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IGN: Don't expect a new F-Zero any time soon.
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fly high ~ayunite~
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So why not just re-release GX ala the Wii-makes of Mario Tennis, Golf, etc? Test the waters somewhat...
patrickthehedgehog
Member
One day my friend!
Coldnoodle
Member
If NSMB games were selling 500k copies then I would totally agree, but I think people are not getting what he's saying.
He's merely saying that unlike a Mario Kart, Smash, Zelda or Pokemon, F-Zero won't sell as is.
F-Zero as we know it doesn't have a big enough place in the marketplace anymore, so that's why they need to reinvent that franchise with new ideas.
1080p, 60fps and amazing HD graphics didn't stop the WipEout studio from going under.
fredrancour
Member
Make it a free-to-play download franchise. It would do 100 times better than steel diver. Have a basic assortment of tracks and cars. Cars and avatars give you shit to microtransaction to hell and back. Offer a legit version of the game with single player and maybe more tracks as a download purchase. Bam.
And they still brought back Sin and Punishment, because...VC sales! I guess they just don't see a very big uproar for F-Zero (although they're still trying to keep it in the public eye).
fredrancour
Member
I'm convinced they expected like 100 sales and instead got a few thousand or something like that when it comes to sin and punishment.
Seems like a joke to me. I don't ever recall much demand for a new Kid Icarus game, and the one we got is nothing like the series' previous titles.
Still, if F-Zero won't sell "as is", then there's no point in making it. People like F-Zero for the unique and polished racing gameplay; if you ruin that, you have no real selling point. I don't want some idiotic Captain Falcon action game with a stapled-on racing mode, and I'm not sure any other people do.
Solid SOAP
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I think that F-Zero is a franchise that has potential to come back in a new, creative way, but it would be way too huge of a risk. I think that there would be a pretty decent market for an explorable open world in which you engaged in combat missions as Captain Falcon before each big race, but the cost to make something this ambitious on Wii U hardware would be insane and way too big of a risk for a franchise which was practically dead from the get-go.
I know that Captain Falcon as a character would push a lot of sales, as he has a huge following in Smash, so if they're to reboot this franchise in any way they're going to have to focus on the fact that for the first time ever you can control the captain on foot in some sort of explorable world.
I know that Captain Falcon as a character would push a lot of sales, as he has a huge following in Smash, so if they're to reboot this franchise in any way they're going to have to focus on the fact that for the first time ever you can control the captain on foot in some sort of explorable world.
the fact that is was different was the point.
Forsaken82
Member
More like they don't want to disappoint the fans by developing an average game? That is how I read it...
That being said... as a fan of the franchise, I would be content with a game exactly like GX with just fresh stages. I don't need fancy new mechanics. I just want F-zero GX with online play
OG_Original Gamer
Member
Give it to the guys behind Excite Truck, they may have some great ideas. But, Miyamoto in my opinion that was an lame excuse.
Gucci Messiah
Banned
Why does everything need to be innovative? Just give me more of the same, GX was a great game and we haven't seen a new entry in the series in forever.
I guess your right. My choices of games wasn't really the best but I guess that's due to the fact that in terms of Nintendo's ip it's the best I could come up with that fit the bill.
I was never a fan of F-Zero but I guess I feel that the series has potential. Hell even something small like an eShop game. We saw an F-Zero-ish game in Nintendo land so it's not some relegated piece of crap. At least not yet!
Pai Pai Master
Banned
Ugh. Fucking Miyamoto.
You don't need to come up with some lame gimmick to sell the game. All we want is F-Zero on a modern console with online play. Make a good game and you don't need a "reason" to make it.
Especially now that wipEout is gone....
Just get fucking Sega to do it again, please.
You don't need to come up with some lame gimmick to sell the game. All we want is F-Zero on a modern console with online play. Make a good game and you don't need a "reason" to make it.
Especially now that wipEout is gone....
Just get fucking Sega to do it again, please.
Valjean Lafitte
Banned
Didn't you get the memo? Nintendo is all about innovation these days! They need an impressive new gimmick to justify giving us what we want.
