyone without thier consent, women in porn generally actively apply to the industry or are blinded by thier greed for fame and are naive enough to consent to it beliving the outcome will be giving them a foot in to getting fame and fortune. This is all well documented in numerous studies and cases in sex trafficking you can Google search for yourself. Continuing a false narrative only serves to discredit your own argument as well as insult the entirety of the Christian religions that are all based on the fact that God gives man free will to belive and does not force man into religion so why do you belive you are smarter than God and belive in removing choices for man so that they make the right choice?
 
It isn't something that is taught to women by society? That is the implied zeitgeist in mass media.

idk I don't read that shit, I have better things to do with my time, like reading massive neogaf forum threads.

It is quite often to hear in a relationship advice column to men (by women) is do more things around the home for your wife. Like the dishes, or clean the bath tub or something like that, to essentially earn good boy points to get your wife to sleep with you.
Doing the dishes? What century are you living in? I remember reading stuff like that in the 80ies and 90ies. In our household we have a dishwasher, roomba, etc. Me doing the dishes is much less efficient than having one of my household robots do it. Whatever housework can't be automated or taken care of by technology, is evenly split between us because (I refer to earlier) we live together as equals and not as master/slave-unit, where one has to collect brownie points (dishwashy points?) in order to get laid. The reason I exercise is not to make my wife sleep with me, but because I feel better afterwards. Going to the gym so that others feel better about you is a strange motivator imo.

By that token, should someone not be expected to take care of their partner's emotional or physical needs if sick/injured? You aren't a nurse on standby either, but society looks poorly upon a person who breaks that marriage vow.
Was one of your marriage vows to plough your significant other regardless if you feel like it or not? Must have been a fun ceremony. We're ill much less often than we're horny, so it's less of an issue to make the occasional cup of tea and say "there, there".
 
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