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I use Internet Explorer and I'm proud of it.

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Came close to going to IE10 and sticking with it, it ain't half bad. Since the annoying GIF glitch been fixed in Chrome with the fix some posted I'm staying with that.
 
felipeko said:
As a web developer i have good reasons to hate IE6.

It's like having to develop for SNES while you could've been developing for WiiU (or something).

While IE9 was average (not good, it missed a lot of new HTML features at the time), and 10 is finally getting good. It will always be held back by slow updates. By the time Microsoft launches IE11, Chrome/Firefox will have so many cool features that will make supporting IE10 a pain again.

That why my developing priority is this:
1- Chorme/Firefox
2- Mobile (Safari/Android)
3- Mobile Apps/Browser Extensions
4- IE10
5- IE9
6- that's it. Use Chrome Frame.

Such a waste of developers time.
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Have you ever thought of reversing your workflow? This should ensure better compatibility especially with regards to CSS.

One of the things I've noticed is that if you target IE9 first, you would notice that it is easy to scale up from that to better browsers. Think of IE9 as the minimum experience baseline. What of everything fancy is stripped leaving you with a basic but functional site?

Also, this will also help to ensure that you don't forget about non-WebKit. Keep in mind that code for IE10 will usually almost always work in FF16+ and Opera 12.5 and newer without any modifications.
 
Cuteness Overload said:
Have you ever thought of reversing your workflow? This should ensure better compatibility especially with regards to CSS.

One of the things I've noticed is that if you target IE9 first, you would notice that it is easy to scale up from that to better browsers. Think of IE9 as the minimum experience baseline. What of everything fancy is stripped leaving you with a basic but functional site?

Also, this will also help to ensure that you don't forget about non-WebKit. Keep in mind that code for IE10 will usually almost always work in FF16+ and Opera 12.5 and newer without any modifications.
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Who are you and what have you done with CO?

Post about plushies or something, you're scaring me.
 
Adblock Plus
Per-site zoom settings
Youtube Download
Reddit Enhancement Suite

If IE10 had these 4 available to it, I would switch instantly. Fuck it, just the top 2 things and I would seriously consider it.
 
ie10 is pretty good as a second browser, have the bare minimum so its quite snappy

cant get away from chrome though, i dont want to either its just perfect for me
 
Josh7289 said:
So what was the point if you eventually (I assume) upgraded to XP anyway?
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The company upgraded to XP, but I didn't like it, preferred NT, it honestly never once crashed on me and I didn't feel like learning a new OS at the time. The IT guys were cool with me so they just let me stick with NT up until I left in '05. I'm sure eventually I would have had to upgrade if I stayed there.
 
Cuteness Overload said:
Have you ever thought of reversing your workflow? This should ensure better compatibility especially with regards to CSS.

One of the things I've noticed is that if you target IE9 first, you would notice that it is easy to scale up from that to better browsers. Think of IE9 as the minimum experience baseline. What of everything fancy is stripped leaving you with a basic but functional site?

Also, this will also help to ensure that you don't forget about non-WebKit. Keep in mind that code for IE10 will usually almost always work in FF16+ and Opera 12.5 and newer without any modifications.
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My main concern is always try to develop with the standard API whenever it's possible, so most browsers will just work (with very few adjustments).
For me there's two problems targeting IE9 first, one is that i work on Ubuntu, so while it's virtually possible, it's a pain to do so, second and most important, Chrome Developer Tools are amazing, and it doesn't seem that IE9 developer tools have evolved much since the poor IE7 ones.

So i just start with the best experience possible (on Chrome and testing casually on Firefox), while trying to make CSS just gracefully degrade (animations, round corners and other stuff usually degrade nice).
When both Chrome e Firefox work, Opera takes very little time. The same should hold true to IE10, i'm not sure, as i never tested on it (it has such a low marketshare ATM that i do not worry, yet). I just tell my users to use Chrome Frame, and when i can (or need) i will support IE10, and eventually IE9..