Neuromancer
Member
Why can't this be real?!
Oh yeah and bring back the random track generator from the N64 version. Even if some of the tracks were FUCKED it was still a ton of fun to play.
Teletraan1
Banned
They just need to figure out how to shoe horn Mario into the title and then it will sell.
SolarPowered
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LOL we don't need your ideas, Miyamoto. There are thousands of developers out there making games besides you.
We are lucky. F-Zero should appear on a console with a larger install base.
Solid SOAP
Member
The only thing that I find painfully obvious is how poorly the game would sell.
I just feel that right now, Nintendo are in a prickly position with the Wii U. It's selling horrendously, they don't know what audience they're trying to capture, and overall they don't have much room to take big risks. F-Zero is a franchise that never sold well, so why all of a sudden do people seem to think that producing a big budget racing game from a dead franchise, on a console with low sales, in a market where creating games is costing more and more money is a great idea?
If we get a new F-Zero game, it likely will be later this gen if/when Nintendo have a substantially larger install base on the Wii U, or perhaps they'll create a low budget 3DS game or remake of GX/the original game to appease fans. Even then, there's going to be fans complaining: "It's not on Wii U!" "It's a remake! Fuck you Miyamoto!" Plus, it'll likely sell like shit, so no one wins.
The Xtortionist
Member
A real shame.
I can fuck with this. 900cc LET'S FUCKING GO.
Whiskeymatt
Member
It'll be like the rubberbanding AI in Mario Kart 64 that was capable of breaking the sound barrier, but all the time! It'd be awesome!
MadOdorMachine
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How much would it cost to port over assets from F-Zero GX and create new tracks though? That's the real question. They're already doing it with just about every other franchise they have, so why not F-Zero?
As far as 3DS goes, I'd rather them remake F-Zero X with updated graphics. It's pathetic the lack of racers 3DS has though and Nintendo is missing a huge opportunity by completely skipping it.
it took them 9 years to say that?
so, we need to wait 25 years for a revival like Kid Icarus fans?
Nintendo should just come forward and admit they don't want to make a new one due to the low sales. there's plenty of ideas that could still be used in a new F-Zero like online play and leaderboards, 30 player races, track editor and custom track sharing, mission mode with more unique objectives, etc.
so, we need to wait 25 years for a revival like Kid Icarus fans?
Nintendo should just come forward and admit they don't want to make a new one due to the low sales. there's plenty of ideas that could still be used in a new F-Zero like online play and leaderboards, 30 player races, track editor and custom track sharing, mission mode with more unique objectives, etc.
If they brought it to the 3DS + 10 more tracks, then it would be absolutely glorious. Especially with online and 3D. Goodness me.
why list 60 fps? every F-Zero game is already 60 fps. Nintendo never skimped on this.
Dark Ninja
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GX didn't do great but the anime killed F-Zero. F-Zero GP legend bombed. US didn't even get the last F-Zero game which actually tried to be like GX
A Serious Man
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I'd settle for F-Zero GX HD at this point.
making tracks for F-Zero X has no cost practically since the track editor that already exists for it (Expansion Kit for 64DD) was the same one made to make every track in that game and putting in new tracks involves just replacing some coordinates.
having a re-released F-Zero X with 24 brand new tracks is easier than having just 1 new alternate outfit in SSB4.
Bucket Mouse
Member
A real shame.
Still looks fantastic.
GX didn't do great but the anime killed F-Zero. F-Zero GP legend bombed. US didn't even get the last F-Zero game which actually tried to be like GX
Climax actually tried to combine the mechanics of 2D and 3D F-Zero games since it used both the 1 boost per lap mechanic that FZSNES and MV used and the boost with the health meter after the first lap that X and GX used.
E3 2014:
Reggie: We're announcing F-Zero GX 2 for Wii U. It's being developed by none other than EAD Tokyo. Let's check out the trailer now.
Audience reaction: Wow, this is incredible. It looks so good and it's 60 FPS with online play and off-tv play too! So intense. F- Zero, why haven't I ever played you before ? Best announcement of Nintendo's conference ? No, GAME OF E3 is more like it.
