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[Luke_Wal]

Between seeing Age of Ultron and marathoning all of Agents Of Shield in less than a week, my Marvel love is at an all-time high. I haven't read many comic books, mostly just ones that people view as really good from the big two (the first two Hawkeye graphic novels, Gotham Central, Dark Knight Returns, Captain America's Winter Soldier Ultimate Collection, Watchmen), but I really want to take a stab at Civil War. The problem is just how big Civil War is as an event.

Would these be sufficient?

Road to Civil War
Civil War
Captain America: Civil War

Or is there some sort of Ultimate Collection that I'm missing? What should I read to get the best parts of Civil War on a budget?

 

[JBourne]

Do you have Marvel Unlimited?

 

[Shaanyboi]

don't...

 

[iMax]

I've never read a comic book in my life but I know the MCU inside out.

Just bought Secret Wars #1. Hope I understand it!

 

[Toa TAK]

How about you read Superior Spider-Man #1.

 

[Keyser Soze]

 

[Luke_Wal]

Do you have Marvel Unlimited?

I do NOT, but I'm now seeing they have a free one month trial offer after Ultron. Should I hit that up? What should I read with that if I want to get Civil War?

Forgot to mention: I LOVE Infinity Gauntlet. I should've included that in my OP.

 

[Poodlestrike]

They'd be sufficient...

To remove all hype you have for the movie.

Seriously, don't. It's a bad event. Not, like, AXIS bad, but pretty bad.

 

[Zeyphersan]

1. No you don't

2. Here:

http://www.comicbookherald.com/the-complete-marvel-reading-order-guide/guide-part-7-civil-war/

Has both this guy's personal list, and the official reading order from Marvel

I've never read a comic book in my life but I know the MCU inside out.

Just bought Secret Wars #1. Hope I understand it!

Uh.... Good luck with that

 

[kswiston]

If you read it, keep in mind that Mark Millar wrote it so everyone is an asshole and minorities have short life expediencies.

 

[Zeyphersan]

If you read it, keep in mind that Mark Millar wrote it so everyone is an asshole and minorities have short life expediencies.

Also it's an event comic so everyone is acting out of character anyway

Not that Mark Millar helps with that

 

[Toa TAK]

I do NOT, but I'm now seeing they have a free one month trial offer after Ultron. Should I hit that up? What should I read with that if I want to get Civil War?

Seriously, hit that up.

 

[JBourne]

I do NOT, but I'm now seeing they have a free one month trial offer after Ultron. Should I hit that up? What should I read with that if I want to get Civil War?

Forgot to mention: I LOVE Infinity Gauntlet. I should've included that in my OP.

You could get through Civil War in a month, and it'll be in one easy-to-follow section. Sometimes Unlimited is bad about having issues missing from their event sections, though. I read through Annihilation and realized on that last issue that they had left out some ridiculously important issues. The ending came completely out of left field for me, and I didn't really know what was going on.

You might decide to just keep subscribing to Unlimited. It's really great if you haven't read comics in a while. And you should really read through all the Annihilation stuff. It's amazing.

The ever-posted image:

 

[Luke_Wal]

They'd be sufficient...

To remove all hype you have for the movie.

Seriously, don't. It's a bad event. Not, like, AXIS bad, but pretty bad.

What SHOULD I read, then? I'd be interested in reading some cool stories about some of these New Avengers team members, but I would also settle for good Iron Man, Daredevil, Spider-Man, or Cap stories? Or even just general Avengers stories?

 

[duckroll]

Instead of reading Civil War, you can do something much less painful to replicate the same experience.

1) Take a sharp knife

2) Start carving IM A BADASS onto your arms

3) Take off your shirt

4) Stare in a mirror and growl

5) Call your best friend over and punch him in a face

6) Run outside and take a dump on the pavement

 

[iMax]

Uh.... Good luck with that

Some Marvel dude said in an interview with The Verge that it's written in a way to be understandable by newcomers. The art looks sick, so I'm just hoping that holds true.

 

[Coriolanus]

All the main issues of Civil War are available here.

Read these and call it a day.

 

[kswiston]

Also it's an event comic so everyone is acting out of character anyway

Not that Mark Millar helps with that

Somehow Marvel editorial OK'd Mark Millar having Tony and Co. build a superhero Gitmo in the Negative Zone at the exact same time that the Negative Zone was invading and destroying half of the galaxy in Annihilation.

