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[dcx4610]

As much as I like my Switch, it does not feel like a $300 system. It feels like cost of the system went into the tech inside the Joycons and other than 1 2 Switch, nothing is really using it yet.

The tablet itself is decent and the screen is definitely a huge improvement over typical Nintendo fare but it's small and the power is several generations old. The kickstand (which I use every day) is simply bad. It's hard to pull out unless you have sharp fingernails and it's ridiculously flimsy and feels like it's going to break. Meanwhile, the dock is just a hunk of plastic with virtually zero protection for the screen.

Again, I like the Switch but I think it feels more like a $200-250 max experience. $300 is a tough sell when you have the PS4 and XB1 out there.

 

[Kickz]

There needs to be a mainline Pokemon to come in the fall to take advantage of the NS.

Pokemon/Mario machine would kill

 

[SmokedMeat]

Unless Switch is included in the release schedule of the biggest upcoming third party games it's not going to be making that much noise during the holidays.

It'll do well. But not nearly as well as the competition.

Personally I don't see it keeping the launch momentum. Mario Kart Deluxe is a good seven weeks away, which is forever for the next big release in the videogame world

 

[bman94]

Xenoblade chronicles 2 is not a 2017 game. That game will be 2018 for sure. Unless they show tons at E3 and can go from it being in a Alpha to beta in less than 8 months? That game is a 2018 game, highly doubt it keeps it's 2017 release.

We know nothing about the developent of the game. It's 2017 until they say otherwise.

 

[Papacheeks]

As much as I like my Switch, it does not feel like a $300 system. It feels like cost of the system went into the tech inside the Joycons and other than 1 2 Switch, nothing is really using it yet.

The tablet itself is decent and the screen is definitely a huge improvement over typical Nintendo fare but it's small and the power is several generations old. The kickstand (which I use every day) is simply bad. It's hard to pull out unless you have sharp fingernails and it's ridiculously flimsy and feels like it's going to break. Meanwhile, the dock is just a hunk of plastic with virtually zero protection for the screen.

Again, I like the Switch but I think it feels more like a $200-250 max experience. $300 is a tough sell when you have the PS4 and XB1 out there.

The tech with the joycon's is what I'v been saying for along time may impact price reduction speed for that system. Unless they make the system without joycon's or the tech inside them and they are just straight wireless devices, or not even in the system box just a regular controller.

We know nothing about the developent of the game. It's 2017 until they say otherwise.

We know it was in alpha when they showed it actually.

 

[digitalrelic]

As much as I like my Switch, it does not feel like a $300 system. It feels like cost of the system went into the tech inside the Joycons and other than 1 2 Switch, nothing is really using it yet.

The tablet itself is decent and the screen is definitely a huge improvement over typical Nintendo fare but it's small and the power is several generations old. The kickstand (which I use every day) is simply bad. It's hard to pull out unless you have sharp fingernails and it's ridiculously flimsy and feels like it's going to break. Meanwhile, the dock is just a hunk of plastic with virtually zero protection for the screen.

Again, I like the Switch but I think it feels more like a $200-250 max experience. $300 is a tough sell when you have the PS4 and XB1 out there.

The tech is not several generations old. The tech is about as cutting edge as it gets at a $300 price point in a tablet form factor. $300 with the joycons & wrist straps included is a great price. It's unrealistic to expect a price much lower than that at launch.

 

[Hakai]

I will wait until E3 to say it's gonna be huge.

I think they will be fine on holiday, and they can have a big thing, but right now is too soon to say.

 

[bman94]

We know it was in alpha when they showed it actually.

Source?

 

[JoeM86]

I don't think a lazy Pokemon port/dx version changes the world for the Switch (if that's what it is, or if it even exists). But say a new Animal Crossing (the highest selling Japanese first-party game in recent years) and a 3D Mario alongside a random game or two make a great holiday line up from a first-party hardware and software sales front.

- Smash Bros. Switch
- Super Mario Odyssey
- Retro Studios game? Pokemon DX? Animal Crossing? (either of these 3 will do for Fall)

Why would it be lazy?

