Nope. I'm sure you have done something, perhaps even something as mundane as pissing in the woods, that would be considered a felony if pursued by a prick of a cop.
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I was given a ticket for indecent exposure - help
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Nope. I'm sure you have done something, perhaps even something as mundane as pissing in the woods, that would be considered a felony if pursued by a prick of a cop.
Sidewinder
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Wow what a wanker! Your case must've set the whole police station ablaze, luckily you are not a Nam Vet or you'd have given them a war they wouldn't believe!
If I ever go to the US of A I'll remember not to talk to cops.
If I ever go to the US of A I'll remember not to talk to cops.
ashrafazlan
Banned
You should put this on reddit.
Canis lupus
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What, you could go to jail just doing it in in the middle of nowhere? The cop just shouldve left you alone.
Sue the county for defamation of character, and badgering someone with a medical condition(get a doctors note.)
you wont win, but it will cost them more than they would earn, and the charge will be dropped
and next time tell the cop you were looking for fields to pick mushrooms.. its the only other logical reason you were out there
you wont win, but it will cost them more than they would earn, and the charge will be dropped
and next time tell the cop you were looking for fields to pick mushrooms.. its the only other logical reason you were out there
but but but we're the land of the free i heard
Clay Davis
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this and the story in the opening post are insane. if you're caught urinating in a public place in the uk (in front of a closed shop or business), the policeman or policewoman who catches you will often demand you borrow a mop and water from an open shop (if there is one) and clean it up.
you might be fined but that doesn't go on your record and you certainly will never be arrested unless you urinate on the police involved or you're very rude.
what a completely backwards way to approach this kind of situation. sounds like the police enjoy far too much power if something as simple as this can ruin your life.
Clay Davis
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this is how I'm reading the situation too. if you don't expose your penis, there's no crime. unless wetting yourself is also illegal? stand in the woods, urinate in your pants, put a bag down over your seat and drive home or to the nearest restroom and change.
maybe pack some lemon scented wet ones too. lol.
this is frankly hilarious, shocking and depressing in equal amounts. the police shouldn't have the power to ruin someone's life over something like urinating in the woods or on the side of the road if you have your back turned to traffic.
Air Zombie Meat
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Yeah, this is ridiculous. I could see being given a warning or a fine in extreme cases but indecent exposure? Just stupid.
Also reminds me, I saw some guy getting busted by a policeman for blatantly taking a shit in some bushes in the middle of a busy town a couple of weeks ago. Cracked me up.
Also reminds me, I saw some guy getting busted by a policeman for blatantly taking a shit in some bushes in the middle of a busy town a couple of weeks ago. Cracked me up.
scar tissue
Banned
FOUR COPS for a guy pissing in the woods?
Only in America.
This shit is ass-backwards on a level you'd expect from Iran, not from a first world country.
Clay Davis
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it sounds like all the police involved were power tripping. or maybe the off duty cop has a lot of influence over others? either way, the police in the this situation should not have that much power. I could understand if he was caught flashing his penis and urinating in front of a playground full of kids or other situations where it's legitimately indecent exposure, but not in the situation described in the opening post.
what really leaves me speechless is the indecent exposure accusation. if the poster is telling the truth, and we have no reason to doubt him, his back was turned to traffic, so where does the indecent exposure element come into it? who did he indecently expose himself to?
this is what I would like to know. what is the reasoning behind the accusation. who are the police saying he exposed himself to. I'm thinking, is this nothing more than an attempt to make money through fining? I've read stories about the justice system in the us profiting from people who get sent to jail (this might be a gross oversimplification of the issue, so I apologize for that), is this the same? something doesn't add up.
That's the thing though, he didn't know he was talking to a cop.
He finished his piss and a guy asked him what he was doing. He probably responded "Just taking a piss, man." or something casual like that. It was THEN the guy informed him he was an off-duty cop.
Pissing in the woods, could end up in jail and on the sex offenders list - America
Reading that opening post is just ludicrous. If you was in town, pissing up walls, you run the risk but still being told that you could be put on the sex offenders list is unbelievable. Power hungry, backwards pig this guy was. The situation you're in should never have happened
Reading that opening post is just ludicrous. If you was in town, pissing up walls, you run the risk but still being told that you could be put on the sex offenders list is unbelievable. Power hungry, backwards pig this guy was. The situation you're in should never have happened
That's crazy.
I got caught taking a leak on the side of a building once, at 4 in the morning.
The cops rolled up on me, waited for me to finish my business, asked for an ID and I received a €24 fine in the mail 2 weeks later.
Doesn't even go on my record.
You're saying that could have landed me in jail in Oklahoma?
I got caught taking a leak on the side of a building once, at 4 in the morning.
The cops rolled up on me, waited for me to finish my business, asked for an ID and I received a €24 fine in the mail 2 weeks later.
Doesn't even go on my record.
You're saying that could have landed me in jail in Oklahoma?
Clay Davis
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jail and your name on a sex offenders register.
it's stories like this that make me happy to have been born in the uk. we might be the most watched nation on the planet, we might have hate speech laws that some might say restrict freedom of speech but at least we don't run the risk of having our lives ruined by power tripping police who determine on a whim whether or not they want to ruin your life on what most would agree are completely bogus charges.
BankaiZaraki
Banned
I've pissed right off the highway off I-10 in Florida. Made sure as shit no one saw my junk.
Devolution
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So pissing might net some guy a sex offender label but this cop can grope women without having to register. Ugh.
Alex Connolly
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It does not mention you were clothed in the OP.
