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[Lionel Mandrake]

Honestly the fact of the matter is that in order for us to accept that birds descended from dinosaurs, we have to take their word for it. And that's the problem, as birds cannot be trusted.

Take this bird for example:

 

[BannedEpisode]

Im sure its been said but evolution doesnt work like that.

 

[Soodanim]

I thought this was just a joke thread. I still kind of do, but it's hard to tell.

Poe's law.

 

[MattKeil]

Honestly the fact of the matter is that in order for us to accept that birds descended from dinosaurs, we have to take their word for it. And that's the problem, as birds cannot be trusted.

Take this bird for example:

That bird is fucking shifty.

 

[Bear]

Like a few people already said, dinosaurs came first.

The earliest known feathered dinosaurs were too heavy to fly. Over time, some began to develop a more lightweight bone structure (which birds still have) and formed more distinct wings. These became birds.

Pterodactyls come from a different lineage, not connected to birds. They have the same hollow bone structure but have more in common with with bats (featherless, wings made of stretched skin, evidence of small hairs). That's not to say that bats evolved from them, just that pterodactyls are more closely related to the dinosaurs that became mammals. They don't really fit neatly in any category, and strictly speaking they aren't technically dinosaurs.

Flight does not have a common evolutionary source. Insects developed it first, followed birds and flying mammals who developed their own forms of flight independently. Both birds and mammals branched off from reptiles.

 

[Mgoblue201]

Honestly the fact of the matter is that in order for us to accept that birds descended from dinosaurs, we have to take their word for it. And that's the problem, as birds cannot be trusted.

Take this bird for example:

Birds are capable of anything.

 

[CorvoSol]

Pterodactyls aren't even dinosaurs really, they're flying reptiles.
Elasmosaurs and Ichthyosaurs weren't really dinosaurs either, they were marine reptiles.

Man, Dinosaur was such an exclusive club, yo.

 

[Log4Girlz]

I don't think the Trex ever flew and shit on my car

At the very least birds came from dinosaurs. All the evidence points to at least that much. What many are claiming now is that birds are within the same family, that they are just species of dinosaurs, not that they simply arose from them. There is like, evidence and junk to support this, like tons and tons.

 

[Ken]

I don't think the Trex ever flew and shit on my car

The T-Rex would not need to fly to do that to your car.

 

[McNei1y]

Luckily T-Rex's aren't shitting on our cars now.

 

[Danne-Danger]

What are chickens and flamingoes!?

Stupid!

 

[Chuckie]

Stupid!

 

[Log4Girlz]

Did you know that a Flamingos knees are hidden from view within its feathers? What people perceive as its lower leg is actually a giant foot.

 

[Amalthea]

I just leave this here.

 

[Boss Doggie]

It did give us this

 

[yn-neko hates a cat]

I know a guy from Kanas who said he's been with both a bird and an iguana (in the biblical sense) and based on the the way they both feel inside, they're definitely related.

That doesn'y anwser your question but hopefully it opens up the floor for deeper thought on the matter.

You're welcome.

 

[Amalthea]

I know a guy from Kanas who said he's been with both a bird and an iguana (in the biblical sense) and based on the the way they both feel inside, they're definitely related.

That doesn'y anwser your question but hopefully it opens up the floor for deeper thought on the matter.

You're welcome.

What the hell?

 

[abusori]

I know a guy from Kanas who said he's been with both a bird and an iguana (in the biblical sense) and based on the the way they both feel inside, they're definitely related.

That doesn'y anwser your question but hopefully it opens up the floor for deeper thought on the matter.

You're welcome.

I...um, okay.

 

[dragonelite]

I know a guy from Kanas who said he's been with both a bird and an iguana (in the biblical sense) and based on the the way they both feel inside, they're definitely related.

That doesn'y anwser your question but hopefully it opens up the floor for deeper thought on the matter.

You're welcome.

I like where this thread is going

 

[Glasswork]

I know a guy from Kanas who said he's been with both a bird and an iguana (in the biblical sense) and based on the the way they both feel inside, they're definitely related.

That doesn'y anwser your question but hopefully it opens up the floor for deeper thought on the matter.

You're welcome.

 

[Pandaman]

Ironically birds are much closer relatives to T-rex's than pterodactyl's.

 

[Face it Tiger..]

I know a guy from Kanas who said he's been with both a bird and an iguana (in the biblical sense) and based on the the way they both feel inside, they're definitely related.

That doesn'y anwser your question but hopefully it opens up the floor for deeper thought on the matter.

You're welcome.

ohgod.gif

 

[GavinGT]

What is wrong with you, GAF? I came in here expecting Philosoraptor and was sorely disappointed.

 

[Larson Conway]

Like a few people already said, dinosaurs came first.

The earliest known feathered dinosaurs were too heavy to fly. Over time, some began to develop a more lightweight bone structure (which birds still have) and formed more distinct wings. These became birds.

Pterodactyls come from a different lineage, not connected to birds. They have the same hollow bone structure but have more in common with with bats (featherless, wings made of stretched skin, evidence of small hairs). That's not to say that bats evolved from them, just that pterodactyls are more closely related to the dinosaurs that became mammals. They don't really fit neatly in any category, and strictly speaking they aren't technically dinosaurs.

