Wow, wtf, even just this is already amazing sounding. Come on Nintendo.
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Wow, wtf, even just this is already amazing sounding. Come on Nintendo.
GX sold about .65 million copies. No publisher would be interested in that these days.
On 3DS, such sales might be justifiable given a reduced budget.
Somewhat ironically, F-Zero was never pronounced dead but hasn't had an entry in one generation. Psygnosis is closed, but WipEout is supposedly still an active franchise.
I have to agree though; the future is uncertain and we're too short in options right now. I'm not sure if merging MK with F-Zero is the way to go (though I do think Nintendo should use the MK brand in a more grand way), but this is a very good time for F-Zero to reemerge. First Nintendo HD platform, great online system and uncertainty with Sony's counterpart game. Although I'm more of a WipEout fan, I would find a new F-Zero huge at this point, even if it didn't try anything really new at all. That's still neither to say there aren't new things it can try nor that it shouldn't, though.
It didn't sell great - no it didnt. But those who bought it, tended to love it passionately.
Question: why don't developers bring projects like this back in style, and then develop longterm DLC / championship packets to increase the revenue from them. The games with more 'devoted' fans I think would support it. And NO I'm not talking the initially thought approach Killer Instinct was going for.
I thought dedicated longterm Virtua Fighter/F-Zero type game and tourney communities with minor fees would be great goldmines from smaller game groups IF the value and quality was there.
Seriously - £2 a month for passionately hardcore online F-Zero GX leagues? If 350,000 bought it on GC, I think maybe half of that crowd would be up for 40 multiplayer online leagues. VF fans I think would be game too if faced with a choice of that or no new VF / FZero
Question: why don't developers bring projects like this back in style, and then develop longterm DLC / championship packets to increase the revenue from them. The games with more 'devoted' fans I think would support it. And NO I'm not talking the initially thought approach Killer Instinct was going for.
I thought dedicated longterm Virtua Fighter/F-Zero type game and tourney communities with minor fees would be great goldmines from smaller game groups IF the value and quality was there.
Seriously - £2 a month for passionately hardcore online F-Zero GX leagues? If 350,000 bought it on GC, I think maybe half of that crowd would be up for 40 multiplayer online leagues. VF fans I think would be game too if faced with a choice of that or no new VF / FZero
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ my mind is blown just thinking about this. I'd almost prefer it to be on 3ds now that I think about it.
Redesign the characters. Their ridiculous costumes can't be helping sales.
ArchangelWest
Member
2.5 D side scrolling, Final Fight style game starring Captain Falcon where each stage you can upgrade/level up your special attacks (Falcon Pawnch!), and every few levels or so, you get a race that is on quite an extravagant course, but there are only about 4 or so on the game in total.
People play it and have fun, but wish there were more races. Along the way, new ideas arise for how to make the racing more fresh, and voila! You've made a little money, appeased some fans, and built interest up again while using the game as a stepping stone to whatever is next.
I'd buy it anyway...
People play it and have fun, but wish there were more races. Along the way, new ideas arise for how to make the racing more fresh, and voila! You've made a little money, appeased some fans, and built interest up again while using the game as a stepping stone to whatever is next.
I'd buy it anyway...
Lightning Lord
Banned
Well, I certainly hope someone at Nintendo is trying to come up with some good ideas, if that is the case.
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Jotamide
Unconfirmed Member
Time for Operation GX?
Goldenmoney
Member
How about you let someone else offer some ideas then? Someone at Nintendo has got to have ideas!
patrickthehedgehog
Member
Nintendo. plz.
StickSoldier
Member
Dude wtf Miyamoto. It's not like the past 3 NSMB games have been that different from each other, why can't Fzero just be a faster, better graphically update to the GC game?
Nintendo. plz.
Yeah, this.
Or just outsource the project to SEGA again...or Platinum.
Arc Christelle
Member
I wasn't but if you want to please me, just put the damn thing online.
See, all of those franchises you mentioned were successful financially, but Nintendo decided to stop making new entries in them for various reasons. F-Zero was a franchise that was well beloved by its fans, but consistently had mediocre to terrible numbers.
ElementalMage
Banned
i love f zero, sad
In my opinion, since the GC-Wii/GBA-DS transition, Nintendo is just stuck with the same 3 videogame series which they repeat over, and over and over. I mean, they had a bunch of series that got their own releases every once in a while (everything from Super Mario to F-Zero, Advance Wars, etc.), it was like all their franchises got a more or less similar amount of atention (well, almost, Super Mario and The Legend of Zelda always have had more atention). Now only some of their franchises get new games, the rest are forgotten/ignored.
FFS Miyamoto you don't have to fucking handle everything
Just reconstruct the old AV and give it to them they will surely make something better than any your new ideas, most of the "innovative" sequels you do nowadays do not add ABSOLUTELY nothing anyway.
Man i can't wait for this dude to get out of this company, he's going senile.
IT'S A FREAKING RACING GAME YOU HAVE TO ADD NOTHING MORE THAN MORE COURSES/CARS AND ADD A FREAKING ONLINE MODE.
Just reconstruct the old AV and give it to them they will surely make something better than any your new ideas, most of the "innovative" sequels you do nowadays do not add ABSOLUTELY nothing anyway.
