dragonelite
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Hey with the internet and such i would probably tell new co workers assap about me past if i was an ex coke smuggler. Better to be honest upfront then be confronted from shitty co workers.
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I work in a kindergarten and my co-worker is a cocaine smuggler
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Does her previous offense, drug smuggling which she's served time for put any of the kids in any immediate danger? No of course it doesn't. If anything it makes her a better person than you to work with young children because she's made mistakes and now wants to reform herself and become a good person again. Drug smuggling isn't nearly as bad as dealing it for example and you don't know the reasons why she did it.
If the parents needed to know, they'd know already.
If the parents needed to know, they'd know already.
michaelius
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Go to your boss and talk with him/her about your concerns.
What incident? As far as my reading comprehension doesn't fail me, she is not dealing now. She served her time and she deserves a second chance.
Some people in here really like to ruin people's lives. Who the fuck cares, she did her time and reformed. A felony should not be a life ending sentence like some people treat it. She has to like kids to teach kindergarten because that job can be rough, but rewarding. So I highly doubt she would do anything to hurt them and most likely would try to make sure they don't do what she did.
How do you know she wants to reform herself and become a good person? That's the bizarre part to me. It's not like she's been out a couple of years and has a history of holding down a job and staying out of trouble. She had a 6 year sentence sometime in 2010. We know she's been there more than a week. I think it's reasonable to guess she's been there since late 2013 at least. It sounds like they drove over to the prison and picked her up on release day then brought her back to work with the kids.
The only way this makes sense is if she is someone really high ups kid.
No one made me God, I'm just asking for advice.
Like I said before, those articles about the cocaine smuggling had her picture in it.
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soundscream
Member
Or a sly way of letting him know she's down for anal.
Shanks D Zoro
Banned
Does she pose a threat to the children???
If not then leave her the fuck alone. Everyone deserves a second chance and if she was convicted then she has served her time.
If not then leave her the fuck alone. Everyone deserves a second chance and if she was convicted then she has served her time.
afternoon delight
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Some people don't view a little time spent "smuggling cocaine" as the worst part of their tragic lives in some AE show.
I am definitely in the "leave her alone" crowd - people should be allowed to do their time and reintegrate into society. The only exception I'd make is that someone who was convicted of child molestation obviously shouldn't be able to work around kids. This, though... she was a smuggler, which plenty of good, desperate people end up doing to make ends meet because they feel there are no other opportunities around them. A bad choice, perhaps, not worth a lifetime of problems.
In the end, the only real red alarm is why she was so enthusiastic to share this news with you. I can't put my finger around why she'd do that other than she likes you and that's her warped way of getting your attention, but I really don't have any clue as to her motive there.
In the end, the only real red alarm is why she was so enthusiastic to share this news with you. I can't put my finger around why she'd do that other than she likes you and that's her warped way of getting your attention, but I really don't have any clue as to her motive there.
Seriously, tell your boss and let them decide (and if they already know, then great). Depending on the state, felonies that are related to narcotics, sex, or drugs disqualifies a person from teaching. And if it's relevant to your state, knowledge of such a thing definitely wouldn't look good on your part.
AuthenticM
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HeisenbergLannister
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Have you actually looked at the articles? If so, was a mugshot included?
Something smells fishy and I'm wondering if the smuggler was someone with the same name as your co-worker, and she's pulling a prank on you.
Something smells fishy and I'm wondering if the smuggler was someone with the same name as your co-worker, and she's pulling a prank on you.
Fury Sense
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You've gained her trust, now it's time to fuck her over for that terrible thing she did to you and the children.
Diprosalic
Banned
maybe she wants to be honest about it and not have him find out later and lose his trust or something. I wouldn't do a thing unless you have reasonable evidence that the kids are in danger.
SillyEskimo
Member
I would talk it over with the boss and let them decide what action, if any, to take.
Parents do not like criminal records being kept from them when it comes to people around their kids. I don't believe it will end well for her if it goes public. I'm shocked she was still able to find work in such a field given her background.
Parents do not like criminal records being kept from them when it comes to people around their kids. I don't believe it will end well for her if it goes public. I'm shocked she was still able to find work in such a field given her background.
I knew a girl back in the day who got mixed up with wrong people and eventually was busted for trying to smuggle drugs. People don't understand that more often than not females are victims in the drug trade, they don't feel like they have a choice and saying "no" might lead to disastrous results. Unfortunately these women are usually the ones who end up serving prison sentences while the real profiteers stay in the background.
I understand the concern regarding working with children but give her a chance to make it right, she trusted you with this information so you should stay sharp and evaluate the situation as time progresses.
I understand the concern regarding working with children but give her a chance to make it right, she trusted you with this information so you should stay sharp and evaluate the situation as time progresses.
Could be worse, this children's summer camp in Raleigh was run by a woman who killed her own child and another woman who murdered her NFL player husband.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/convicted-murderers-run-north-carolina-kids-camp/story?id=19519832
http://abcnews.go.com/US/convicted-murderers-run-north-carolina-kids-camp/story?id=19519832
Did you had a background check performed on you before you got the job?