Reggie: We have some more news. We're including a free HD copy of F-Zero GX, but that's not all. We would also like to announce a new F-Zero themed Wii U bundle that comes with an exclusive music CD. By the way, the game also supports the use of Wii U pro classic controllers.
- After E3 -
Reggie: Miyamoto, the announcement surpassed our expectations! The hands-on impressions are glowing.
Miyamoto: I suppose it did, but I'm still not sure if gamers really want F-Zero. I mean, it may be too hardcore for its own good.
Miyamoto: [looks up first month's NPD sales of the game: 50k copies] I fucking knew it. No one buys F-Zero!
Reggie: ... So what do you want the development team to do next ?
Miyamoto: Let's make Super Mario 3D World 2.
Reggie: With cats ?
Miyamoto: Yes, with cats.
Reggie: Didn't we already make that game ?
Miyamoto: We'll be adding Yoshi so it is an entirely new game.
Reggie: Okay. Anything else ?
Miyamoto: No online play.
Reggie: We're announcing F-Zero GX 2 for Wii U. It's being developed by none other than EAD Tokyo. Let's check out the trailer now.
Audience reaction: Wow, this is incredible. It looks so good and it's 60 FPS with online play and off-tv play too! So intense. F- Zero, why haven't I ever played you before ? Best announcement of Nintendo's conference ? No, GAME OF E3 is more like it.
Reggie: We have some more news. We're including a free HD copy of F-Zero GX, but that's not all. We would also like to announce a new F-Zero themed Wii U bundle that comes with an exclusive music CD. By the way, the game also supports the use of Wii U pro classic controllers.
- After E3 -
Reggie: Miyamoto, the announcement surpassed our expectations! The hands-on impressions are glowing.
Miyamoto: I suppose it did, but I'm still not sure if gamers really want F-Zero. I mean, it may be too hardcore for its own good.
Miyamoto: [looks up first month's NPD sales of the game: 50k copies] I fucking knew it. No one buys F-Zero!
Reggie: ... So what do you want the development team to do next ?
Miyamoto: Let's make Super Mario 3D World 2.
Reggie: With cats ?
Miyamoto: Yes, with cats.
Reggie: Didn't we already make that game ?
Miyamoto: We'll be adding Yoshi so it is an entirely new game.
Reggie: Okay. Anything else ?
Miyamoto: No online play.
Doc Holliday
SPOILER: Columbus finds America
Shit at least we got a great F-zero game on gamecube. Where is my Waverace sequel? Bluestorm doesn't count because it sucked!
You forgot about investing in marketing for both the game and the bundle. Just like with almost every damn game that deserved better.
If a new F-Zero did come out, three things would happen.
1. People would complain about it not being on one of the HD twins and not buy it.
2. People would complain about it being different and not buy it.
3. People would complain about it being the same and not buy it.
Next year when Smash Bros. hits?
1. People would complain about it not being on one of the HD twins and not buy it.
2. People would complain about it being different and not buy it.
3. People would complain about it being the same and not buy it.
I'm saying it would bomb.
Next year when Smash Bros. hits?
Shigeru Miyamoto said:
Like everyone else has already said... Online is the next big thing for the F-Zero franchise and Nintendo should test the fanbase interest with a HD port of the F-Zero GX.
I have grown tired of Nintendo's more popular franchises and F-Zero GX Online would be a system seller for me. I'm sure there are many other longtime Nintendo fans who feel the same way.
Just make F-Zero GX...in HD. have all the features of AX in the game. Give the game AA, improve textures and some models, make the game look better, also give it online where 30 people can play on one track with a competitive point system and league. Also update the CG scenes to more modern standards and make them into HD.
Oh and if you can't bank on it selling well as a physical release, put it as digital only on Wii U and hype it up on the E-shop. That = instant buys.
Oh and if you can't bank on it selling well as a physical release, put it as digital only on Wii U and hype it up on the E-shop. That = instant buys.