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HeadlessRoland said:
In related news I did i fact lost my TA lab position, with possible ramifications towards financial aid... I will burn that bridge when I get it.


I smell a lawsuit. Whatever you do don't sign anything from their insurance company. I hope the recovery goes well.
 
HeadlessRoland said:
You do not want to arbitrate the case personally, hahaha. I have a close friend who is also a retired judge/lawyer that is going to be act as my champion in the lawyer filtering (in fact choosing proper counsel can be more important than the facts.

That said I would be amazed if my medical bills are not already 200k+.

How did you make friends with a retired judge?
 
Get well man. I sorry that you got hurt, but this thread is pretty awesome. Your attitude is great and you're making me rethink some of my own troubles and realize they're just small potatoes in the grand scheme. So thanks for that! And props to you for keeping that pimp hand strong.
 
jaxword said:
How did you make friends with a retired judge?

Grew up with his son. Was good friends with the family before he was a lawyer he then went on to be elected as a judge. Great guy and would go out of his way to help out his son's friends

Edit: I keep forgetting to thank everyone for their good wishes! Thanks guys/gals the good will here and all the old friends i haven't seen in forever stopping by the hospital and my home lately have really brightened my day. Id stay positive regardless of environment but good people sure as fuck make it easier to deal.
 
Quick early update. First doctor appointment is in a few hours. Getting the staples removed, past few days been pretty rough. Ive had a 100 degree temp (at 101 was told to call an ambulance) and the pain is if anything increasing. And the degree of pain medication they gave me is absolutely fucking ridiculous. 10mg of percocet every 4 hours?! I got a script for some unmixed percocet to supplement until the appointment today.

Also my right knee has been about 3 times the size it should be since the accident. The swelling is not going down, the leg itself is significantly weaker than the other and the muscles will spasm out in a very weird manner. I fear there is something very amiss with it.

I should be getting a CD with the training/demonstration of the reconstruction of my spine on it! hopefully it will be in a format so I can share it all with you. I have been receiving visits and calls from tons of my friends I haven't seen in years, its been really awesome. Fucking tow truck company is attempting to extort me for 800$ (and increasing) for my 2,000$ scooter. How in the name of fuck its legal to impound my scooter when I was a victim, charge me fees for storage as I am laid up with a broken spine, and then threaten to charge me with "abandoning my vehicle" is beyond me. Guess I will get to figure that out today.

One good thing about all the free time I now have is that I have been meditating several hours a day (granted with a vested interested in accelerating my recovery). So I guess that is another upside to this Greek tragedy.

Will update this post/thread after I get back and find out whats what. Just praying for little nerve damage!
 
Oh man, what an ordeal. I'm honestly sorry that things aren't yet 100% for you but hopefully you'll pull through and the pain will be gone.

I hope you get well soon and ideally the doctor will up your pain medication.
 
Ok so I have this CD and peripheral software to load it showing my spine in contrast to all other of my bodies systems. Its pretty fucking badass, I just have to figure out how to capture images from it and I am set.

So the Doctors explained my injury to me a bit. Basically my spine was broken entirely in half with the spinal cord 100% exposed. They said not only is the injury itself impressive but that I am still alive and not crippled is astounding. Even the rate of healing of my incidental injuries (incision for surgery,bruising,ribs,lung) is astounding. While i have no objective evidence I attribute most of this to my daily practice of meditation since the injury (I normally meditate daily but not nearly to the extent I have been). Which I must say does brighten my day a bit, haha. The removal of the staples was also a perverse pleasure. Foreign bits of nasty coming out almost like popping a pimple.

Bad news is that I cannot even begin physical therapy for 3 months. Full recovery will be over a year and I am at high risk for eternal chronic pain. After my awakening to the grimy nature of hospitals and related health-care professions, my inability to complete my education due to my injuries I am taking as a sign that wasn't the path for me.

Heavily contemplating selling the house, settling the insurance shit and just casting myself into the wind and wandering around for a few years. Maybe purchasing a motorcycle and loading it up with my hiking/camping gear and taking off in a random direction.
 
HeadlessRoland said:
Ok so I have this CD and peripheral software to load it showing my spine in contrast to all other of my bodies systems. Its pretty fucking badass, I just have to figure out how to capture images from it and I am set.

