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i wish we could get some games with complex stories like Tenet , inception , dune
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fran.fernandez
Member
No no no
Simple stories , deep characters
Simple stories , deep characters
PhaseJump
Banned
I Have No Mouth, and I Must Scream.
It's based on Harlan Ellison's work, and he was one of the biggest authors of the 20th century.
Shut0wen
Member
Honestly never played the previous
anothertech
Member
Tenet?
lolol let's crash an airplane into a museum to steal a fake painting I'm being blackmailed with so we can save the future from global warming.
Ace tier writing there friend.
lolol let's crash an airplane into a museum to steal a fake painting I'm being blackmailed with so we can save the future from global warming.
Ace tier writing there friend.
You only saw the movie?
The Cockatrice
Gold Member
Im pretty sure he meant complex and GOOD, not obtuse and stupid.
kyliethicc
Member
They weren't trying to steal a painting.
They weren't being blackmailed.
Has nothing to do with global warming.
They were trying to access a vault to discover what was inside.
Turns out it was a turnstable.
They were trying to prevent nuclear apocalypse.
Turns out it was a turnstable.
They were trying to prevent nuclear apocalypse.
Just because you don't understand the story doesn't mean its bad.
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jm89
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13 sentinels was amazing. Even after I finished it, I was going through the story logs to figure out alot of the stuff that happened.
hyperbertha
Member
surprised nobody's mentioned persona 5 or the entire persona series in general.
gaming_again
Member
Persona 5 plays with some principles behind psychoanalysis in a really enjoyable way but I’m not sure I’d say it’s a great story.
Puscifer
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hyperbertha
Member
Also I don't get this movie craze. The vast majority of movies are extremely predictable shallow, and very factory made. No avenger movie has ever come close to a good story. And even when they adapt from a good novel, they need to cut out a lot from the source to fit the time limit. Most rpgs I've played beat the majority of movies.
Rhazkul
Member
I prefer gameplay and couldn't care less about the story. That doesn't mean i occasionally play some narrative-driven games (currently playing LA Noire, amazing story focused game. SOMA is also a good example) but when i game, i wanna game, and when i want a complex story, i just watch a movie or read a book (lol who am i kidding, i don't read books). "Interactive movies" or "Walking Sims" lack in gameplay and gameplay-focused games lack in story, and that's fine for me.
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Bavarian_Sloth
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- Silent Hill 2 (Remake)
- And my favourite game from 1998 regarding your wish:
- And my favourite game from 1998 regarding your wish:
nikolino840
Member
I think sci fi are better for the stories..
Try "observation" and the most recent "signalis"
Try "observation" and the most recent "signalis"
PianistaMacabro
Member
Those movies dont exactly have a complex story but yes, videogames stories are incredibly simplistic and bad created. If you compare games with the good studd from cinema we are sooooo behind
Dragon_Rocks
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Zekra Dezivad
Member
You can't compare the experiences, games lenght requires a different design and approach.
anothertech
Member
This just shows you how bad the writing in that movie is. The future is attacking the past for causing global warming. Almost nobody gets this major plot point because the story telling and writing is trash.
Also the wife of the villain is absolutely being blackmailed by the item in the museum vault. Again, such top tier writing. Nobody understands this shit.
kyliethicc
Member
Nope sorry she isn't being blackmailed anymore that was years ago. And it was her lover not her.
And thats not why the protag was trying to get into the vault.
And no, again, Sator isn't destroying the world cuz of global warming lol
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Imru’ al-Qays
Member
Yasumi Matsuno's three masterworks are good for this: Tactics Ogre, Final Fantasy Tactics, Vagrant Story
anothertech
Member
The ven diagram that is used to puzzle this shit hole plot together says otherwise. What I explained is true. You can look it up.
Why in your understanding is the future attacking the past? The answer is given in the boat scene you can hardly hear when Edward Cullen is explaining to the protagonist what the hell is going on in a shit storm of rain and engine grind.
GymWolf
Member
He said deep, not deeply cringe.
Bulletbrain
Member
I think it's extremely unrealistic to expect Hollywood level writing in video games. Good writing in movies is already hard to come by, but for games to approach that level AND you know, be a good game is asking way too much. Let games be games. Focus on gameplay. On interactivity. On gameplay systems and mechanics. The actual "game" part. Have a serviceable story that compliments the gameplay.
Let games be games.
Let games be games.
Spaceman292
Banned
You know people other than Chris Nolan have made movies too, right?
Hugare
Member
The closest to that we had "recently" was Bioshock Infinite
"Time travel", multiverse "before it was cool", some mindbending revelations and etc.
People here mentioning Horizon or Kingdom Hearts as good examples ... Yikes
Quantum Break tries, but the writing and execution was poor, imo
"Time travel", multiverse "before it was cool", some mindbending revelations and etc.
