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[Bobby Roberts]

All this articles and not a mention of Cavill or Supes for that matter, hell he wasn't even there for all I know.

Nah, they mentioned him. He's gonna have longer hair.

Maybe THIS will be the movie where they finally use the theme song Zimmer gave him to underscore him like, being heroic. And enjoying it.

Stuff like that.

Smiling.

Mullet in the breeze. Trumpets blaring.

 

[Discotheque]

All this articles and not a mention of Cavill or Supes for that matter, hell he wasn't even there for all I know.

Apparently he won't be present at all in the first half. It makes sense. Would be wack if he resurrected so soon. Plus if they actually get it right his clutch save should be epic.

 

[SlimySnake]

Has a solid track record, worked on the Hardhorne and Battle of the Bastards episodes in Game of Thrones. Both of those eps had an impressive action-packed single-shot sequence.

oh my god yes.

One thing about BvS was that it looked fantastic. Those GoT episodes look phenomenal as well. Hype!

 

[Tabby]

All this articles and not a mention of Cavill or Supes for that matter, hell he wasn't even there for all I know.

Or Green Lantern. Hype deflated.

I'm not surprised though. He did just die at the end of BvS, if he shows up in the first half I'll be be slightly disappointed.

 

[DeathoftheEndless]

I'm curious how far into the movie Superman shows up. He's not in the rooftop scene, where most of the team is already assembled and know about the villain's plot.

Edit: damn, just a little too late

 

[IconGrist]

All this articles and not a mention of Cavill or Supes for that matter, hell he wasn't even there for all I know.

Not only was he not mentioned...

 

[Pop-O-Matic]

Not only was he not mentioned...

They're trying really hard to sell the death of a character who was already teased to come back at the end of the last movie...

 

[Blade30]

They're trying really hard to sell the death of a character who was already teased to come back at the end of the last movie...

I think these are the upcoming movies, not the justice league team (why else would suicide squad be there? )

 

[Smokey_Run]

Not only was he not mentioned...

That's from a Licensing Expo in Vegas, not the Justice League set. Those are all announced films, if there was a new Superman film announced in some capacity, it'd like have a logo there too.

 

[Raptor]

Nah, they mentioned him. He's gonna have longer hair.

Maybe THIS will be the movie where they finally use the theme song Zimmer gave him to underscore him like, being heroic. And enjoying it.

Stuff like that.

Smiling.

Mullet in the breeze. Trumpets blaring.

Apparently he won't be present at all in the first half. It makes sense. Would be wack if he resurrected so soon. Plus if they actually get it right his clutch save should be epic.

Oh my lord, if he comes back with that theme blasting with that longer hair moving with the wind to save them all I think I will faint there :O

 

[IconGrist]

That's from a Licensing Expo in Vegas, not the Justice League set. Those are all announced films, if there was a new Superman film announced in some capacity, it'd like have a logo there too.

No Shazam either.

 

[Tsukumo]

Too bad then, I guess. Having a different tone was the only thing these movies would have got going on for themselves. This route will just leave them ten steps behind Disney/Marvel as they've always been.

 

[NumberTwo]

I've been adamant about Snyder's involvement with this project from the jump and think he is a total misfit for what WB is needs this franchise to be. That said, I can only imagine how he and Deborah are just ready for this whole ordeal to be over. Just to be done with it and resign themselves to exec/producer status. The quotes we'll be reading from him 10 years from now should be amusing though.

 

[SpaceWolf]

This is like an increasingly nervous architect giving us a tour of a flimsily built palace built upon a foundation of quicksand, trying to hide the fear in their eyes as they assure us that the slightly brighter lighting fixtures in several of the main rooms is going to make all the difference, whilst all the while the palace sinks inch by inch into the muddy depths around them.

 

[Bobby Roberts]

^^ that's pretty good. ^^

 

[Smokey_Run]

No Shazam either.

As I've said in the community thread a couple times now, I still don't think Shazam happens and doubt it actually ties into the DCEU if it does -- winks and nods at most. It was sent to New Line for a reason.

 

[Sojgat]

Watch them make it too light and funny.

Zack Snyder's Super Friends movie is going to be great.

 

[Raptor]

Just picture him with the suit:

:O

 

[Discotheque]

basura

just give him a mel gibson lethal weapon-esque mullet wig. and a beard.

 

[Garlador]

Nah, Snyder is right on the money, folks keep hollering about how superman had to be one way. Man of steel made superman interesting, but it was drowned in a sea of not my superman. BvS popped the bubble with Batman being a "killer" and Clark being "sad" and emotionless.

Man of Steel made Superman "interesting" in the same way that Metroid: Other M made Samus Aran "interesting".

"Interesting" doesn't translate to "good". Not by a long shot.

And Superman doesn't have to be "one way", but he could at least be, you know, SUPERMAN.

 

[DaveH]

All this articles and not a mention of Cavill or Supes for that matter, hell he wasn't even there for all I know.

He's there.