 

[spock]

Where are people seeing PS4, XBOX one coming down to $200?

They just had a price cut a year ago. They don't drop that fast?

I mean maybe a bundle for 200$ but the regular price for a slim is 299$ still.

I highly doubt you will see Xbox one s which hasn't even been out a year yet drop to 200$ with a game?

People are living in Pipe dreams.




Xenoblade chronicles 2 is not a 2017 game. That game will be 2018 for sure. Unless they show tons at E3 and can go from it being in a Alpha to beta in less than 8 months? That game is a 2018 game, highly doubt it keeps it's 2017 release.

Actually just last week I got the xbox one s Minecraft bundle for 199 no tax and free shipping from New egg via eBay. They even had better deals after that.

 

[Papacheeks]

The tech is not several generations old. The tech is about as cutting edge as it gets at a $300 price point in a tablet form factor. $300 with the joycons & wrist straps included is a great price. It's unrealistic to expect a price much lower than that at launch.

It is realistic if that stupid tech for the joycon's wasn't in the controllers. No developer that's making a RPG or anything like that for Switch is using the joycon's. Nintendo only games like Mario Party, Mario odyssey, Zelda, ARMS will actually use it.

If it was just attached to the tablet as one part that was used to take the switch in and out of the dock price would reflect that.

 

[Mammoth Jones]

It can all coexist.

This. I'm getting a scorpio day one but I'm also going to be going all in for good switch games.

 

[dcx4610]

The tech is not several generations old. The tech is about as cutting edge as it gets at a $300 price point in a tablet form factor. $300 with the joycons & wrist straps included is a great price. It's unrealistic to expect a price much lower than that at launch.

I'm speaking on the tablet itself. An X1 chip and 4GB of RAM. It's basically an Nvidia Shield which has been out for several years. Yes it's a custom chip but based on the performance we've seen, it's basically a Super Wii U.

if the system was using X2, $300 would certainly be more justified and there would be reason to be more optimistic. it's old, cheap technology which is classic Nintendo.

 

[Theonik]

Not with the current price, SKUs, and lineup.
They needed to hit $249 and/or bundled 1-2 Switch.

 

[OnionPowder]

I think a Mario Kart 8 Deluxe bundle could do some serious damage.

 

[JeTmAn81]

The thing a lot of posts here are missing is that Nintendo is positioning the Switch once again as a secondary console. Yes, it technically competes with Xbone and PS4 but it's also doing it's own thing. So the fact that it misses RDR2, Destiny, etc and is way less powerful than Scorpio is kind of irrelevant.

I think it's gonna do really well this Holiday.

How'd that work out for Wii U? I don't see anything about Switch that tells me it will be significantly more successful than Wii U. It's too expensive to capture much of the 3DS market, even with a new Pokemon game, and smartphones will continue to erode their audience for those kinds of games anyway. It's too underpowered to compete in the home console market and will receive abysmal third-party support. It's not looking good to me.

 

[Servbot24]

Get Smash out along with Mario and yeah

 

[digitalrelic]

I'm speaking on the tablet itself. An X1 chip and 4GB of RAM. It's basically an Nvidia Shield which has been out for several years. Yes it's a custom chip but based on the performance we've seen, it's basically a Super Wii U.

if the system was using X2, $300 would certainly be more justified and there would be reason to be more optimistic. it's old, cheap technology which is classic Nintendo.

It'd be unrealistic to expect a Tegra X2 tablet with Joycons & wriststraps & dock to retail for $299. Nintendo is trying to balance cost, power, and form factor. It's not as easy as just plopping the most expensive solution in there.

 

[wanders]

It can all coexist.

Bingo

I think this is why the switch is gonna be big

 

[Dabanton]

Way too soon to even speculate. A lot rides on the perception or reality that most third parties can't be assed to bring their biggest games to Nintendo system.