So the Doctors explained my injury to me a bit. Basically my spine was broken entirely in half with the spinal cord 100% exposed. They said not only is the injury itself impressive but that I am still alive and not crippled is astounding. Even the rate of healing of my incidental injuries (incision for surgery,bruising,ribs,lung) is astounding. While i have no objective evidence I attribute most of this to my daily practice of meditation since the injury (I normally meditate daily but not nearly to the extent I have been). Which I must say does brighten my day a bit, haha. The removal of the staples was also a perverse pleasure. Foreign bits of nasty coming out almost like popping a pimple.

Bad news is that I cannot even begin physical therapy for 3 months. Full recovery will be over a year and I am at high risk for eternal chronic pain. After my awakening to the grimy nature of hospitals and related health-care professions, my inability to complete my education due to my injuries I am taking as a sign that wasn't the path for me.

Heavily contemplating selling the house, settling the insurance shit and just casting myself into the wind and wandering around for a few years. Maybe purchasing a motorcycle and loading it up with my hiking/camping gear and taking off in a random direction.

i would stretch out the insurance part. ensure you're getting enough money to take care of yourself down the road, if you are at risk for chronic pain.

or move to canada.
 
HeadlessRoland said:
Ok so I have this CD and peripheral software to load it showing my spine in contrast to all other of my bodies systems. Its pretty fucking badass, I just have to figure out how to capture images from it and I am set.

So the Doctors explained my injury to me a bit. Basically my spine was broken entirely in half with the spinal cord 100% exposed. They said not only is the injury itself impressive but that I am still alive and not crippled is astounding. Even the rate of healing of my incidental injuries (incision for surgery,bruising,ribs,lung) is astounding. While i have no objective evidence I attribute most of this to my daily practice of meditation since the injury (I normally meditate daily but not nearly to the extent I have been). Which I must say does brighten my day a bit, haha. The removal of the staples was also a perverse pleasure. Foreign bits of nasty coming out almost like popping a pimple.

Bad news is that I cannot even begin physical therapy for 3 months. Full recovery will be over a year and I am at high risk for eternal chronic pain. After my awakening to the grimy nature of hospitals and related health-care professions, my inability to complete my education due to my injuries I am taking as a sign that wasn't the path for me.

Heavily contemplating selling the house, settling the insurance shit and just casting myself into the wind and wandering around for a few years. Maybe purchasing a motorcycle and loading it up with my hiking/camping gear and taking off in a random direction.

That really sucks man. Get well soon. I hope that ladies insurance policy has high limits. You'll need them. Problem is I can almost assure you they won't be high enough to even come close to covering your healthcare costs. Do you have your own health insurance?
 
mcrae said:
i would stretch out the insurance part. ensure you're getting enough money to take care of yourself down the road, if you are at risk for chronic pain.

or move to canada.

Basically whatever their limit is I will easily be awarded it. And if the limit is low I can easily sue and win whatever I want. Blatantly her fault, witnesses, extensive permanent damage to myself, nasty ass images of the damage etc.

Ambulance chasers wet dream.

Problem is I can almost assure you they won't be high enough to even come close to covering your healthcare costs.

Multiple lawyers have told me that any settlement would automatically default for my own injuries first before paying anything to healthcare. i have some pissant student health insurance through college, but its almost nonexistent (just liability so I can intern).
 
mcrae said:
i would stretch out the insurance part. ensure you're getting enough money to take care of yourself down the road, if you are at risk for chronic pain.

or move to canada.
jesus don't move here because of the perceived 'free' healthcare. you'll regret it immediately. move here because it's cold as fuck but we have nice looking women, good beer and a lot of parties because there is SFA to do when it's cold as fuck outside.
 
Well I live in Washington State so B.C. is essentially my back yard! Think id move to South America somewhere where I could live off 500k (house+settlement) would stretch a bit further. I am just happy there is minimal nerve damage to be honest. Everything else (pain!) I can adapt to on my own.
 
HeadlessRoland said:
Well I live in Washington State so B.C. is essentially my back yard! Think id move to South America somewhere where I could live off 500k (house+settlement) would stretch a bit further. I am just happy there is minimal nerve damage to be honest. Everything else (pain!) I can adapt to on my own.
If you really want to move to South America, you're welcome to come to Medellín, Colombia. I can hook you up with the locals and maybe even help you get a job depending on what you're looking for.
 
