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Freezie KO said:
Why? I stand by what I said. If GAF is going to have fun with .gifs, that's fine. But if a gay kid is getting bottles thrown at him, I have no problem calling for the bullies' heads.
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High school students aren't beyond changing or being taught tolerance. But you'd rather kill them.
 
Izick said:
That shit's not right, but you can't put people to death for that. I mean, it's fucked up as all hell, and is a terrible, terrible thing, but there's no way you can just have them executed for that.
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You're entitled to your opinion. High schoolers have been tried as adults before. Throwing bottles at a kid because he's "flamboyant"?

Sure, put them to death. Or worse, sentence them to years of digging through my post history for controversial statements.
 
Freezie KO said:
Claim "owning" all you want, and for the time commitment you spent digging that up, I'm sure it was worth it. (Surely, I've said more controversial things since MAY.)

That said, reading the story again, I have no reason not to stand by that as actual justice. If a single gay kid is getting rocks and bottles thrown at him (attempted murder, IMO), I have no problem sending all the bullies to death.
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Not even close.
 
Freezie KO said:
You're entitled to your opinion. High schoolers have been tried as adults before. Throwing bottles at a kid because he's "flamboyant"?

Sure, put them to death. Or worse, sentence them to years of digging through my post history for controversial statements.
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Okay that last line got me weak. This thread is going places.


And I love it.
 
Freezie KO said:
You're entitled to your opinion. High schoolers have been tried as adults before. Throwing bottles at a kid because he's "flamboyant"?

Sure, put them to death. Or worse, sentence them to years of digging through my post history for controversial statements.
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Shots Fired!

Or rather, rocks thrown?

Let He Who Is Without Sin Cast The First Stone.
 
Devolution said:
High school students aren't beyond changing or being taught tolerance. But you'd rather kill them.
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Bullies who attempted murder on someone that was too "flamboyant"? Yeah. Fuck 'em. As stated, high school students have been tried as adults. And they should've, for attempted murder. With several more counts of other assault and battery thrown in. Those kids wouldn't have seen the light of day if I was judge (which, according to GAF, is a great thing).
 
I just thew an empty water bottle at my dog to play with. Gonna hang me?

/I'm poking fun at "throwing bottles" because it has lost all the context.
 
Freezie KO said:
Bullies who attempted murder on someone that was too "flamboyant"? Yeah. Fuck 'em. As stated, high school students have been tried as adults. And they should've, for attempted murder. With several more counts of other assault and battery thrown in. Those kids wouldn't have seen the light of day if I was judge (which, according to GAF, is a great thing).
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Throwing rocks and bottles isn't attempted murder and as mad as I am at such violence you are seriously over exaggerating here. Putting people to death for physical bullying rather than educating them and their peers? You're serious?
 
Freezie KO said:
You're entitled to your opinion. High schoolers have been tried as adults before. Throwing bottles at a kid because he's "flamboyant"?

Sure, put them to death. Or worse, sentence them to years of digging through my post history for controversial statements.
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As are you of course, but I just don't think you really, fully understand the consequences of what you're proposing. You're putting to death people for harassing someone, although it's incredibly hurtful and even dangerous in this situation.

There are other ways though. Jail, for one, restraining orders as another. Maybe instead of just killing people like this, it'd be better to try and teach them why what they are doing is so wrong. I know it's not as "quick and easy" of a solution just writing them off and having them just eliminated, but it's just not realistic, and even if it was, it's not right.

I think when people propose these kinds of ideas, they don't realize that these are still people. They may be complete dickhead assholes, and they most likely are, but killing them as punishment isn't the answer. Not to mention people change and grow up.
 
Jim E. Rossler said:
Freezie KO, known opponent of the 5th amendment and Due process, calls for heads of teenagers in raging vigilante bloodlust
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This thread is retarded.

All of it, seriously.

I'm not even offended by the joke, that was just some shitty execution, and now the cat fight between Freezie and some guy with a meme for a name makes it even worse (also, keep digging that hole Freezie).

I will say though, fuckin sick ass burn from Rossler.
 
Devolution said:
Throwing rocks and bottles isn't attempted murder and as mad as I am at such violence you are seriously over exaggerating here. Putting people to death for physical bullying rather than educating them and their peers? You're serious?
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If a bottle or rock hits someone in the head, it can kill them.

As a blanket policy, I am opposed to the death penalty. Only because our justice system is imperfect (and potentially racist), so I don't think it's good policy.

But in a hypothetical situation where I have 100% certainty of what these bullies did, and that this student actually contemplated suicide as the article states, and that he felt so endangered he needed to bring a stun gun to his high school? Yeah. I stand by what I said.

I'll trade six high school bullies to not get another Tyler Clementi.

