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IGN Guilty Gear Review [Wii] -- WTF?

HAL_Laboratory said:
http://wii.ign.com/articles/828/828947p1.html

5.9

So they rated the game pretty highly in all aspects aside from control (which they say is fixed via the Classic Controller), but then give the game a 5.9? Doesn't really make sense.

You gave the score away! Why did you spoiler it then?

Actually I heard Guilty Gear's controls for the Wii were really goddamn awful. It doesn't really matter if you have a Classic Controller, but there are some poor souls out there who can only go at it via the Wiimote, so I guess the review is just for them. Maybe they should've put the disclaimer "Add three points if you own a Classic Controller" or somesuch thing.
 
2.6 points lower than PS2 version, but PS2 version costs $10 less. I guess I'm going with the PS2 version... >_>
 
SovanJedi said:
so I guess the review is just for them. Maybe they should've put the disclaimer "Add three points if you own a Classic Controller" or somesuch thing.

This is what they say:

If you happen to be the proud owner of a Classic Controller, just consider the Wii version's score to be identical to the PS2 version.

The PS2 versions score is 8.5 btw.
 
They probably marked it down for forcing you to pick up an accessory to have a decent experience with it. It doesn't sound like the Wiimote works well at all.
 
it's a completely fair review. The game is great if you buy an extra controller. That's bullshit.

They should have focused on the playing the game nes style, instead of forcing motion controls
 
It sucks they theu rated the gameplay low because of controls. They rated it as if the wiimote was the only option. What reason is there not to factor in the CC? It's a part of the game and an alternate control method.
 
avatar299 said:
it's a completely fair review. The game is great if you buy an extra controller. That's bullshit.

They should have focused on the playing the game nes style, instead of forcing motion controls

You've got a point. It's really stupid to me that most devs don't implement NES style controls for simple games.

Monkey Ball, *cough
 
Add more points if you have the Hori stick. It's perfect with this game. But I can see why considering it's the standard setup for the game if you don't have any peripherals like the Hori or the classic. The Wii-mote controls are poorly contrived.
 
I swear, spoilering review scores needs to be banned. Its more annoying than Wiitards hijacking PS2/PSP threads crying for Wii ports.
 
Nintendo really should put one classic controller in every Wii. It'd probably cost them $5 a console to do it, but it'd open the system up to more traditional titles that don't force people to buy a peripheral. It'd also make way for more VC purchases.
 
is anyone getting this game and not going to play it with the CC

then again some reviews docked points from RE4 for the new control method forgetting it has regular controller support.
 
Sounds a bit too harsh - although I agree on docking points for bad Wiimote experience and $10 more expensive than PS2 version.

If MK for Wii was able to get a decent Wiimote experience and still get docked a bit for it, I don't see why GG can get a break for having crummy Wiimote control.
 
When is the Hori Arcade Stick/Pad coming?

I thought Gamestop was supposed to be getting it this month.

I talked to them a few weeks ago, and they didn't know anything.

Wouldn't that be the idea controller for a fighting game like this?


Besides, if you own a Wii, then you should be waiting for the Brawl anyway. I plan on playing Brawl with as many controllers that will connect to the game... including the GH3 Guitar.
 
Forgotten Ancient said:
Nintendo really should put one classic controller in every Wii. It'd probably cost them $5 a console to do it, but it'd open the system up to more traditional titles that don't force people to buy a peripheral. It'd also make way for more VC purchases.

I doubt it would change reviews. This guy complain that he doesn't like the waggle controls but then complains that it's like the PS2 version when using the CC. He also doesn't consider the CC in the score. Thats like dock a game because you hate the default button config but config B and C were perfect.
 
angelfly said:
It sucks they theu rated the gameplay low because of controls. They rated it as if the wiimote was the only option. What reason is there not to factor in the CC? It's a part of the game and an alternate control method.
It's an additional accessory that you need to buy, and not everyone has the classic controller. The score is based on the default control scheme, and mention quite a few times in the review that the game would be the 8.5 it got on the PS2 if you have the CC.
 
Forgotten Ancient said:
Nintendo really should put one classic controller in every Wii. It'd probably cost them $5 a console to do it, but it'd open the system up to more traditional titles that don't force people to buy a peripheral. It'd also make way for more VC purchases.
I agree. I've actually seen Wiimote/Nunchuk/CC bundles at Sam's Club and maybe $5-10 less than if bought seperately. If I had seen them sooner I might have bought one when I got my Wii.

I'm going to get a Hori stick. I want to know how well it works on Metal Slug as well.

Bebpo said:
In Japan. The US versions of both were supposed to fix the bugs.
Ah, that's right. Thanks. :)
 
angelfly said:
It sucks they theu rated the gameplay low because of controls. They rated it as if the wiimote was the only option. What reason is there not to factor in the CC? It's a part of the game and an alternate control method.

