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[DragonSworne]

Like I said in the other thread, Iwata has no plan on resigning. He secured his position over the last few quarters by selecting his goons to the board of directors.

Iwata is going to bring Nintendo to collapse.

 

[Coolwhip]

Probably because he's dedicated to making good classic Nintendo games, instead of throwing everything overboard to go F2P and push Mario onto mobile.

Very true. When it comes to actual games, Nintendo's conservative approach in the current gaming landscape is a blessing.

 

[BrokenEchelon]

I, for one, look forward to Ultra Panic Mode Nintendo.

 

[JordanN]

I feel confident in knowing Nintendo annoys me.

And not because Iwata is in power, but because his actions get justified by many here.
Holy crap, no other company gets rewarded for being so wrong. That's the most infuriating part.

 

[enanogrande]

Honestly, Iwata's been able, in the past, not only to lead Nintendo to a series of successes (Nintendo DS, Wii), but also turn out situations that people thought were impossible to make profitable (Nintendo 3DS low sales at start).

While it's true that his efforts with the Wii U are being completely inefficient (even though Super Mario 3D World did good and made Nintendo sell 500K units in North America) I still think he has the right administrative skills to correctly manage the situation and be able to at least make it profitable.

While it's true that in the foreseeable future we only have a maximum output of 8 exclusive games this year, and no 3rd party support except for Watch Dogs, it is also true that Nintendo NEVER reveals their projects until they're really deep in development. What does this mean? It's simple, as far as we know Nintendo could've still some cards they haven't played that could be able to turn out Wii U's fate.

In all honesty, the console isn't bad, it just misses the love it deserves and that's caused by huge software droughts and no third party support (which means a lot less games to play).

We have faith in you Iwata! <3

Well, considering he's the one that's been at the helm to cause those 'impossible to profit' situations....

He's got to go.

 

[Coolwhip]

I, for one, look forward to Ultra Panic Mode Nintendo.

Didn't help them with Gamecube though.

 

[Log4Girlz]

Iwata: "I won't resign"

Investors: "We don't understand"

 

[Pancakes R Us]

"I won't resign. One hit game can change everything, and we're betting it on our once-a-gen stars Mario Kart and Smas Bros!"

Good luck with that.

If Wii U somehow makes it into next year without a turnaround through Nintendo's stubborn insistence, I'll tip my hat to them just for remaining stuck in their old ways.

 

[Trojan X]

Providing he is open minded i see no reason he should resign just yet.

 

[Plinko]

While I like Iwata, I fear that he's not really going to make any changes and drive Nintendo into financial ruin.

I mean, anybody who read that article about how clueless Nintendo was when it came to developing online for Wii U sees this company has some serious issues.

 

[monome]

Re: that last point, I imagine there's a point where Sony regards the portfolio as being a satisfactory end-game for a lack of profit on those games. We've had Tearaway, Puppeteer, Journey, Rain in the last 2 years and probably some I'm forgetting about. Sly Cooper as well

I'm not saying Sony should stop doing things its way.

nor that MS holds the responsibility for parents buying COD/GTA to 10 years old kids.

Nintendo has tried the whole family approach with WiiU. to zero success. but it was not an insane decision to try it. far from it.

 

[Pikma]

The Nintendo i used to love doesn't exist anymore.

 

[Seanspeed]

Don't know why. While I agree there is nothing you can do in the short term, you can get a new leader to start building the next phase for Nintendo (so doing something about the long term).

Keeping the leader that has proven incompetent doesn't make much sense.

I suppose so. I just always feel bad for anybody who steps in in these situations. Seems a lot of times they are not given a proper chance and when things don't turn around, or don't turn around fast enough, they have fingers pointed at them unfairly.

A lot of people here clearly don't understand japanese culture...

I know. Isn't he supposed to like fall on a samurai sword out of shame or something now?

 

[DragonSworne]

Providing he is open minded i see no reason he should resign just yet.

How about the fact he has absolutely no plan or strategy to reverse Nintendo's misfortune in the near or long term?

With all the makor fundamental issues that are wrong or not addressed by Nintendo, not having a competent roadmap should be the only reason needed for getting fired.