HeadlessRoland said:
Basically whatever their limit is I will easily be awarded it. And if the limit is low I can easily sue and win whatever I want. Blatantly her fault, witnesses, extensive permanent damage to myself, nasty ass images of the damage etc.

Ambulance chasers wet dream.

Well, that's going to come down to a "trying to get blood from a stone" type of situation most likely. Even if you get a settlement, the chances of seeing any of it are slim unfortunately. I wish the best for you though. I just see it too often in my line of work.


Multiple lawyers have told me that any settlement would automatically default for my own injuries first before paying anything to healthcare. i have some pissant student health insurance through college, but its almost nonexistent (just liability so I can intern).

If true then hell yeah. Unfortunately even if the settlement goes to you that doesn't make your mountain of bills go away. :(
 
daw840 said:
Well, that's going to come down to a "trying to get blood from a stone" type of situation most likely. Even if you get a settlement, the chances of seeing any of it are slim unfortunately. I wish the best for you though. I just see it too often in my line of work.

Policy holder is an officer in the military. Chick who ran me over was is daughter (maybe gf I guess). You will get discharged from the military for not paying your debts. So barring a career change I think me being paid is very likely. Still no info on the policy amount. I contacted them to get my scooter out of the tow yard, the chick had yet to file a claim with them. Claims adjusted will contact me tommorow, well rather my lawyer since its now time to load for bear.

If true then hell yeah. Unfortunately even if the settlement goes to you that doesn't make your mountain of bills go away.

Apparently my bills are already being addressed by some deal related to me being a student and the religious nature of the hospital I went to. I assumed they had contacted the chicks insurance company but apparently that did not occur.

Take my check and go off the grid!

If you really want to move to South America, you're welcome to come to Medellín, Colombia. I can hook you up with the locals and maybe even help you get a job depending on what you're looking for.

If I take off I will certainly wander around down that way. This is all distant hypothetical at the moment. Regardless of what happens I will still be stuck here for 3-6 months. The events of today have left me rather optimistic tho.
 
HeadlessRoland said:
Policy holder is an officer in the military. Chick who ran me over was is daughter (maybe gf I guess). You will get discharged from the military for not paying your debts. So barring a career change I think me being paid is very likely. Still no info on the policy amount. I contacted them to get my scooter out of the tow yard, the chick had yet to file a claim with them. Claims adjusted will contact me tommorow, well rather my lawyer since its now time to load for bear.
Well, hopefully she's under 18, then he is culpable for what she does. Which is good news for you. Even if he is the policy holder, that doesn't mean you can sue him personally for negligence done by another adult driver on his policy I don't think. However, the good thing is that the limits are probably pretty high in that case if he has good USAA insurance.

Apparently my bills are already being addressed by some deal related to me being a student and the religious nature of the hospital I went to. I assumed they had contacted the chicks insurance company but apparently that did not occur.
Hopefully this works out.
 
Your school will obviously let you take a few terms off. Just sit and think and study other potential options. I wouldn't go into medicine either after such an injury but don't drop out of school and think about becoming a wanderer or whatever. You have a good opportunity here to make a big push into another path, see what else interests you.
 
daw840 said:
Even if he is the policy holder, that doesn't mean you can sue him personally for negligence done by another adult driver on his policy I don't think. However, the good thing is that the limits are probably pretty high in that case if he has good USAA insurance.

Yeah, it is USAA but no idea on the policy limits. And you can certainly sue the parents for the actions of the child or rather you sue them all collectively. But I find that distasteful so probably would not. In fact I feel rather bad knowing the poor kid is so young. She just turned 18 and was so terrified when she shattered my poor body. Is USAA a good provider?


Hopefully this works out.

I survived it already has!

Your school will obviously let you take a few terms off. Just sit and think and study other potential options. I wouldn't go into medicine either after such an injury but don't drop out of school and think about becoming a wanderer or whatever. You have a good opportunity here to make a big push into another path, see what else interests you.

For reference I am a 31 year old dude, owns a house yadda yadda. I just learned that school is required by law to make accommodations for my injuries. But basically I wont be able to attend till next quarter.

I was sticking around to complete school and become a nurse and then specialize in one of the higher branches or maybe a PA. But now the experience has ruined my boner over those professions. And while money was a factor it was secondary. Not sure what I want to do. I went back to school to get some order into my life, but now my perspective has changed.