TouchMyBox
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I told everybody that I killed a man once within my group to avoid gossip and to have the chance to be upfront and tell them on my terms.
I'm still good guy Lee though.
I'm still good guy Lee though.
If she had a 6 year sentance and she's already out of prison it means she was most likely let out for good behaviour.People make stupid mistakes all the time when they're younger, those mistakes should not ruin the rest of their lives.
Herbspiceguy
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I don't see how her past has anything to do with her professional skills in the kindergarten.
Telling it to people you hardly know is asking for trouble though.
Telling it to people you hardly know is asking for trouble though.
dripdripsplash
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What a world we live in.
This.
The school obviously knows what she's done. The justice system obviously knows too. If they both think she's okay and she hasn't actually done anything since getting out, you shouldn't be ruining her life.
Why not just ask around about it? If she's shoving a phone in your face right after you met seemingly bragging about it... Feels like it's open game at that point to at least ask.
I merely have the possibility of working around kids and had to do various background checks at my current job.
I merely have the possibility of working around kids and had to do various background checks at my current job.
Bomber Bob
Banned
Live and let live.
Just sayin
Just sayin
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Deleted member 1235
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Of course. She's been punished but everyone here thinks her chance of a future should be wrecked. Exact mentality that a dude posted on gaf recently about having a misdemeanour being a life sentence.
People should be allowed to work. It's not like she was feeding cocaïne to kids
TwEE-N-Toast
Banned
Just because somebody does not have you're appreciation for America's drug law doesn't mean they're terrible with children. Just watch how she works and you should get an idea if she belongs there or not.
EdibleKnife
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If I was a parent and I found out about this, I would at least be willing to find out if she is doing a good job as a teacher/caretaker now before deciding whether or not to assemble the angry mob
Nope.
Does the conviction involve abuse and/or violence?? Stay away. Otherwise, you are good to go, as long as you have the right interpersonal skills.
Personally, I wouldn't even tell the boss about this. Unless they just flat out didn't do a background check, there is absolutely 0% chance that management doesn't know about it. Plus, if she's openly discussing this with co-workers, then she has nothing to fear because she knows that management knows about this.
See how she does her job and then start the doubting game.
See how she does her job and then start the doubting game.
Osiris
I permanently banned my 6 year old daughter from using the PS4 for mistakenly sending grief reports as it's too hard to watch or talk to her
Good judgement is a highly important skill for someone responsible for children. Showing you have an immense lack of it disqualifies you IMO.
Same thoughts here.
Maybe she thought that it's better to tell upfront so they don't google her at home and gossip then.
EdibleKnife
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Many people, including some parents, have shown an immense lack of judgement at some point in their lives. The true show of character is if they've accepted their consequences and come out on the other side with a better understanding of what right and wrong decisions are and what it means to be a descent and responsible person. If she where she is right now, she must have been able to prove that was true for her to someone somewhere along the line.
Everybody wants eternal punishment doled out for mistakes...until they're the ones caught making them, then it's please sir, leniency this, what about my life and career that.
People screw up and make questionable decisions. Some people can't be helped, but we as a society focus too much on removing the "problem" rather than saving the people that we can.
Punishment is good, and punishment is needed in many cases. But if all we can focus on is punishment and the negative and the death penalty and lock 'em up and throw away the key, we have failed as a society. We may as well go back to living in caves and jungles, because we're no better than the animals at that point.
People screw up and make questionable decisions. Some people can't be helped, but we as a society focus too much on removing the "problem" rather than saving the people that we can.
Punishment is good, and punishment is needed in many cases. But if all we can focus on is punishment and the negative and the death penalty and lock 'em up and throw away the key, we have failed as a society. We may as well go back to living in caves and jungles, because we're no better than the animals at that point.
The point of the prison is to rehabilitate people who've shown poor judgment so they can have another chance to contribute to society, not to create a permanent underclass.
Osiris
I permanently banned my 6 year old daughter from using the PS4 for mistakenly sending grief reports as it's too hard to watch or talk to her
I don't disagree, seconds chances should be given, I just don't think that one or two years after release is enough time to evaluate the level of reform before putting them in a position of great trust, of which care for others children falls under.
Society should give them another chance, but there's plenty of opportunities that don't involve the kind of trust imparted by parents on those taking care of their children.
spoke to a guy who worked as security in my high school while I was a student.
He told me about students coming in and getting caught with a few thousand dollars in cash and cocaine.
The security guy asks the kid, why are u bringing this shit in, why would u do this to the kids?! The kids replies its not for the students but for the teachers >_<
shit blew my mind... you assume drugs would only be a problem for kids, but the teachers get down too!
Later he transferred around and has worked at a few different schools including elementary schools, and he said its no different. You can find teachers who bump coke between breaks.
Could be worse?
He told me about students coming in and getting caught with a few thousand dollars in cash and cocaine.
The security guy asks the kid, why are u bringing this shit in, why would u do this to the kids?! The kids replies its not for the students but for the teachers >_<
shit blew my mind... you assume drugs would only be a problem for kids, but the teachers get down too!
Later he transferred around and has worked at a few different schools including elementary schools, and he said its no different. You can find teachers who bump coke between breaks.
Could be worse?
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