People here mentioning Horizon or Kingdom Hearts as good examples ... Yikes
Quantum Break tries, but the writing and execution was poor, imo
samoilaaa
Member
ofc i just listed a couple , here are a couple more of my fav
Lord of the rings
Zodiac
The game 1997
Knives out
silence of the lambs
seven
blade runner 2049
prisoners 2013
Gone girl
and many more , it would take me alot to list all the movies that i like
samoilaaa
Member
yeah quantum break had a good story but the problem was with the pacing and some dialog that was kinda dumb , its too bad , the game could have been so much better and remedy put alot of work into it , i read that they hired actual physicists to help with some of the details of how the technology could work
i really hope alan wake 2 will be really great in terms of story
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TheThreadsThatBindUs
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Tenet's story was dogshit. As was its story-telling. It was an awful movie with an interesting premise that failed to stick the landing.
Inception was cool, but the story wasn't complex at all.
There are already many games with multi-layered stories. Not all of them nail their attempt though... same as with movies that attempt it.
Sometimes it's just best to tell a simple story but to do it well then try something multi-layered and fail miserably.
Inception was cool, but the story wasn't complex at all.
There are already many games with multi-layered stories. Not all of them nail their attempt though... same as with movies that attempt it.
Sometimes it's just best to tell a simple story but to do it well then try something multi-layered and fail miserably.
samoilaaa
Member
i understand what you are saying but there is no reason to not have both , i played recently devil may cry 5 and both the gameplay and the story was really good , especially the gameplay
i mostly play rpgs so a good story is important , me personally i cant play a 50 hour rpg if the story is crap , i just cant , i need to care about the characters , their motives to make me move forward , if i dont find the characters interesting then i see no reason to move forward , an example would be AC valhalla , that game could have had the best combat posible , it wouldnt have been enough to make me finish the game with such a dull story and characters
in a game like trine 4 ( i finished it recently ) story isnt very important , i had alot of fun solving puzzles and moving from one level to another , or lets say a game like elden ring where the main focus is the dificulty , become better to beat all the bosses
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The Tourmaline Gorilla
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People really forgot that Remedy exists? Almost everything Sam Lake touches is reminiscent of those complex and engaging, big Hollywood sci-fi, suspense movies...even the story in Alan Wake isn't a "What you see is what you get" type of game; there's much more to it than what's on the surface. Quantum Break might be their biggest game of that type.
Ninja Theory's Hellblade as well. Seems rudimentary on the surface, but by the end, you realise there's a much bigger story there (if you haven't finished it, I won't say what it is, for fear of spoilers), which makes me genuinely intrigued about Hellblade 2.
There are a few writers that can give us that Christopher Nolan-esque experience, albeit more watered down. But, I think eventually, something will give us the Nolan parallel and maybe even up the ante. Soma was really good too. And of course, Kojima has the chops for this sort of thing as well. Their story-telling isn't on Nolan's level though, but I think that might be due to the sheer nature of video games being video games. I think Quantum Break comes closest. If you haven't played it yet, play it!
Ninja Theory's Hellblade as well. Seems rudimentary on the surface, but by the end, you realise there's a much bigger story there (if you haven't finished it, I won't say what it is, for fear of spoilers), which makes me genuinely intrigued about Hellblade 2.
There are a few writers that can give us that Christopher Nolan-esque experience, albeit more watered down. But, I think eventually, something will give us the Nolan parallel and maybe even up the ante. Soma was really good too. And of course, Kojima has the chops for this sort of thing as well. Their story-telling isn't on Nolan's level though, but I think that might be due to the sheer nature of video games being video games. I think Quantum Break comes closest. If you haven't played it yet, play it!
R6Rider
Gold Member
I remember playing this at a friends house years ago.
I only just realized this was one the Xbox Store last night. Might pick it up on a sale.
NeoIkaruGAF
Gold Member
Xenogears has the incredible gift of being mostly free of the most cringey Japanese tropes and managing to be actually, undisputably adult in some key moments.
It’s easy to point out the mishmash of western religious themes and laugh at almost inevitable characters like Maria and Chu-Chu, but you don’t need to look that far beyond those to see some amazingly solid dialogue and characters. Citan is one of the best video game characters ever written. The game develops its themes in a very realistic way, despite being pure fantasy. Xenogears is leagues better than the work it clearly homages - Evangelion wishes it was as accomplished and comprehensible as Xenogears, and it’s only because the two works belong to such different mediums that Evangelion made it into legend while XG is today a relatively unknown cult game. I’ve never seen another game try the same without inevitably falling foul of anime tropes, excessively convoluted telling, and bad dialogue and design; Chrono Cross probably flew almost as high, but it doesn’t cut as deep. God bless the incomparable freedom devs had at the time.