TemplaerDude
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I hope you have you fist raised in mock ire.
Clay Davis
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I really need go.
well, this looks as good a place as any to empty my bladder...
unzips pants
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oh hey, what's that over there. looks like nuts. giant nuts.
gets closer.
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oh yeah, that's right baby. show me the goods.
I'm sorry for poking fun, but it's ludicrous that urinating in the woods is a criminal offence.
perfectchaos007
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Wow, I'm sorry OP. It sucks that what really got you in trouble was telling the truth. I had a friend cited for indecent exposure when he took a piss in downtown austin. However, there were people around and it was on to the side of a building (private property), so that punishment was pretty justifiable.
Considering the cop didn't just give you a warning after what was an honest, harmless, mistake, I have to believe that town is still a speed trap that relies on misdemeanor violations from unsuspecting out of town travelers to pay the majority sum of their towns employees. it sucks that you were a victim of that.
If that happened to me, I would highly consider not paying the fine, taking the warrant, and just avoid traveling into that state for the rest of my life since the warrant is only valid in Oklahoma. I think thats how it works anyway. If for some reason I got a warrant in North Dakota ( Or some random state I would have no problem ever stepping foot in again ), the decision not to pay the fine would be pretty easy haha.
Considering the cop didn't just give you a warning after what was an honest, harmless, mistake, I have to believe that town is still a speed trap that relies on misdemeanor violations from unsuspecting out of town travelers to pay the majority sum of their towns employees. it sucks that you were a victim of that.
If that happened to me, I would highly consider not paying the fine, taking the warrant, and just avoid traveling into that state for the rest of my life since the warrant is only valid in Oklahoma. I think thats how it works anyway. If for some reason I got a warrant in North Dakota ( Or some random state I would have no problem ever stepping foot in again ), the decision not to pay the fine would be pretty easy haha.
Thunder Monkey
Banned
THERE COULD HAVE BEEN A CHILD AROUND!
The only option is to put him on the sex offenders registry.
Humans are freaking insane.
One would hope so. Laws should be made for humans, not robots. Any decent policeman / judge should use common sense and follow the spirit of the law, not apply it blindly like what happens in a police state.
I am leaning more towards "what can I do about this to make things better" even though I don't live in the state. However, as I said I was surprised some cops and lawyers reply was "you are damn lucky" that I did not get the felony as others have. That also makes me sad that you are suppose to just feel lucky that you did not get the full force of the law when others do, and just go on.
I know you can't always change the world, but in this case I am not really embarrassed by the fact of what I did and didn't feel like I did anything wrong. Therefore, people knowing this has happened to me doesn't really bother me if I decide to take action. Now if I was caught on video with my junk hanging out or something and was trying to get out of it, hell no I am staying low and trying to get out of it. In this case, I would be willing to stand in court of in front of the state of OK and tell my story, something or anything that may help. If then society there decides I am indeed a bad person for doing this well then I still don't agree and would just rather live in a place people not so strict and rather concentrates time and resources on true issues, which I hope still exists in the US.
teruterubozu
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The town LIVES on traffic tickets. 50% of the town's income! This is a classic being at the wrong place scenario.
Rubbish King
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Damn son, i remember getting grabbed mid-flow in an alleyway right next to a police car on new years...didnt get anything for it, although i almost got fined....
That's super unlucky though man, I'd say fight it but it sounds like yank police are pretty damn stubborn
That's super unlucky though man, I'd say fight it but it sounds like yank police are pretty damn stubborn
Thanks for looking that up.
No I am not a minority. I did have the thought, if I was a minority, would I think I am being treated because I am? Certainly if I was a minority then it would make for some reason why I was being treated the way I was. The cop and I were both white folk.
I did have a car rental with plates for Louisiana, so I thought maybe that had something to do with it being out of state. I told them it was a car rental. They asked me where I was from and where I was heading.
Maybe I can use this in defense.
This is what I realized the next day. At first I was happy I am not in some other country like Iran where things go down like this. Then I was sad because I realized this is the US and how much closer are we to such countries. This is also why I can just try to get out of the situation so the misdemeanor is not on my record for indecent exposure, or I can do that and then take some action to not let things like this continue with some kind of law change or revoke.
It's crazy random what kind of reaction you'll get. I've known of someone getting caught for 50 over the speed limit and let go while others have been ticketed for not coming to a complete stop at a stop sign. Both in the same area. The cop and their mood seems to have more to do with the punishment than the crime itself.
This is what bothers me. If I have indecent exposure on my record, people will automatically think I did some crude thing like run naked in town in front of a school or flashing young kids, something like that. Yet I will be grouped together with such people.
Today with how computers and searches are done, it will just be a flag on my record. That flag for the ticket will then make me ineligible for jobs. Do you think a non-profit group wants to risk having someone that exposed themselves in their group? It doesn't matter the circumstances you are just not going to be allowed.
Imagine if a youth pastor or youth kids sports coach was in my situation.
Yep, back turned to everyone just like any normal person would do. As I stated when the cop told me this was indecent exposure and I started to explain I was down towards the woods facing away from the road, he raised his voice and said if I argued with him he would charge me with a felony so I shut up. I was very nice, was not sarcastic. At that point I already didn't know what was going to happen and could not believe the situation.
I have been trying to find an analogy to compare the situation, yet I cannot think of one that is so crude and could screw up someone's life.
Exactly.
In the middle ages, people who travelled through remote places often got assaulted by roaming thieves. It seems nowadays they have organized it a bit better, the stealing is more systematic and the parasites are protected by law.
He won't be- they're dependent on the revenue.
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