 

[JDSN]

I, for one, look forward to Ultra Panic Mode Nintendo.

We have seen ultra panic mode Nintendo, it looks like unfocused desperation.

 

[digoutyoursoul]

Mario Kart and Smash never saved GameCube (personally I loved that system) and I would be surprised if they gave Wii U real momentum.

I think it's just damage control for the next couple of years at least, I can't see them doing a Sega in terms of abandoning a console quickly.

 

[Mononoke]

I really want to understand where this unyielding faith in Iwata is coming from. I can't understand how some can see where Nintendo is heading and not think a change in leadership, if not warranted, at least strongly considered.

I'm curious too. I always see fierce defenders of Iwata every time this is brought up. I'm an open minded individual. I'm open to accepting I'm wrong and ignorant about a subject. So those that don't think he should step down, why? Given the numbers, his performance, his failures at recent crucial decisions ( Wii U) and lastly the small chance Wii U has of recovering, why should they keep him?

I sincerely ask this. If I'm wrong and I don't know what I'm talking about , then I'd like to fix that.

 

[Dusk Golem]

lol wut. Its declining. Nintendo just reduced their forecast for it by 25%.

The 3DS in less than three years has become the 13th top selling console of all time, and even trumps lifetime sales of the Nintendo 64, and is close to being better selling than the lifetime sales of the SEGA Genesis/Master System and SNES.

 

[Sandfox]

How about the fact he has absolutely no plan or strategy to reverse Nintendo's misfortune in the near or long term?

How do you know that? At least wait until the investor's meeting before making that kind of claim.

 

[Morokh]

lol wut. Its declining. Nintendo just reduced their forecast for it by 25%.

That doesn't say it's declining, their predictions were based on something more akin to DS levels of sales, which we clearly know 3DS will not reach and were unrealistic in the first place.

Before going all forks and torches on Iwata, let's see how he handles the months to come.
They clearly wanted to see how the Christmas period would go for them, now that it's over they'll need to make drastic adjustments, the fact that they cut down to way more realistic forecasts is finally the sign that they had to go back down to earth.

 

[Tony91]

Well, considering he's the one that's been at the helm to cause those 'impossible to profit' situations....

He's got to go.

He's also been able to deliver some awesome experiences, though, you can't just forget everything that he did because of a software drought or some bad sales.

While it's true that the same errors have been repeated over and over, it's also true that he's been able to fix them. We don't really know what the plans for Wii U are over at the Nintendo HQ, but I'm sure none of them is thinking of being quiet while the interest in the console slowly fades away.

They have to take a step in the right direction and if that means providing a huge amount of software, I'm sure they'll do it. We all know they don't have the force to do it and as previous proofs there are external collaborations which lead to such beautiful games as The Wonderful 101 (poorly commercialized, but that's another story), Lego City Undercover, etc.

All they have to do is getting an awesome series of games on the system, once it's done you'll have a few followers coming not only for that particular game, but also all the other released software it has to offer.

As someone said earlier, the system is not missing games, there are plenty if you like the genres, what it really misses are system sellers, and Super Mario 3D World alone wasn't enough.

Will Mario Kart 8 turn things around? Probably not, but it'll surely bring some people aboard, as Super Smash Bros will, but it still misses something and that's Iwata's job to find out what it is.

 

[Sammy Samusu]

Stay strong, Iwata!

 

[BrokenEchelon]

Didn't help them with Gamecube though.

Helped me with the Gamecube though. Fantastic system.

We have seen ultra panic mode Nintendo, it looks like unfocused desperation.

If it means they start throwing more darts at the board, at least something will stick and be a gem, right?

 

[Pikma]

Well, considering he's the one that's been at the helm to cause those 'impossible to profit' situations....

He's got to go.

People love to talk about how quickly phones are killing the handheld market and how they'll cease to exist in X years because of that and many other reasons but when it's about reviewing the whole spectrum you (and many others) decide to focus on ONE man, out of a whole giant-multinational company?

How about the fact he has absolutely no plan or strategy to reverse Nintendo's misfortune in the near or long term?

So what? Do you read minds now? How do you know he has no plan? Or does your aunt work in their HQ?