 

[Poodlestrike]

What SHOULD I read, then? I'd be interested in reading some cool stories about some of these New Avengers team members, but I would also settle for good Iron Man, Daredevil, Spider-Man, or Cap stories? Or even just general Avengers stories?

Well... Hickman's current Avengers / New Avengers run is held to be pretty great, though Hickman isn't really my style. There's a reading order floating around, check out ComicGAF in Community.

Past that, I'm not hugely familiar with Marvel. You can't really go wrong with Daredevil, though, that book just moves from strength to strength.

 

[Zeyphersan]

Somehow Marvel editorial OK'd Mark Millar having Tony and Co. build a superhero Gitmo in the Negative Zone at the exact same time that the Negative Zone was invading and destroying half of the galaxy in Annihilation.

You can question anything Marvel editorial was doing surrounding Civil War

Like hiring Mark Millar

 

[wenis]

It's pretty cool. Give it a read. People are still bitter how it all played out, but I dug it a lot.

#TEAMSTARK #ENLIST

 

[bigkrev]

Read Civil War: The Confession, and then you are done

 

[duckroll]

A more honest recommendation: If you want to read something to get you hyped for the Civil War movie, you might as well just read Brubaker's entire Captain America run. I think it's probable that the movie will draw more from his post-Winter Soldier story arcs, rather than just Civil War itself.

 

[shadyspace]

Just breeze through the main 7 issues in an afternoon. It's okay.

 

[TheDarkKnight774]

No you don't. And if you must read it then just read the trade. There's no need to read any road to civil war aftermath, etc. at best frontline is pretty good for most of it

 

[kswiston]

You can question anything Marvel editorial was doing surrounding Civil War

Like hiring Mark Millar

I know why Millar was employed. He sold books like few others in that time period. I'm just surprised they were fine with him doing longish term damage to so many characters.

A more honest recommendation: If you want to read something to get you hyped for the Civil War movie, you might as well just read Brubaker's entire Captain America run. I think it's probable that the movie will draw more from his post-Winter Soldier story arcs, rather than just Civil War itself.

MCU Iron Man borrowed a lot from the Iron Man run that was ongoing around that time as well (Staring with Warren Ellis' Extremis soft reboot and continuing through the aftermath of Civil War). I thought that volume was pretty decent if you want to read some Iron Man stories.

 

[CaptainofIndustry]

Greatest of all time. You are my hero.

 

[Shining Sunshine]

I own all of the Civil War comics.

Screw all you haters best comic series!

 

[diamount]

Doesn't it get retconned in later story arcs?

 

[Weiss]

Please don't do this to yourself. You have friends and family that love you.

 

[Luke_Wal]

So, all of Brubaker's Cap and Ellis's Iron Man? Who's the guy that's supposed to have the really good Daredevil stuff? Is it Waid or Millar?

What about Scarlet Witch/Vision? I know they have a relationship in the comics, but where would I go to see some great interactions with them? Is there a particular run on Avengers that includes them and is pretty good? I really liked those characters in AoU....

 

[kswiston]

Doesn't it get retconned in later story arcs?

No. Most Marvel stories don't get retconned as much as they are just forgotten.

The only explicit retcon of Civil War that comes to mind is the fact that Hank Pym was a skrull at the time.

 

[Zeyphersan]

Doesn't it get retconned in later story arcs?

Marvel tries not to do retconning, they do sort of "soft-reboots," where things fall out of continuity until they're mentioned when it's convenient.

For example, no one brings up Tony Stark going full Nazi on everybody, but they could if they wanted to, because it technically still happened. It's just forgotten until it's needed

So, all of Brubaker's Cap and Ellis's Iron Man? Who's the guy that's supposed to have the really good Daredevil stuff? Is it Waid or Millar?

What about Scarlet Witch/Vision? I know they have a relationship in the comics, but where would I go to see some great interactions with them? Is there a particular run on Avengers that includes them and is pretty good? I really liked those characters in AoU....

Miller, then Kevin Smith which leads into Brian Michael Bendis, then Waid. In that chronological order

 

[kswiston]

So, all of Brubaker's Cap and Ellis's Iron Man? Who's the guy that's supposed to have the really good Daredevil stuff? Is it Waid or Millar?