Izick said:
As are you of course, but I just don't think you really, fully understand the consequences of what you're proposing. You're putting to death people for harassing someone, although it's incredibly hurtful and even dangerous in this situation.

There are other ways though. Jail, for one, restraining orders as another. Maybe instead of just killing people like this, it'd be better to try and teach them why what they are doing is so wrong. I know it's not as "quick and easy" of a solution just writing them off and having them just eliminated, but it's just not realistic, and even if it was, it's not right.

I think when people propose these kinds of ideas, they don't realize that these are still people. They may be complete dickhead assholes, and they most likely are, but killing them as punishment isn't the answer. Not to mention people change and grow up.
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When you say it's not realistic, you're absolutely correct. I'm talking about what I perceive as actual justice, which is what my original post said. I'm talking more about an isolated incident in which I have 100% certainty.

Contrary to popular belief, I didn't actually write a treatise against the 5th amendment. As a point of fact, I wouldn't recommend this as a blanket policy. But would I see those kids' deaths as justice? Yes. As realistic policy that should be implemented? No.
 
There's something about these kinds of threads where someone gets super defensive, is in a 1 vs 10 argument, and normally banned.

It's usually an over sensitive OP that had the thread backfire.
 
Freezie KO said:
If a bottle or rock hits someone in the head, it can kill them.

As a blanket policy, I am opposed to the death penalty. Only because our justice system is imperfect (and potentially racist), so I don't think it's good policy.

But in a hypothetical situation where I have 100% certainty of what these bullies did, and that this student actually contemplated suicide as the article states, and that he felt so endangered he needed to bring a stun gun to his high school? Yeah. I stand by what I said.

I'll trade six high school bullies to not get another Tyler Clementi.

When you say it's not realistic, you're absolutely correct. I'm talking about what I perceive as actual justice, which is what my original post said. I'm talking more about an isolated incident in which I have 100% certainty.

Contrary to popular belief, I didn't actually write a treatise against the 5th amendment. As a point of fact, I wouldn't recommend this as a blanket policy. But would I see those kids' deaths as justice? Yes. As realistic policy that should be implemented? No.
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So you want to inflict further pain on these kid's friends, parents, family and the school when they could easily go to prison and be rehabilitated if given the chance. You might want to rethink what justice and a decent society entails.
 
Devolution said:
So you want to inflict further pain on these kid's friends, parents, family and the school when they could easily go to prison and be rehabilitated if given the chance. You might want to rethink what justice and a decent society entails.
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I made no claims towards "decent society." Only justice. And I wish I had your faith in rehabilitation, but I don't.

djsandman said:
Just let it go Freezie KO, you got burn-of-the-year burned.
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From a time commitment standpoint, sure. You're right. I'm bordering on the amount of time spent digging up that post in the first place.

But if I get tagged with a link to a post I agree with, I'm okay with that. I mean, if you're going to say I'm a bloodthirsty reactionary towards bullying homosexual students, then guilty as charged.
 
Devolution said:
So you want to inflict further pain on these kid's friends, parents, family and the school when they could easily go to prison and be rehabilitated if given the chance. You might want to rethink what justice and a decent society entails.
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Of course, Devo. Fuck the consequences, people can't change. In fact let's kill their families too, they're related to the satan-spawn, that's close enough. Teenagers aren't stupid shits, they're full-blown adults with decades of life experience.
 
Freezie KO said:
When you say it's not realistic, you're absolutely correct. I'm talking about what I perceive as actual justice, which is what my original post said. I'm talking more about an isolated incident in which I have 100% certainty.

Contrary to popular belief, I didn't actually write a treatise against the 5th amendment. As a point of fact, I wouldn't recommend this as a blanket policy. But would I see those kids' deaths as justice? Yes. As realistic policy that should be implemented? No.
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What will killing these two solve? You will inadvertently put the blood of these two on the hands of the one being bullied, whether you like it or not. The victim may not feel bad about it then, but down the road? Maybe. These people are vicious and sick, but they are still people. It's not worth the risk in that regard, but that's just part of the reason why it's just not right. It's not justice.

I would rather try and reach them through some sort of counseling or something, and even then you could just have a restraining order and have them out of the kid's life. Taking two people's lives for bullying isn't the answer. As cliche as it is, two wrongs don't make a right.
 
Freezie KO said:
I made no claims towards "decent society." Only justice. And I wish I had your faith in rehabilitation, but I don't.
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Do you always go through situations in life with absolutely no mercy?

What those kids did is pretty bad, but snuffing out decades away from them because of stupid shit they did?
 
Izick said:
What will killing these two solve? You will inadvertently put the blood of these two on the hands of the one being bullied, whether you like it or not. The victim may not feel bad about it then, but down the road? Maybe. These people are vicious and sick, but they are still people. It's not worth the risk in that regard, but that's just part of the reason why it's just not right. It's not justice.