E3 will be the first event where Nintendo can show that people investing in their systems won't mean a dearth of software, once they release all their big hitters. And yes 'indies' are nice but that's not why a majority of people would buy a console. Especially not at the Switch's current pricing.

 

[The Horror the horror]

Red Dead Redemption 2 easily outsells Mario or nearly anything else Nintendo tries to counter with-- save maybe for Pokémon-- provided that RDR2 comes out this fall. It will push fence-sitters towards a PS4/XBO purchase, and both are at least $50 cheaper than Nintendo's hybrid. If RDR2 doesn't make it, things could be a bit closer... though the Switch will still look comparatively expensive, especially as a secondary console for current PS4/XBO owners. Mario always has the potential to drive at least some sales for Nintendo, and Pokémon (if it's a thing for Switch) can be a game-changer.

It would be more sensible to hold off on Q4 predictions for any of the three platforms until we have a clearer picture of what's coming and what isn't for the year, but I do think that RDR2 will be an utterly dominant force that Nintendo has zero answers for.

The last time an RD game and a mainline Mario game were released in the same gen, it wasn't even close, even with RDR being on 2 consoles.

 

[TankRizzo]

As much as I like my Switch, it does not feel like a $300 system. It feels like cost of the system went into the tech inside the Joycons and other than 1 2 Switch, nothing is really using it yet.

The tablet itself is decent and the screen is definitely a huge improvement over typical Nintendo fare but it's small and the power is several generations old. The kickstand (which I use every day) is simply bad. It's hard to pull out unless you have sharp fingernails and it's ridiculously flimsy and feels like it's going to break. Meanwhile, the dock is just a hunk of plastic with virtually zero protection for the screen.

Again, I like the Switch but I think it feels more like a $200-250 max experience. $300 is a tough sell when you have the PS4 and XB1 out there.

it's selling pretty well.

 

[killroy87]

I'll be blown away if they bundle Zelda for free so soon. The game's 98 metacritic means it'll be an automatic pickup for new owners for a couple years at least.

They'll have a bundle, but it'll be either 1,2,Switch, or Splatoon 2 (should that not get the sales they might be hoping for).

 

[spock]

As much as I like my Switch, it does not feel like a $300 system. It feels like cost of the system went into the tech inside the Joycons and other than 1 2 Switch, nothing is really using it yet.

The tablet itself is decent and the screen is definitely a huge improvement over typical Nintendo fare but it's small and the power is several generations old. The kickstand (which I use every day) is simply bad. It's hard to pull out unless you have sharp fingernails and it's ridiculously flimsy and feels like it's going to break. Meanwhile, the dock is just a hunk of plastic with virtually zero protection for the screen.

Again, I like the Switch but I think it feels more like a $200-250 max experience. $300 is a tough sell when you have the PS4 and XB1 out there.

I think the price is going to seen as a solid value due to the perception of getting both a console and portable.

That's also something that needs to be considered more strongly. Nintendo will be appealing to the audience seeing the switch as a home console as well as those seeing it as a new portable. That multiple positioning strategy will no doubt increase sales to varying degrees.

As long as the games are there...

Zelda is going to sell the system for a long time imo. As crazy as it sounds playing Zelda
Makes the purchase feel justified already which is wild to me, for me at least, didn't really expect that.

 

[Give War A Chance]

Sure it's likely it will do well this holiday. However, if they can't supply enough consoles, it's totally possible they the demand could be higher than Sony/Microsoft but it still falls short of them.

I would buy a $299 Zelda Switch bundle upon announcement, no doubt.

 

[muu]

I'll be blown away if they bundle Zelda for free so soon. The game's 98 metacritic means it'll be an automatic pickup for new owners for a couple years at least.

They'll have a bundle, but it'll be either 1,2,Switch, or Splatoon 2 (should that not get the sales they might be hoping for).

MK8 bundle perhaps? It's a re-release anyway so maybe they'll be more compelled to do a bundle year 1.

 

[Okami Haundo]

I'll be blown away if they bundle Zelda for free so soon. The game's 98 metacritic means it'll be an automatic pickup for new owners for a couple years at least.

