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If birds didn't exist, would we have modern-day flight?

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People should read MIMIC's first sentence in his post, and he says all winged creatures (not just birds).

Of course if there was no birds, somebody would had seen insects flying around and go from there.
 
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I'm going to say no.
I don't think people would have had the desire to fly for as long if there were no flying creatures (I actually read the OP - people should fucking try it sometime) and so, while it might have happened eventually, I think we'd definitely have discovered it much later, and it would be less commonplace.
 
I'm going to say no.
I don't think people would have had the desire to fly for as long if there were no flying creatures (I actually read the OP - people should fucking try it sometime) and so, while it might have happened eventually, I think we'd definitely have discovered it much later, and it would be less commonplace.

I don't agree. Just like Newton and the apple, people noticed wind resistance on light objects falling or leaves flying through the wind. Obviously history would be much different, but I think that it would have advanced just as fast and if not 'much' later.
 
If birds didn't exist, would we know flight was possible?


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We'd probably be more blimp/hot air balloon centric than wing centric for much longer, until someone started trying to figure out how to increase their forward in-air speed.
 
If anything, trying to emulate birds held us back.
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You can't deny people have tried flying giant birds in the past, you just can't. Someone tried at the very least, and I'm damn sure some were even successful
 
I don't agree. Just like Newton and the apple, people noticed wind resistance on light objects falling or leaves flying through the wind. Obviously history would be much different, but I think that it would have advanced just as fast and if not 'much' later.

With no flying creatures? I don't know man. I think public interest in flight definitely got the "race" going. It got shit funded. It got publicity... but we'll never know for sure.

But I mean, newton observed a lot of things and then sought to explain them. With less people observing flight over centuries and centuries of human life, I just don't know that it would be something on people's minds.
Hard to say though.
 
Hm. Not sure. Although modern flight does not resemble birds obviously, birds were a main object in inspiring observers to begin the research.

But of course there are other flying animals too - so it was probably a matter of time either way. Just insects and bats and other fliers probably aren't considered as "majestic" and inspiring so who knows if them alone would have inspired people.
 
There's no denying that we tried to imitate birds as best as we could at first, but I firmly believe we would've figured it out without them regardless and that we would have planes very similar to those we have today.

The fact that our planes look like birds is that there's really no other way for a flying creature to look like and be just as optimal.
 
There's no denying that we tried to imitate birds as best as we could at first, but I firmly believe we would've figured it out without them regardless and that we would have planes very similar to those we have today.

The fact that our planes look like birds is that there's really no other way for a flying creature to look like and be just as optimal.

Yes but we learned that this was the optimal way by looking at birds.
 
If there were no birds (or flying insects) we'd probably be flying in zeppelins.

And before someone asks me to name an animal that looks like a zeppelin I'll preemptively say your mother.
 
The only important thing about birds is the curve of their wings, that makes the air flow at different speeds above and below them and generates lift.

I'm sure this principle was applied to ship design (see: hydroplaning) way before the wright brothers flew. The idea of fluid flowing over a fixed wing and generating lift isn't that complicated, it's something that someone could be expected to figure out and apply to flight.

It might have taken a little longer and not gotten as much attention but it would have eventually happened.
 
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