Unsurprisingly, Warner Bros. turned it up for the final presentation on the first day of CineEurope in Barcelona, bursting straight into its expanding DC universe with the promise of at least 10 new superhero movies over the next five years.

Crowds on Monday were treated to an extended Suicide Squad trailer, an exclusive behind-the-scenes sneak peek of Wonder Woman and a short skip to the London set of Justice League where Zack Snyder, Gal Gadot and Henry Cavill gave a brief video hello.

 

[Grizzlyjin]

Won't Be Fooled Again started playing in my head as I read this article.

 

[DaveH]

Just picture him with the suit:



:O

More like:

Beard!

 

[Raptor]

My God look at him!!

Glorious!1

 

[A.D. Skinner]

I don't even feel like the lighter tone is a shift in the movies production at this point. The film is obviousky going to be lighter as BvS had to be dark. There will also be characters like Barry Allen, and others who just weren't around. The film overall won't be "lighter" but will have characters bringing "light" so to speak.

They'll use the chance to talk about it being lighter as they know the darkness was something people didn't like, so while I still feel it's a side effect, it's good to talk about it to attract attention and gauge responses.

I mean, SS is the perfect example. That movie is grim, but the characters lighten it therefore, it isn't as dark.

 

[MHWilliams]

This says "Soviet propaganda" not "lighter Justice League".

It'll be interesting to see the final product.

 

[- J - D -]

Kinda hard for a superhero movie to not be more fun than BvS, isn't it? Even the Nolan Bat movies were more upbeat.

 

[Discotheque]

This says "Soviet propaganda" not "lighter Justice League".

It'll be interesting to see the final product.

heh. i think it would make a great logo for a new cartoon series tbh. i love it.

 

[Lord Virgin]

Nah, they mentioned him. He's gonna have longer hair.

Maybe THIS will be the movie where they finally use the theme song Zimmer gave him to underscore him like, being heroic. And enjoying it.

Stuff like that.

Smiling.

Mullet in the breeze. Trumpets blaring.

Hehe, you still hung up on that one. Aren't you?

I agree, Zimmers MoS theme is Godtier but tbf there wasn't a scene in BvS that you could have used it properly.

My ultimate JL fantasy: The league is beaten down. They are giving it their all but it seem futile, it's overwhelming them. Then, we hear the theme building up. And it's building and building, and once Superman enters the frame go all out. Blaring the MoS theme, there he is their God. Their savior.

*cries*

 

[Sou Da]

I don't ever want to see Superman with a manbun. Ever.

 

[Raptor]

He has to say something like:

"We will not go quietly into the night!" We will not vanish without a fight! We're going to live on! We're going to survive! Today we celebrate our Independence Day!

 

[MegaManTrigger]

I disagree. I very much prefer Civil War to BvS, but the villain and his plan is one of the few areas I'd give it to BvS. Which is sad, in a way. Daniel Bruhl is fantastic.

How is Luthor's plan any better? It's hamfisted, the whole fulcrum behind the movie was two heroes fighting, but it's forced as hell because Luthor is the one who tells Superman who to fight, instead of the conflict being organic in the story.

 

[- J - D -]

Reading further up to and including Deb Snyder's comments, I don't think they get it. I truly don't think they understand what was wrong with BvS at its most basic levels.

Also, I did just think of a superhero movie that BvS was lighter/funner than (but not as enjoyable, mind you): M. Night Shyamalan's Unbreakable. I really like that movie.

I'd rather gamble on Shyamalan at this point. A Superman or Batman movie by him could have been good.

 

[atr0cious]

How is Luthor's plan any better? It's hamfisted, the whole fulcrum behind the movie was two heroes fighting, but it's forced as hell because Luthor is the one who tells Superman who to fight, instead of the conflict being organic in the story.

What does this even mean? The entire movie is a setup to get Batman to fight Clark. The movie is specifically shot and framed from Batman's point of view, which is probably why they felt they could cut so much Clark for the theatrical release.

 

[IconGrist]

How is Luthor's plan any better? It's hamfisted, the whole fulcrum behind the movie was two heroes fighting, but it's forced as hell because Luthor is the one who tells Superman who to fight, instead of the conflict being organic in the story.

Because, as I mentioned before, Lex did a lot of the work to create the conflict. Not just with Batman but with the public. Zemo took advantage of a situation caused by the Avengers. All he really had was a video to show Stark.

 

[boiled goose]

Eh, this is VERY subjective, I think that the backlash is more attributable to it being wildly different from mainstream comic book movie (i.e. Marvel apparoch) expectations.

As a drama, BvS is more solid than most Marvel films.

Spoiler

Too bad that their big finale is made useless by the credit scene.

Haha nope. Bad movies are bad. Movie was not only rejected by audiences but panned by critics and many fans.

 

[Dash_Riprock]

As a drama, BvS is more solid than most Marvel films.

This is the second funniest post I've read all year.

 

[fanboi]

Just picture him with the suit:



:O

 

[MegaManTrigger]

What does this even mean? The entire movie is a setup to get Batman to fight Clark. The movie is specifically shot and framed from Batman's point of view, which is probably why they felt they could cut so much Clark for the theatrical release.