They'll have a bundle, but it'll be either 1,2,Switch, or Splatoon 2 (should that not get the sales they might be hoping for).

Yeah... My personal bet is that they'll bundle 1 2 Switch this fall. I see it as an attempted clever strategy where they gave it a value of $50 right now, so that people will remember that when its bundled. It's a strange sales tactic that I have no information to back up, but it could make sense in a way. Games like Mario, Mario Kart, Zelda and even Splatoon seem like sure sellers on their own. I don't think Nintendo wants to get in the way of that.

 

[CortexVortex]

If they bundle it with MK or Zelda it really could sell a ton of units. Especially if Pokémon Stars is real.

 

[Gator86]

Who are all the families that will be buying Red Dead and Scorpio for their children this holiday season

Everyone? Look at GTA's sales. It's not like parents aren't buying that for their kids. RDR2 is going to kill it. Let's not downplay what might be the biggest game of the year just because it's not on Switch.

 

[The Horror the horror]

Everyone? Look at GTA's sales. It's not like parents aren't buying that for their kids. RDR2 is going to kill it. Let's not downplay what might be the biggest game of the year just because it's not on Switch.

RD isn't GTA.

It isn't even close.

 

[OrbitalBeard]

It definitely has the potential to be huge. I feel if the system has Pokemon and Smash Bros. for the holidays, alongside Odyssey, it's going to do incredible numbers.

 

[BlastProcessing]

As much as I like my Switch, it does not feel like a $300 system. It feels like cost of the system went into the tech inside the Joycons and other than 1 2 Switch, nothing is really using it yet.

The tablet itself is decent and the screen is definitely a huge improvement over typical Nintendo fare but it's small and the power is several generations old. The kickstand (which I use every day) is simply bad. It's hard to pull out unless you have sharp fingernails and it's ridiculously flimsy and feels like it's going to break. Meanwhile, the dock is just a hunk of plastic with virtually zero protection for the screen.

Again, I like the Switch but I think it feels more like a $200-250 max experience. $300 is a tough sell when you have the PS4 and XB1 out there.

It's interesting. The people I've shown it to who don't really follow games guessed it was more expensive than $300 (sometimes significantly so). The demo of playing Zelda on the TV than pulling the Switch out of the dock and having the same game instantly running on the tablet seems to really impress people.

I think that if the Switch gets sufficient software support (a big if, sure) it will sell well at $300 for a good while. I think we will see a Mario Kart or Spatoon 2 bundle this holidays and I bet it will do pretty well.

 

[Vitacat]

Yes, Switch will do very well holiday 2017. The system will be more mature, more feature rich. Issues will be worked out. The game library will be excellent. And wh knows, maybe even a price drop or packiin game.

People saying Scorpio -- nah, Scorpio and Switch are incredibly different. People buy one or the other for different reasons. Hardcore gamers will want both, because they offer very different things.

 

[somecrazymember]

Lol, from doomed to amazing sales. Gaf is such good psychics.

Anyway, i think the switch will do great aswell suring the holidays

 

[Gator86]

RD isn't GTA.

It isn't even close.

Yeah, it's probably going to only sell a fraction of those 70 million sales. I hope it doesn't get overshadowed by Arms.

 

[DMONKUMA]

The last time an RD game and a mainline Mario game were released in the same gen, it wasn't even close, even with RDR being on 2 consoles.

I'm pretty sure Galaxy 2 didn't sell as much as RDR. Even during that time frame.

 

[Philippo]

Slight price drop, noticeable improvement to firmware/digital services from now until then, add Pkmn Stars to the Fal lineup then yeah it might be quite a big holiday season.

 

[Godzilla's Left Toe]

Mario Kart 8 Deluxe would be a much more realistic and beneficial pack-in. A console with 2-player Mario Kart OUT OF THE BOX? That'd be huge.

Agree perfect holiday pack in game.

 

[yuraya]

I agree its going to be big this holiday season.