I would rather try and reach them through some sort of counseling or something, and even then you could just have a restraining order and have them out of the kid's life. Taking two people's lives for bullying isn't the answer. As cliche as it is, two wrongs don't make a right.
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Bolded is what it boils down to. You instinctually feel it's not right. I feel it is.

Counseling and restraining orders don't guarantee they won't do this again.
 
DeathNote said:
Freezie entered Freezie KO mode and is super salty.
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In fairness, I'm trying to defend a one line post while dozens of people post gifs about how I was burned or owned.

I'm just trying to clarify what I mean. So if someone is going to have an impression of me (if they read the posts instead of searching for more .gifs), at least it's the right one.

MormaPope said:
Do you always go through situations in life with absolutely no mercy?

What those kids did is pretty bad, but snuffing out decades away from them because of stupid shit they did?
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I'm not really confronted with such situations in life. But if I read a story about a kid getting bottles thrown at his head, sure, my reaction is not a kind one.
 
Freezie KO said:
If a bottle or rock hits someone in the head, it can kill them.

As a blanket policy, I am opposed to the death penalty. Only because our justice system is imperfect (and potentially racist), so I don't think it's good policy.

But in a hypothetical situation where I have 100% certainty of what these bullies did, and that this student actually contemplated suicide as the article states, and that he felt so endangered he needed to bring a stun gun to his high school? Yeah. I stand by what I said.

I'll trade six high school bullies to not get another Tyler Clementi.



When you say it's not realistic, you're absolutely correct. I'm talking about what I perceive as actual justice, which is what my original post said. I'm talking more about an isolated incident in which I have 100% certainty.

Contrary to popular belief, I didn't actually write a treatise against the 5th amendment. As a point of fact, I wouldn't recommend this as a blanket policy. But would I see those kids' deaths as justice? Yes. As realistic policy that should be implemented? No.
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If we're making trades then I'd trade you for Satoshi Kon IMO TBH.


Freezie KO said:
In fairness, I'm trying to defend a one line post while dozens of people post gifs about how I was burned or owned.

I'm just trying to clarify what I mean. So if someone is going to have an impression of me (if they read the posts instead of searching for more .gifs), at least it's the right one.



I'm not really confronted with such situations in life. But if I read a story about a kid getting bottles thrown at his head, sure, my reaction is not a kind one.
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you're clarifying that you really want to kill people is what you're clarifying and I think the message is getting through.
 
Freezie KO said:
In fairness, I'm trying to defend a one line post while dozens of people post gifs about how I was burned or owned.

I'm just trying to clarify what I mean. So if someone is going to have an impression of me (if they read the posts instead of searching for more .gifs), at least it's the right one.
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I'm pretty sure most ITT are getting the impression you're irrational
 
I wouldn't even sweat it tbh Freezie. The amount of replies you're getting is off the scale. Lol.

From a joke thread to a let's prove a point against Freezie thread. You're famous mang.
 
Oh c'mon. I knew something was up when I read the OP. At first I thought he was talking about RDR or something (since I haven't played RDR). I mean, walking around with a gun in a holster? Who the fuck does that? Almost nobody, and especially not a gaffer.

I've only seen that once, and I'm pretty sure the guy was a plan-clothes officer. (Saw the guy carrying in church, back when I was religious. I was like ha, only in Louisiana.)
 
IrishNinja said:
freezie there's no way im reading all of that as a salvage post man
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Hey, I can only try. At least you're honest about it. :)

MormaPope said:
Permanently stopping them won't make it so it won't happen again to other people.
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Right. The original quoted "burn" post was about my sense of justice. It does not stop it from occurring to others. For that, you need education programs and anti-bullying campaigns.

But for this situation, snuffing them out feels right. Saying that doesn't mean I oppose education campaigns.

Izick said:
Then you step it up to jail time. You can't go from 0 to 60 on this.
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I mean, you can. You just don't because our society has deemed it "wrong." I think bullying like this can scar a person for life, or even cause that person to take their life, like Tyler Clementi. I don't think six of these bullies' lives are worth a single day of worry for the person being picked on.
 
makingmusic476 said:
Oh c'mon. I knew something was up when I read the OP. At first I thought he was talking about RDR or something (since I haven't played RDR). I mean, walking around with a gun in a holster? Who the fuck does that? Almost nobody, and especially not a gaffer.

I've only seen that once, and I'm pretty sure the guy was a plan-clothes officer. (Saw the guy carrying in church, back when I was religious. I was like ha, only in Louisiana.)
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DayZ's the name of the game. Masked men are bandits and they stole his 1911.
 
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