If you look at this page: http://yuilibrary.com/yui/environments/ is easy to understand my main reason for doing this way. Both Chrome and Firefox are not treated as version, we can just assume it will work in any version (and that the user will eventually be in the newest version), where even if i ever support IE10, it's not guaranteed that it will work in IE11, and that's my main problem, because IE11 should be here by next year, so i will need to test everything for it again? I don't have time for that if i want to develop new things.

Maybe i'm wrong and IE10-11 will just work with standards, then i think i will finally support it.
 
I myself feel like I'm close to start loving IE10...wubwubwubwub


Seriously IE10 is finally a decent try from MS but kind of late. but Chrome gives my bookmarks and tab sync across multiple devicese Hard to beat that.
 
MCD said:
IE10 installs new versions automatically.
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While this is nice, it still won't help much if Microsoft only releases improvements once in a year (or longer), or any improved version break compatibility.

Maybe this new lower marketshare (i'm from Brazil, Chrome has more than 50% here) have humbled Microsoft to finally treat web developers and standards with respect. That would be a good thing.
 
Other browsers really don't come or go. Other than IE, there's 2 mainstream browsers primarily used on PC's. Not some revolving door like you imply in the OP.
 
Theonik said:
Somewhere there is a web developer that hates your guts.
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Not the user specifically, just the action.

Regarding the question of why not start with IE9 when developing, when I first started my job one of the first books I read about design basically instructed DO NOT start with IE. It is much easier to program for most other browsers, such as Firefox, FIRST and then work out the kinks for IE than to start with IE and work with all its idiosyncrasies, then try and figure out the rest for the other browsers.

I have not heard of any industry-driven suggestion to the contrary, so that's what I do.
 
IE10 has a decent engine powering it now, but it still lacks the features and custumizability I want. But at least using IE9 or 10 as your primary browser is isn't hurting anyone the way people stuck on IE6 back in the day were.
 
Dreams-Visions said:
Does IE 10 have scripts or plugins for youtube or quick replies on GAF yet? Decent Flash blocking support?
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The tpl support works quite well for blocking ads. It's nice being directly integrated but not having an addon/app means you can't customize it (to allow some sites like neogaf to bypass those settings) and remove the space for the ads on some websites.

Use this on myself for ie adblock: http://www.fanboy.co.nz/ie.html (only use ie on my surface currently though)
 
I am neither proud nor ashamed of the browser I use (Firefox). To me, it's a tool for navigating the web, a tool that I found to be preferable to other browsers. It's like selecting a brand of hammer to use: you find what works best for your needs, and you use it. You don't typically brag to your friends about the brand of hammer you use.
 
IE is very good. I use it along with firefox and chrome. However, chrome has been a little slow these days and not as good lately. I still use it though and I hope that Google will continue to improve it.
 
En Ex said:
I am neither proud nor ashamed of the browser I use (Firefox). To me, it's a tool for navigating the web, a tool that I found to be preferable to other browsers. It's like selecting a brand of hammer to use: you find what works best for your needs, and you use it. You don't typically brag to your friends about the brand of hammer you use.
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Speak for your self :)

Jk, I know what you mean
 
Hellraizer said:
I myself feel like I'm close to start loving IE10...wubwubwubwub
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And it feels like I am just too close to love IE 10, there's nothing I can really say.
I can't lie no more, I can't hide no more, got to be true to myself...so I'll be on my waaaay.

being true means using chrome
 
Monumental said:
Adblock Plus
Per-site zoom settings
Youtube Download
Reddit Enhancement Suite

If IE10 had these 4 available to it, I would switch instantly. Fuck it, just the top 2 things and I would seriously consider it.
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For blocking ads, there is the Tracking Protection Lists that was added for IE9. Crappy name, but it does the same thing as AdBlock.

http://www.iegallery.com/en-US/trackingprotectionlists

For me, the only thing I want from your list is RES. Everything else about IE10 is fantastic. It's really fast which is the most important thing from a web browser for me.
 
I use Internet Explorer too... 7, 8, 9 and 10. However, I do so to make sure my websites work properly in them. Then I spend hours fucking with HTML and CSS hacks to "fix" all the inconsistencies between them. Thanks Microsoft!

I will say that 9 and 10 are a step in the right direction. I still refuse to use any version of IE as my main browser on my PC.
 
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