What about Scarlet Witch/Vision? I know they have a relationship in the comics, but where would I go to see some great interactions with them? Is there a particular run on Avengers that includes them and is pretty good? I really liked those characters in AoU....

Start with the Bendis run of Daredevil. That leads into Brubaker's run, and Mark Waid run comes sometime after that. If you really like Daredevil you can go and read Frank Miller's older stuff later.

If you want Scarlet Witch and Vision, I guess the Kurt Busiek run would probably fit as good as any without having you dig up old comics from the 70s/80s.

 

[duckroll]

So, all of Brubaker's Cap and Ellis's Iron Man? Who's the guy that's supposed to have the really good Daredevil stuff? Is it Waid or Millar?

What about Scarlet Witch/Vision? I know they have a relationship in the comics, but where would I go to see some great interactions with them? Is there a particular run on Avengers that includes them and is pretty good? I really liked those characters in AoU....

Miller is the grandfather of modern Daredevil, but the run most people recommend because of the great serialized nature is the Bendis run. Brubaker picks up after the Bendis run right off a cliffhanger though, so you'll probably want to continue that too. I think the Brubaker run kinda fizzles by the end, but the way he picked up from Bendis was superb.

 

[nintendork666]

I liked Civil War. Just read the main story, don't bother with "Road to" or any of the character-specific books out there.

 

[kswiston]

Miller is the grandfather of modern Daredevil, but the run most people recommend because of the great serialized nature is the Bendis run. Brubaker picks up after the Bendis run right off a cliffhanger though, so you'll probably want to continue that too. I think the Brubaker run kinda fizzles by the end, but the way he picked up from Bendis was superb.

Devil in Cell Block D is a must read, but I gave up on Brubaker 3-4 arcs in.

 

[shadyspace]

No. Most Marvel stories don't get retconned as much as they are just forgotten.

The only explicit retcon of Civil War that comes to mind is the fact that Hank Pym was a skrull at the time.

Well, you also had Tony rebooting to an earlier version of himself so that he couldn't be blamed for any of the decisions he made during Civil War.

 

[duckroll]

Devil in Cell Block D is a must read, but I gave up on Brubaker 3-4 arcs in.

I read the whole thing, and then I read Diggle's Shadowland. I wish I could go back and tell myself to stop before Brubaker's Return of the King arc. Would have had better memories, and I wouldn't have read Shadowland.

 

[Spider from Mars]

Civil war is dookie garbage. Read Hickson's run of Fantastic Four instead and then you can read his Avengers and New Avengers which will lead into Secret Wars.

Seriously though, Civil War is street trash.

 

[Alligatorjandro]

I would just get Marvel Unlimited and go from there.

Right now im reading Annhilation and really enjoying it.

 

[JBourne]

I'm also one of those people who didn't mind Civil War.

 

[Coriolanus]

What about Scarlet Witch/Vision?

That was a long time ago. Thankfully.

 

[Zombine]

You know, I didn't include Civil War in my comic Q&A thread for a reason...

Ugh, events. Why do people want to read them because they watched a movie? They're fucking awful. It took Secret Wars 100+ issues of Hickman planning to even kick this thing off remotely well. Civil War was mandated unfinished crap.

Want to read Civil War?

Read NextWave and call it a day

 

[Zeyphersan]

I passed this thread along to my comic friend and he's like "At least he's not trying to read House of M"

So good on you

 

[Tawney Bomb]

don't...

I second this motion.

 

[Coriolanus]

Want to read?

*pic*

Read NextWave and call it a day

Fix'd.

I passed this thread along to my comic friend and he's like "At least he's not trying to read House of M"

So good on you

I'm still trying to get Rhaknar to read Secret Invasion.

 

[……forgetit]

I'm echoing don't read it, it was an interesting concept with God awful execution

 

[Zombine]

Comic events make me feel unclean. I need a shower. Where's Hydro Man when you need him?

 

[Rooster12]

What SHOULD I read, then? I'd be interested in reading some cool stories about some of these New Avengers team members, but I would also settle for good Iron Man, Daredevil, Spider-Man, or Cap stories? Or even just general Avengers stories?

The "average" Iron Man, Daredevil, Avengers stuff is way, way better than the Civil War nonsense.

Ok, if you REALLY have to read Civil War, I recommend Civil War:Frontlines, it's about the Daily Bugle and other newspapers covering the event. It's pretty good.