Even if I get nothing from the insurance I still do not know what I will do. Maybe use the cash to go the distance in a less marketable but more personally enjoyable field. I just don't know fear of debt was a big factor in me picking a field.
 
HeadlessRoland said:
Yeah, it is USAA but no idea on the policy limits. And you can certainly sue the parents for the actions of the child or rather you sue them all collectively. But I find that distasteful so probably would not. In fact I feel rather bad knowing the poor kid is so young. She just turned 18 and was so terrified when she shattered my poor body. Is USAA a good provider?

AFAIK, USAA is a good provider. I would assume the policy holder is established and has high limits if he is an officer, that's a very good sign.

Problem with suing them is she's not a minor anymore. If she was 17 or less then you could go after the parents, now she is legally an adult and responsible for her own actions. You won't get any additional money out of her. That much is almost guaranteed.

I survived it already has!
Way to be positive, good on you!
 
Yeah, my spirits are lifted when I see how amazed everyone is with my mobility and health. Dunno just makes me feel good about myself. I was literally "broken in two" and I am not only alive, but entirely mobile.
 
HeadlessRoland said:
Holy shit dude, it's like you had a hole in your back.

Looks like from now on you'll have to celebrate two birthdays.
 
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Xrays of my new augments.
 
HeadlessRoland said:
Xrays of my new augments.
Haha, your rectum was also full of gas.

And that's your lumbar spine (L3, L4, L5 to be exact) that are pinned.

Better images to post would be the "before" ones.
 
hockeypuck said:
Haha, your rectum was also full of gas.

And that's your lumbar spine (L3, L4, L5 to be exact) that are pinned.

Better images to post would be the "before" ones.

Dude, the process of taking my first shit at the hospital almost fucking killed me. It is described earlier in the thread, worse than the back injury. I will get the be fores in the next couple of days also the 3d model deal with the program to load it. He said I was literally "broken in half" he described it in detail pointing at the 3d model. Twisting motion causing the interlocking things on the cork-spring and fly around (haha I cant remember).
 
HeadlessRoland said:
Dude, the process of taking my first shit at the hospital almost fucking killed me. It is described earlier in the thread, worse than the back injury. I will get the be fores in the next couple of days also the 3d model deal with the program to load it. He said I was literally "broken in half" he described it in detail pointing at the 3d model. Twisting motion causing the interlocking things on the cork-spring and fly around (haha I cant remember).

USAA is a very good provider, I have them. You cannot hold an insurance policy with them unless you are military or have an immediate family member who is/was military. An officer's daughter ran you over, huh? Well officers make good money so you'll probably be fine, financially. Besides, failure to pay debts would result in UCMJ action...

I am really sorry to hear what happened to you, man those X-rays looks rough. Hope you have a speedy recovery. Best wishes!
 
Esiquio said:
USAA is a very good provider, I have them. You cannot hold an insurance policy with them unless you are military or have an immediate family member who is/was military. An officer's daughter ran you over, huh? Well officers make good money so you'll probably be fine, financially. Besides, failure to pay debts would result in UCMJ action...

Yeah, this is exactly what I was aware of. But now in new information casts a doubt if its the officers daughter. The man with the same last name,address as the chick who ran me over is 46, the chick is 18, so I guess it could be his wife or daughter. BUT the girl did not report the incident to her insurance provider leading me to believe it would be a daughter. The man also apparently races cars across the US and Europe leading me to believe his policy would be uber fat.

Thanks for the good wishes everyone. I am basically going to be on house arrest for the next three months, I am not looking forward to it.
 
HeadlessRoland said:
Dude, the process of taking my first shit at the hospital almost fucking killed me. It is described earlier in the thread, worse than the back injury. I will get the be fores in the next couple of days also the 3d model deal with the program to load it. He said I was literally "broken in half" he described it in detail pointing at the 3d model. Twisting motion causing the interlocking things on the cork-spring and fly around (haha I cant remember).


I can't even begin to kow what your going through , however i hurniated my l5 disc and taking a shit was easily the most horrible experiance ever. I prayed for death the first time i had to go.
 
eastmen said:
I can't even begin to kow what your going through , however i hurniated my l5 disc and taking a shit was easily the most horrible experiance ever. I prayed for death the first time i had to go.