Organic to story means you can buy the conflict without having to suspend disbelief. And there's absolutely no way I can buy that conflict in BvS was organic to the story. It was heavy handed, obvious, and a bait-and-switch from the ideological aspects that the trailers were suggesting. Whether it was shot or portrayed from Batman's perspective is completely irrelevant once you realize that Superman did nothing to escalate the conflict between the two heroes.

Because, as I mentioned before, Lex did a lot of the work to create the conflict. Not just with Batman but with the public. Zemo took advantage of a situation caused by the Avengers. All he really had was a video to show Stark.

The public already saw Superman as a controversial figure (Battle of Metropolis, Terrorist activity in South Africa, breaking borders to save people), so Lex didn't have to do much in terms of setting up the public/governments to distrust him. The only thing he did of significance was to kidnap Martha Kent and tell Superman to fight Batman or else his mom would die. Moreover, Zemo did more than just show a video, unless you think Civil War is only that 15-min fight scene between Stark, Rogers and Bucky. Furthermore, he manipulated Stark's side into going after Captain America and his supporters.

 

[IconGrist]

The public already saw Superman as a controversial figure (Battle of Metropolis, Terrorist activity in South Africa, breaking borders to save people), so Lex didn't have to do much in terms of setting up the public/governments to distrust him. The only thing he did of significance was to kidnap Martha Kent and tell Superman to fight Batman or else his mom would die. Moreover, Zemo did more than just show a video, unless you think Civil War is only that 15-min fight scene between Stark, Rogers and Bucky. Furthermore, he manipulated Stark's side into going after Captain America and his supporters.

The battle of Metropolis was 2 years prior. Superman had won the public favor by the time BvS comes around. It was the US government that wasn't quite sold on him. Lex set up the Africa situation and hired an actress to blame the deaths on Superman. Lex had the man in prison "branded" with the Bat symbol killed. Then he sent the photos of it to Clark. Lex was responsible for the Senate bombing. Lex sent the paychecks with those messages to Bruce. How are none of those significant? All of those played a huge part in getting Batman and Superman to fight.

All Zemo did was frame Bucky for a bombing and then showed Stark a video. All the conflict before that started with the Sokovia Accords which came about after the mishap with Scarlet Witch. Zemo framing Bucky only added a push to an existing problem.

Batman didn't bother with Superman until Lex started manipulating him.

 

[ThoseDeafMutes]

I disagree. I very much prefer Civil War to BvS, but the villain and his plan is one of the few areas I'd give it to BvS. Which is sad, in a way. Daniel Bruhl is fantastic.

It's so odd for Civil War's villain plot to be so vague. It was a real underpants gnome situation.

 

[Schweinehund]

Not a huge surprise to me, given BvS's reception from both audiences and critics and Terrio saying JL was going to be the lightest of the three movies. It was too ambitious and Zack came up short of hitting it for most people, even though I enjoyed the movie and am looking forward to the Ultimate Edition.

Think I'm most excited to see Flash with movie level budget in Justice League, as well as more WW. Would kill for a Shazam tease/cameo though.

 

[cj_iwakura]

I liked BvS' tone, so I just hope they strike a balance instead of going full Marvel silly.

 

[G-Fex]

oh man! I hope they're self referential too!

 

[Bleepey]

Yep, people throw around "pretentious" all the time when discussing certain art films. But given that the actual definition of 'pretentious' is: "attempting to impress by affecting greater importance, talent, culture, etc., than is actually possessed." Batman V Superman is the poster child for pretentious films.

Well that's like your opinion man.

 

[Vic_Viper]

Sounds like it will be based loosely on Geoff Johns Justice League,

Spoiler

especially the first arc "War".

. Not that people weren't expecting that already.

I hope a Green Lantern will be in the film.

 

[Alienous]

Vulture Justice League Coverage

The rooftop scene we watched them film was hardly a barnstormer, filled as it was with dutiful exposition and actor-thwarting lines like, “The demons must have caught the scent of the Mother Box,”

 

[Bleepey]

I love how she is basically saying BvS was "too smart" for audiences.

Fuck you, Deb.

Regardless, looks like once again, WB is learning the wrong lessons from BvS' failures and Marvel's success. Was BvS too dark? Yes, BUT, a good script and director could still have pulled it off.

Right now, Justice League looks to have neither of those.

Considering how audiences needed to have Martha scene explained to them like they were 5 I don't think it's far from the truth.

 

[Dash_Riprock]

Considering how audiences needed to have Martha scene explained to them like they were 5 I don't think it's far from the truth.

Well that's like your opinion man.

 

[Ashhong]

All this articles and not a mention of Cavill or Supes for that matter, hell he wasn't even there for all I know.

I noticed that as well. Not a single mention. Assuming he comes back in the latter half, which matches up with what the Snyder's have said before: There is no need for the team to form if Superman is alive. Him being dead is the ammo that Batman needs to get people to join the JL.