 

[Taker666]

I think kneejerk resignations only harm companies initially. A void in leadership would be the worst thing they could have at present... and I don't honestly think anyone currently in Nintendo's top tier would be any better than Iwata (they'd need an outsider).

Frankly there is little any new leadership could do in regards to their current situation in regards to the Wii U at least..outside of spending far more money on far better marketing/rebranding/moneyhats.

It's really future generations they need to make a massive change with.

 

[Mononoke]

That doesn't say it's declining, their predictions were based on something more akin to DS levels of sales, which we clearly know 3DS will not reach and were unrealistic in the first place.

Before going all forks and torches on Iwata, let's see how he handles the months to come.
They clearly wanted to see how the Christmas period would go for them, now that it's over they'll need to make drastic adjustments, the fact that they cut down to way more realistic forecasts is finally the sign that they had to go back down to earth.

Edit: re-read your post and that's what you said. But doesn't that still mean they are heading down a future path with lower numbers?

Isn't the 3DS in general selling at a lower pace/% then the 2DS. While 3DS numbers are still strong, it selling worse than their last handheld + all the other numbers means the company is not only doing worse, but heading down a path of overall lower numbers across the board?

 

[Cuburt]

Good. It's annoying that people that been trying to force that narrative even though he never claimed that them not meeting the 100 billion yen profit would mean he would resign.

The man cut his own salary for not meeting expectations before rather than cut jobs. He's had successes under his watch. He deserves more time to turn things around, especially since we haven't even seen the fruits/repercussions of the recent changes in the company from this past year (new buildings, shuffling of management, death of Yamauchi, etc.).

 

[Rvaisse]

Before wanting Iwata to resign, ask yourself who could be his successor and what would he do ?
Coz he would certainly not make your neogaf's fantasies a reality.

Iwata is a very good CEO for nintendo in the long run, and a very good CEO to compete with Sony/MS.
#dealwithit he's here to stay

 

[Fantastapotamus]

Honestly, Iwata seeme like the only CEO arround who actually likes and cares about video games....
Did anybody ever believe that Mattrick actually plays video games? Not that that's a requirement or anything
I don't get the "hate" for him.

 

[Nilaul]

 

[lefantome]

maybe he's going to resign at the end of the fiscal year

 

[sakipon]

Good. It's annoying that people that been trying to force that narrative even though he never claimed that them not meeting the 100 billion yen profit would mean he would resign.

The man cut his own salary for not meeting expectations before rather than cut jobs. He's had successes under his watch. He deserves more time to turn things around, especially since we haven't even seen the fruits/repercussions of the recent changes in the company from this past year (new buildings, shuffling of management, death of Yamauchi, etc.).

I agree he deserves more time. However I'd like to hear about his plans in more detail. I guess we'll get to know something in the end of the month but right now I feel that being open and showing something concrete would be a good thing to do.

 

[Go_Ly_Dow]

I think Iwata is more likely to lose his job than David Moyes.

 

[digoutyoursoul]

Honestly, Iwata seeme like the only CEO arround who actually likes and cares about video games....
Did anybody ever believe that Mattrick actually plays video games? Not that that's a requirement or anything
I don't get the "hate" for him.

Try telling shareholders that

 

[Fox_Mulder]

stay strong Iwata

 

[Fantastapotamus]

Try telling shareholders that

I didn't realise I was talking to shareholders.

 

[LoveCake]

How many times has Iwata apologized now ?

At some point everyone should know when enough is enough & do the honorable thing & fall on their sword.

Talk is cheap at the end of the day & sorry just doesn't cut it.

 

[Yado]

Honestly, Iwata seeme like the only CEO arround who actually likes and cares about video games....
Did anybody ever believe that Mattrick actually plays video games? Not that that's a requirement or anything
I don't get the "hate" for him.

I don't have particularly strong feelings about him being fired but the "hate" for Iwata is justified. He's done a lot of good for Nintendo but his recent missteps are hard to overlook, there's been too much fumbling and fuckups. Maybe he should just stop publicly promising things they can't deliver.

 

[Pikma]

To me it has become pretty clear that under his cute, amicable looking-at-bananas and sitting next to the Love Plus girl on the couch exterior, you have a very calculating businessman really looking to consolidate control and power. Just the way the board of directors has crystallized over the past few years is pretty interesting.