Honestly my shit looks way worse than it is. But shitting has been an ongoing struggle of pain. I seriously feel fear when I think about what will happen if I dont shit in the next day or two. And I am chugging milk of magnesia, have stool softener script and have a large jug of good prune juice. And I still cannot keep regular.
 
THE NO LIFE KING said:
Wishing the best for you dude. Hope everything works out for the best for your sake.

Why thank you sir. Ignoring the serendipity of shattering my spine on the exact day I begin my new TA position and am in the final stretch of beginning my career I think its worked out pretty damn good for me. Not only do I survive an injury that would likely kill someone, I have survived it with all abilities intact. With an ever increasingly likelihood that I am going to get paid some real money in compensation.

And as weird as it sounds having a challenge like this (mountains of pain to overcome!) thrust upon me is kind of neat. Life gets pretty tedious sometimes but now pretty much every moment is focused on something worthwhile.

I swear the struggle to maintain regular shitting is more painful and tiresome than hauling my broken ass out of bed every morning (pain meds almost out of system my entire body aches). I also noticed something real odd, I have gained 10lbs since I was shattered. and I have eaten basically a meal or two a day of fruit,jello etc. Not sure whats going on there.
 
HeadlessRoland said:
Why thank you sir. Ignoring the serendipity of shattering my spine on the exact day I begin my new TA position and am in the final stretch of beginning my career I think its worked out pretty damn good for me. Not only do I survive an injury that would likely kill someone, I have survived it with all abilities intact. With an ever increasingly likelihood that I am going to get paid some real money in compensation.

And as weird as it sounds having a challenge like this (mountains of pain to overcome!) thrust upon me is kind of neat. Life gets pretty tedious sometimes but now pretty much every moment is focused on something worthwhile.

I swear the struggle to maintain regular shitting is more painful and tiresome than hauling my broken ass out of bed every morning (pain meds almost out of system my entire body aches). I also noticed something real odd, I have gained 10lbs since I was shattered. and I have eaten basically a meal or two a day of fruit,jello etc. Not sure whats going on there.

Titanium is heavy stuff man!
 
Just got back from the ER, right leg swelled to about 200% its normal size. There was some concern about deep vein thrombosis (blood clot). Apparently its all good and I am back at home. I don't think they fully appreciate the pain and effort required to haul my ass in there.
 
HeadlessRoland said:
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6167/6218439045_12fde28753_b.jpg

Xrays of my new augments.

FUCKING HANZER! PURITY FIRST!

will not make sense if you haven't played Deus Ex HR
 
HeadlessRoland said:
For reference I am a 31 year old dude, owns a house yadda yadda. I just learned that school is required by law to make accommodations for my injuries. But basically I wont be able to attend till next quarter.

I was sticking around to complete school and become a nurse and then specialize in one of the higher branches or maybe a PA. But now the experience has ruined my boner over those professions. And while money was a factor it was secondary. Not sure what I want to do. I went back to school to get some order into my life, but now my perspective has changed.

Even if I get nothing from the insurance I still do not know what I will do. Maybe use the cash to go the distance in a less marketable but more personally enjoyable field. I just don't know fear of debt was a big factor in me picking a field.

I had a similar experience in a hospital where I had a collapsed lung and the pain and confusion of what was going on made me forever soured on going into a medical field. It also left me very angry and socially withdrawn for a couple years too so that's just why I say don't completely change your life plan, at least not in the near-future. Doing whatever makes you happy is obviously the best idea though.
 
Crumpet Trumpet said:
Damn man! I know we had some issues in that one thread, but I really do wish you a speedy recovery.

Thanks! I like to argue and rarely do I really am immune to getting my feelers hurt. I sometimes forget that its not always possible to tell that I am often 50% joking around when I debate something. *hugs*

I just cant figure out what possible motivation the chicks insurance company can have in being so rude and confrontational to me. I was more than willing to negotiating in good faith and they have basically made this impossible. I notified them of the scooter sitting in the towing yard accruing fee's that they are going to be responsible for. Probably saving them a potential 1000+ dollars. And the adjustor responds with, "Well why cant you go take care of the fee's and transportation?" Because my fucking spine is broken and I physically cannot do so!

My independent research is increasingly leading me to believe the guy has a monster policy. And he is military so he cannot just blow off a judgement against him, army will boot your ass for that. I fear getting my hopes up for the universe itself has apparently declared war on my incontinent ass! A meteor will destroy my home or a mountain will erupt or something.