You are looking at the possibility of a very stacked holiday lineup of games to choose from as well when you buy it.

Zelda
Splatoon 2
Xenoblade Chronicles 2
Pokemon Stars
Odyssey

Also the device is selling really well despite being overpriced by like 50-75$ imo. It will sell like hotcakes during holidays If they can drop the price down to 250$ and bundle Splatoon 2 with it. or some other game.

 

[dreamlongdead]

Way too early to predict anything because the release schedule is not final. I also expect sales to slow down in drought periods. If the games and price are good by Fall, then it may do very well.

Otherwise, just focus on the present. I'm not even sure why this is a thread.

 

[qko]

Over the years, Nintendo plans out a September game and two holiday games for the Holiday season on their main console.

2015: Super Mario Maker (September), Star Fox (November which got delayed to April) and Xenoblade X (December).
2014: Hyrule Warriors (September), Smash Bros (November), and Captain Toad (December).
2013: Wind Waker (September), Super Mario 3d World (November), Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze (December, which got delayed to Feb.).

2016 was a wash since we knew the Switch was around the corner... but even then we got Paper Mario in September.

For now we know Super Mario Odyssey will probably be the November game. We'll probably have to guess what the September and December game will end up being.

 

[maxcriden]

To be honest, they'll probably have a NSMB or some other Mario spin off title ready for the holidays that they could ostensibly pack-in.

I think the holiday is almost definitely going to have a bundle. I don't think it will be Odyssey or Zelda, though.

Has a NSMB/Mario spin-off ever been bundled at or around the time of its release, though? I don't think they will risk cannibalizing 3D Mario sales, which are historically < 2D Mario sales, with a 2D Mario launching at the same time.

 

[asagami_]

I'm speaking on the tablet itself. An X1 chip and 4GB of RAM. It's basically an Nvidia Shield which has been out for several years. Yes it's a custom chip but based on the performance we've seen, it's basically a Super Wii U.

if the system was using X2, $300 would certainly be more justified and there would be reason to be more optimistic. it's old, cheap technology which is classic Nintendo.

Even if it's official the Custom chip is based in Tegra X1, it's not like you say. The Nvidia Shield device which uses X1 is not portable, and it cost $199, and it's 2 years old. How you can say a 2 year technology it's old AND cheap? Seriously.

 

[KAOz]

RD isn't GTA.

It isn't even close.

While I do think people might bet quite a bit on RDR2, it's going to be big.

The "new" RD-concept with open world was unproven when Redemption hit and one could easily see it as a new IP. Not many cared or knew about Revolver.
Comparing it to a mainline Mario is kind of unfair in that regard.

This time people KNOW what they get. And Rockstar has earned even more goodwill thanks to GTAV.

But I do agree, GTA it isn't.

It will probably sell boatloads but maybe not GTAV-loads.

All in all I hope for good sales for everyone of the big 3 aswell as third parties.

 

[jay]

Wait what? There won't be a hardware revision for years.

Maybe 18 months, but sure. If the system doesn't sell well there will never be one, therefore for this and other reasons I want it to sell well.

 

[digitalrelic]

Lol, from doomed to amazing sales. Gaf is such good psychics.

Anyway, i think the switch will do great aswell suring the holidays

To be fair, I predicted the Switch was going to be big in a thread I created over a month ago.

 

[ZanDatsu]

That's when I'm thinking of getting in, but only if they have ironed out some of the hardware issues and there's some kind of bundle available. If everything is the same and the only difference is a few more games, I won't bite.

 

[somecrazymember]

To be fair, I predicted the Switch was going to be big in a thread I created over a month ago.

I'm just joking, sry no harm intended

 

[Jumeira]

Nope. X1, PS4, Pro and Scorpio will all dominate. Switch sales are decent but Nintendo fans will have bought thier consoles by then, I don't see them expanding thier audience that much.

 

[fahr]

The 3ds never got any AAA western titles and it's been doing just fine. Switch (since it's a portable) will do well this holiday, especially if they get pokemon stars out by then.