Man i can't wait for this dude to get out of this company, he's going senile.
IT'S A FREAKING RACING GAME YOU HAVE TO ADD NOTHING MORE THAN MORE COURSES/CARS AND ADD A FREAKING ONLINE MODE.
I love F-Zero GX. It's one of those games that just plays slick. It's too bad that it didn't sell, considering it's the best racing game I've ever played.
New F-Zero and a new Metroid would make me buy the Wii-U Nintendo. Don't you want my money?
New F-Zero and a new Metroid would make me buy the Wii-U Nintendo. Don't you want my money?
Over my dead body.
It's baffling really, He can't find the right new idea to make it... well leave it to someone else then. The lack of a new idea isn't even an excuse either, that didn't stop them from developing NSMBU, did it?
I don't tend to get this mad here in NeoGAF but fuck I loved GX is the best racing game ever.
FUCK -_-
I don't tend to get this mad here in NeoGAF but fuck I loved GX is the best racing game ever.
FUCK -_-
DragonSworne
Banned
Someone needs to replace Miyamoto now. He has the complete wrong approach to gaming and game development.
Miyamoto is the reason why we have iteration after iteration of the same games and any new ideas are shoehorned into existing franchises instead of letting young developers create new worlds.
Edit - What new idea is being presented in Wind Waker HD? A faster boat?
Miyamoto is the reason why we have iteration after iteration of the same games and any new ideas are shoehorned into existing franchises instead of letting young developers create new worlds.
Edit - What new idea is being presented in Wind Waker HD? A faster boat?
ryūkotsusei
Member
Could you imagine that?
Third person fighter/racer hybrid + Falcon's Smash voice actor + Platinum = YES!!!
No he doesn't.
You're just salty he doesn't want to make a game you want them to make.
Miyamoto is playing it so safe with Pikmin 3...
Fire Emblem was never a big franchise in the west. It always sold either average or below that. Hell we didn't even get the FE before Awakening because Shadow Dragon had gotten such terrible reviews and numbers here.
Awakening, from what I've seen doesn't even have all that many changes to the classic FE line. Relationships were in FE4, the map from FE2, most of the other systems were always in the other games with the only thing new being the ability to pair up. Reclassing was in the FE we didn't get and FE RD and SS had the branching classes thing. I guess it got a few new classes too. So what did they give up on the series?
No they made another one, and people were afraid that we wouldn't get it because we hadn't gotten the last one they had released for the DS. When it finally came over here they actually fucking had a good marketing campaign behind it, and advertised the game. So don't start with that bullshit, FE for all accounts and purposes was a failed franchise in the west, but Nintendo tried at least once more and they actually put some goddamn effort into this one and what was the result?
FE Awakening is the best selling FE probably in the entire series, especially in the west. We have this huge wave of new FE fans now because of the game and none of that would have happened had Nintendo not actually done it's job by making and properly promoting the game.
Give F-Zero the same treatment and I'm sure they can find success again.
catstronaut
Member
tbh I'm not sure Nintendo could top F-Zero GX. So while I'd love to have another game in the series, I don't really think they could do series fans justice.
In every Nintendo thread he wants heads to roll ^^
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qizah
Unconfirmed Member
F-Zero GX was out on a console that didn't have internet play.
All they really need to do is make another F-Zero game with 30 players online and it's already "different" from the last one and sounds really awesome. Running at 60FPS in 1080p would be nice too.
It sucks they don't have plans for a new one right now ...
All they really need to do is make another F-Zero game with 30 players online and it's already "different" from the last one and sounds really awesome. Running at 60FPS in 1080p would be nice too.
It sucks they don't have plans for a new one right now ...
Do you think Nintendo just goes to a dev with an IP and tells them to do whatever with it? I'm pretty sure Nintendo handles the general direction with all IP's they outsource and for a good reason.
And puts the same thing he always does to other franchises as an excuse to not do projects he doesn't like. Go do Wii Music 2 then...
Sorry but I'm boarding the "Miyamoto should leave" train, don't care if he looked cute on those E3 photos anymore.
The third game in a series is your argument that Nintendo doesn't play it safe?
DragonSworne
Banned
They could you know just release a new version each generation for the sake of providing higher fidelity, new tracks, and tweek the game balance.
They do it for a number of their franchises already. Why is F-Zero need new ideas?
Samurai_Heart
Member
F-Zero revival will mean F2P, just you watch...
Azure Phoenix
Member
And this is why I'm starting to wish Miyamoto would stop having such a large input in the games Nintendo puts out, he's been a hindrance in a number of projects now. Don't have any ideas? Then just toss it over to someone else in Nintendo, outsource it, give it to Retro or whatever - just do something with it.
Hell, the series doesn't even need anything new. GX was near perfect as it was - and it still looks amazing to this day - all it needs is a good online mode with lots of players per race, return of Death Race and the track editor from the X 64DD expansion, nothing else.
Hell, the series doesn't even need anything new. GX was near perfect as it was - and it still looks amazing to this day - all it needs is a good online mode with lots of players per race, return of Death Race and the track editor from the X 64DD expansion, nothing else.
Dark Octave
Banned
You have 37 New Super Mario and Mario Kart games out there that are all similar.
Are you serious Miyamoto? Quit being silly and bring out another F-Zero and Starfox.