I have been meditating an excessive amount both to moderate the pain but also to moderate my mood. My dreams have been getting more and more vivid and ive been able to slip into a hypnogogic state on whim. Getting near the point where dreams and meditation sort of merge together and create this strange synergy and feeling in the meat world. Think I am going to start to keep a dream diary again. I used to many years ago but I smoked weed on/off for many years and weed dampens my dreams and recall so I stopped keeping one.

On a negative note the pain is increasing and not decreasing as I heal. And from what ive been told I am at a high risk for chronic back pain for this type of injury. I hope I can piece together a way to cope with it so I can avoid opiate addiction ( a passing but serious concern).

I am not sure about the rules towards me making such huge posts in this thread (basically using it as a blog). Id appreciate it immensely if I could be warned! I have already used up my supply of temp bans!
 
HeadlessRoland said:
Just got back from the ER, right leg swelled to about 200% its normal size. There was some concern about deep vein thrombosis (blood clot). Apparently its all good and I am back at home. I don't think they fully appreciate the pain and effort required to haul my ass in there.

Did you learn anything about how to prevent clots?
 
jaxword said:
Did you learn anything about how to prevent clots?

They told me nothing directly. But before this occurred I had done a little research. While in the hospital I would periodically have these pulsing pressure bands around my legs for a few hours at a time and I also walked around a good deal. Beyond this I have no idea. Blood thinner would be another way to prevent it?
 
HeadlessRoland said:
They told me nothing directly. But before this occurred I had done a little research. While in the hospital I would periodically have these pulsing pressure bands around my legs for a few hours at a time and I also walked around a good deal. Beyond this I have no idea. Blood thinner would be another way to prevent it?

On a different tangent, what can you recommend for anyone else if they ever get into an accident? I have no idea what I'd do if I suddenly found myself lying on the road with a twisted metal box beside me. I'd probably panic, and I'd rather learn not to do that.
 
jaxword said:
On a different tangent, what can you recommend for anyone else if they ever get into an accident? I have no idea what I'd do if I suddenly found myself lying on the road with a twisted metal box beside me. I'd probably panic, and I'd rather learn not to do that.


Do not attempt to move unless the environment poses a greater risk than potential injury caused by moving (cars on fire). The doctors were at a loss to explain my total lack of nerve damage but they all agreed if I had moved I would have suffered extreme damage/died. Do a little mental checklist with your body, can you feel fingers and toes etc. My accident was lacking a twisted metal box, merely a dented car/scooter and a twisted me.

Up till this point I had never been seriously injured, no broken bones. Just moderate tissue damage requiring stitches, so I cant really help. Just keep your head and resist panic/fear. Everyone handles stress differently. No way to really know how you handle it till put into the position.
 
Hardly have to worry about all this insurance stuff in australia, thank god.

Can't get your vehicle registered without 3rd party insurance. You aren't covered, but if you hit anyone they are covered

None of this shit headless is facing is even a contest. He is instantly covered by her car being on the road. You take out insurance to cover yourself, not others, that is done by registering your car.
 
seanoff said:
Hardly have to worry about all this insurance stuff in australia, thank god.

Can't get your vehicle registered without 3rd party insurance. You aren't covered, but if you hit anyone they are covered

None of this shit headless is facing is even a contest. He is instantly covered by her car being on the road. You take out insurance to cover yourself, not others, that is done by registering your car.

This isn't an issue of coverage. Most places in the US require cars to be insured.

Insurance companies just don't want to pay out and will try to make the settlement as low as possible.
 
Zoe said:
This isn't an issue of coverage. Most places in the US require cars to be insured.

Insurance companies just don't want to pay out and will try to make the settlement as low as possible.

Indeed, combined with the fucked up healthcare in the US. Where basically any serious injury will automatically be more expensive than anyone can afford independently. I havent seen a bill yet but its almost certain to be in the hundreds of thousands dollar mark. And even at that price point the care I received was still second class due to me being an uninsured peasant whose life isn't as valuable as an insured man.

Hospital basically forced me out WAY before they should have (granted I facilitated this). I am so drugged up I cant remember if I talked about just how shady they were (probably creeping up to the point of violating law). The aura of a hospital is the antithesis of healing.
 
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