Pinky & The Brain= Miyamoto & Iwata

 

[Birathen]

Good. It's annoying that people that been trying to force that narrative even though he never claimed that them not meeting the 100 billion yen profit would mean he would resign.

The man cut his own salary for not meeting expectations before rather than cut jobs. He's had successes under his watch. He deserves more time to turn things around, especially since we haven't even seen the fruits/repercussions of the recent changes in the company from this past year (new buildings, shuffling of management, death of Yamauchi, etc.).

Heh, read that as the death of Yamauchi was Iwatas doing

 

[Red Chocobo]

The Captain always goes down with the ship.

 

[digoutyoursoul]

I didn't realise I was talking to shareholders.

It's a good job you are not

 

[rokero]

I don't think Iwata should resign his only misstep has been the WiiU, I do think he needs to change his game plan starting with more Western funded games

 

[enanogrande]

He's also been able to deliver some awesome experiences, though, you can't just forget everything that he did because of a software drought or some bad sales.

While it's true that the same errors have been repeated over and over, it's also true that he's been able to fix them. We don't really know what the plans for Wii U are over at the Nintendo HQ, but I'm sure none of them is thinking of being quiet while the interest in the console slowly fades away.

They have to take a step in the right direction and if that means providing a huge amount of software, I'm sure they'll do it. We all know they don't have the force to do it and as previous proofs there are external collaborations which lead to such beautiful games as The Wonderful 101 (poorly commercialized, but that's another story), Lego City Undercover, etc.

All they have to do is getting an awesome series of games on the system, once it's done you'll have a few followers coming not only for that particular game, but also all the other released software it has to offer.

As someone said earlier, the system is not missing games, there are plenty if you like the genres, what it really misses are system sellers, and Super Mario 3D World alone wasn't enough.

Will Mario Kart 8 turn things around? Probably not, but it'll surely bring some people aboard, as Super Smash Bros will, but it still misses something and that's Iwata's job to find out what it is.

I'm not one that subscribes to the notion that the problem with the WiiU is lack of games - I think the whole vision for the system is flawed, especially when compared to their vision with the original Wii and what they meant to do with it.

I have no complaints about the games put out under Iwata - apart from the shameless mario milking. The've been very high quality (and interspersed with other, more niche franchises), and I don't want to see these types of games disappear. But I don't see Iwata with any clue of what he's doing at the top, and I fear continuing down this path will eventually lead to the end of Nintendo as we know it.

 

[Go_Ly_Dow]

I don't think Iwata should resign his only misstep has been the WiiU, I do think he needs to change his game plan starting with more Western funded games

The Wii-U is a collosal mistep that can jeapordize the whole company.

Peoples jobs are at stake because of that mistep. Its what generally happens when a business starts generating frequent losses.

 

[Coolwhip]

The Captain always goes down with the ship.

Not in the west. It seems to be part of Japanese culture. I like it really, shows determination. Wether or not it is good for Nintendo, probably not.

 

[Cuburt]

Try telling shareholders that

Not all shareholders have the long term health of a company in mind, especially if people take the advice of certain analysts in the industry.

 

[jeffers]

How about the fact he has absolutely no plan or strategy to reverse Nintendo's misfortune in the near or long term?

With all the makor fundamental issues that are wrong or not addressed by Nintendo, not having a competent roadmap should be the only reason needed for getting fired.

YEAH! He hasnt got a meeting the day after the financials (30th) to discuss the mid and long term future or anything!

 

[Pikma]

The Wii-U is a collosal mistep that can jeapordize the whole company.

Peoples jobs are at stake because of that mistep. Its what generally happens when a business starts generating frequent losses.

Talk about blowing things out of proportion. :lol
It's like if Michael Bay made a movie out of the current Nintendo situation.

 

[-MB-]

Honestly, Iwata seeme like the only CEO arround who actually likes and cares about video games....
Did anybody ever believe that Mattrick actually plays video games? Not that that's a requirement or anything
I don't get the "hate" for him.

Lots of ex-Nintendo fanboys who loathe him for the Wii/DS direction he took the company.