If the CC wasn't an additional purchase, I'd agree with you, but needing to buy an additional device to enjoy a game correctly is pretty unacceptable.
 
angelfly said:
I doubt it would change reviews. This guy complain that he doesn't like the waggle controls but then complains that it's like the PS2 version when using the CC. He also doesn't consider the CC in the score. Thats like dock a game because you hate the default button config but config B and C were perfect.
config B and C didn't cost an extra 20 bucks.

i understand the complaints, and maybe the score it low, but the reasoning is sound.

Edit:beaten
 
I'm starting to think that since there have been so many raving reviews lately (Bioshock, Halo 3, Orange Box, etc.) they feel the need to slam some games to bring the average down a bit.
 
K.Jack said:
If the CC wasn't an additional purchase, I'd agree with you, but needing to buy an additional device to enjoy a game correctly is pretty unacceptable.

Thats bs. Going by that logic, VF5 should have it's scores docked because its shitty to play with the PS3/360 standard controller.
 
K.Jack said:
If the CC wasn't an additional purchase, I'd agree with you, but needing to buy an additional device to enjoy a game correctly is pretty unacceptable.

What he said.
 
speculawyer said:
I'm starting to think that since there have been so many raving reviews lately (Bioshock, Halo 3, Orange Box, etc.) they feel the need to slam some games to bring the average down a bit.

Only those crappy Take Two games.
 
Kyoufu said:
Thats bs. Going by that logic, VF5 should have it's scores docked because its shitty to play with the PS3/360 standard controller.

Too bad this isn't the case. :lol

But ok. All fighting games get a 5.0 for control unless you have an arcade stick. Automatically. Happy?
 
I say pack your own version of the CC with the game and charge extra. At worst it'll be like GH or Time Crisis, at best you've got another Wii Play on your hands.
 
Segata Sanshiro said:
I say pack your own version of the CC with the game and charge extra. At worst it'll be like GH or Time Crisis, at best you've got another Wii Play on your hands.
If they did that, then this score is absolute bullshit.
 
Kyoufu said:
Thats bs. Going by that logic, VF5 should have it's scores docked because its shitty to play with the PS3/360 standard controller.
The PS3 d-pad is pretty acceptable, at least in my case, but I don't doubt the 360 will get knocked for that at least a little bit. That being said, I weirdly never had a problem with it playing the demo (360). It's pretty functional and I managed to get a lot of moves off with ease.
 
Kintaro said:
Too bad this isn't the case. :lol

But ok. All fighting games get a 5.0 for control unless you have an arcade stick. Automatically. Happy?

lol wait what? I didn't think I'd see anybody disagree with what I said.

I find VF an absolute nightmare with any non-saturn controller. Its so bad that I was forced to buy high grade sticks.

duffey said:
The PS3 d-pad is pretty acceptable, at least in my case, but I don't doubt the 360 will get knocked for that at least a little bit. That being said, I weirdly never had a problem with it playing the demo (360). It's pretty functional and I managed to get a lot of moves off with ease.

The dpad isn't bad for fighting games, but when it comes to VF, the whole controller fails hard. Only the sega saturn's (or hori's) 6 face button controllers were any good for the game.
 
Kyoufu said:
I swear, spoilering review scores needs to be banned. Its more annoying than Wiitards hijacking PS2/PSP threads crying for Wii ports.
I swear the use of xbots and wiitards needs to be a bannable offense because all those words do is proliferate the console wars.
 
i don't see why anyone would want this game for wii anyway. if you've been playing the series like me, you already have a ps2 and possibly already have an arcade stick for ps2.
 
Kyoufu said:
lol wait what? I didn't think I'd see anybody disagree with what I said.

I find VF an absolute nightmare with any non-saturn controller. Its so bad that I was forced to buy high grade sticks.

Plenty of people disagree with what you said.

Granted, it's a matter of personal taste. I have a VF High Grade myself (a must since I collection fighting games), but I can play VF5 on sixaxis just fine as well.
 
Jirotrom said:
I swear the use of xbots and wiitards needs to be a bannable offense because all those words do is proliferate the console wars.
how about bitter tears? :lol
those words are used a lot and do nothing as well.
 
I guess its mainly for the fact that you need to pay an extra 30 dollars to even reach the PS2 experience.

Of course who the heck would buy guilty gear and not have a CC or joystick for VC games and in preparations for other fighters. I mean I don't think the Ma and PA owners of the Wii would by guilty gear.
 
Segata Sanshiro said:
I say pack your own version of the CC with the game and charge extra. At worst it'll be like GH or Time Crisis, at best you've got another Wii Play on your hands.

yeah, they could have packed in something like this that plugs into the Gamecube controller slot.

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slaughterking said:
This is what they say:

The PS2 versions score is 8.5 btw.
Wii version adds widescreen support too iirc.



duffey said:
It's an additional accessory that you need to buy, and not everyone has the classic controller.
So... can we expect the same treatment with Rock Band, Time Crisis 4 and Guitar Hero III this fall? :lol
 
Kintaro said:
Too bad this isn't the case. :lol

But ok. All fighting games get a 5.0 for control unless you have an arcade stick. Automatically. Happy?

What about lightgun games?
 
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