Flight does not have a common evolutionary source. Insects developed it first, followed birds and flying mammals who developed their own forms of flight independently. Both birds and mammals branched off from reptiles.

I really, really appreciate this response.

 

[yn-neko hates a cat]

Flight does not have a common evolutionary source. Insects developed it first, followed birds and flying mammals who developed their own forms of flight independently. Both birds and mammals branched off from reptiles.

It's time like this I wish we could peek a billion years into the future. It seems like insects that have been doing it the longest seem to be the most proficient at flying. Birds seem to be pretty good at it but mammals suck at it. A billion years from now, will insects be better? Will birds have the directional control of insects and will mammals finally be able to do more than glide? Will plants have some level of control rather than just being carried by the wind?

You say that that these abilities developed in different species independently so I don't mean to establish such a linear path to it all, I just find it curious.

It's interesting that you here about snakes that can glide now and it makes you wonder based on what you said if reptiles are finally attempting to take flight or are they trying to devolve. LOL... wouldn't it be awesome if the just... remembered?

 

[shadyspace]

Were dinosaurs the first animals that flew?

 

[Mario]

Were dinosaurs the first animals that flew?

Insects were first.

 

[Log4Girlz]

Were dinosaurs the first animals that flew?

Insects,pterosaurs and angels pre-dated them.

 

[Dead Man]

Insects were first.

Meganeura bitches!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meganeura

With wingspans of up to 65 cm (2.1 ft), M. monyi is one of the largest known flying insect species; the Permian Meganeuropsis permiana is another. Meganeura were predatory, and fed on other insects, and even small amphibians.

Edit: Also just realised the joke in the title, from brids, lol

 

[yn-neko hates a cat]

Meganeura bitches!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meganeura

Edit: Also just realised the joke in the title, from brids, lol

If I'm reading wikipedia right, we should be able to grow 1 meter long dragonfly if we do it in 40% oxygen tank

Spoiler

.. then we can send to their deaths in the coming robot wars

.

 

[bengraven]

Pterodactyls aren't even dinosaurs really, they're flying reptiles.
Elasmosaurs and Ichthyosaurs weren't really dinosaurs either, they were marine reptiles.

This. They evolved differently from a similar family.

That's like asking why snakes don't have turtle shells.

 

[Mikeside]

"dinosaurs came from birds" - er no, birds came from dinosaurs.

 

[Dennis]

 

[y2dvd]

Meganeura bitches!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meganeura

Edit: Also just realised the joke in the title, from brids, lol

This is some Myst shit right here!

 

[tapedeck]

What is wrong with you, GAF? I came in here expecting Philosoraptor and was sorely disappointed.

Goddammit this. I expected better.

 

[blame space]

i thought birds came from dinosaurs.

 

[Galang]

I know a guy from Kanas who said he's been with both a bird and an iguana (in the biblical sense) and based on the the way they both feel inside, they're definitely related.

That doesn'y anwser your question but hopefully it opens up the floor for deeper thought on the matter.

You're welcome.

I had to read this a couple of times... wow.

 

[AgentP]

pterosaurs are reptiles, not dinosaurs, which is a sub-class of reptile. Birds, well it seems are the decedents of therapods.

 

[Angry Fork]

I know a guy from Kanas who said he's been with both a bird and an iguana (in the biblical sense) and based on the the way they both feel inside, they're definitely related.

That doesn'y anwser your question but hopefully it opens up the floor for deeper thought on the matter.

You're welcome.

 

[fallengorn]

birds > dinosaurs > birds

 

[blame space]

that said, this is the best question thread on the front page.

 

[Deleted member 81567]

This made me laugh so hard.

 

[Gaborn]

Because if they all occupied a single niche they would be less likely to survive over time because of the competition for food resources. It's much more likely over millions of years for members of a species to specialize when the competition for food becomes fierce and over time natural selection will further encourage and reinforce such selection choices in things like diet and feeding behavior to maximize the efficiency of this because it will make them more likely to survive and eventually you get... what happened.

 

[Ricky_R]

CAAAAWWWW CAAAAWWWW!

hahah tukitukitukitukituki.

I laughed more that I thought I would in that movie.

 

[Boss Doggie]

Those cartoons with dinosaurs and dinosaur-men in them better update their roster not to include pterosaurs!

 

[crazy monkey]

lies all lies. just to make dinos look lame. propaganda i tell you.

 

[Xdrive05]

Because Evolution 101 is harder than making Gaf do your research for you?

 

[Asuma01]

I don't think the Trex ever flew and shit on my car

Because you have it backwards... Ive never heard that dinosaurs came from birds... its birds that evolved from dinosaurs. Its the more commonly accepted theory.

 

[Xdrive05]

Because Evolution 101 is harder than making Gaf do your research for you?

Quoted for new page, OP, if you're being serious and not trolling. Don't be lazy.

 

[Count Dookkake]

Holy shit at OP.

Now I understand some of your other posts that I had noticed.