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[imastalker co.]

there's never been an option to change buttons in Mario Kart.

so here's hoping. i really hate using the A button for gas.

 

[jj984jj]

If Revolution could handle Unreal Tournament 2007 it would be the best console version. Going by their comments though they seem to have already made their mind up not to support it.

I think that is exactly it, the Revolution cannot handle the Unreal 3 engine so Epic is downplaying it. In other words: "Wahhh Revolution can't be a successful next-gen. system because developers must use our engine to make games! WAHHH!"

 

[Timedog]

Just like most gamers, Epic is not a huge fan of the ideas behind Revolution. Big Deal.

 

[Silverbolt]

I think that is exactly it, the Revolution cannot handle the Unreal 3 engine so Epic is downplaying it. In other words: "Wahhh Revolution can't be a successful next-gen. system because developers must use our engine to make games! WAHHH!"

Mark did a neat thing where he asked the audience to raise their hands if they owned gamecube. Then he asked who ONLY owned a gamecube, not multiplatform. Only about 10% of the audience raised their hands.

I think he was trying to show that Nintendo fans are an extremely vocal minority in the consoles. Developers make games for the biggest audience possible, I don't think that's a difficult thing to understand.

 

[James-Ape]

I don't really see the need for Epic? staff to rubbish other developers or hardware, but i think it's a pretty sad industry wide probelm.

 

[capslock]

Mark did a neat thing where he asked the audience to raise their hands if they owned gamecube. Then he asked who ONLY owned a gamecube, not multiplatform. Only about 10% of the audience raised their hands.

I think he was trying to show that Nintendo fans are an extremely vocal minority in the consoles. Developers make games for the biggest audience possible, I don't think that's a difficult thing to understand.

OMFG that's brilliant!


By the way, this badly needs the "I see what you did there" owl pic, only modified to to say "I see what he did there".

 

[HomerSimpson-Man]

Mark did a neat thing where he asked the audience to raise their hands if they owned gamecube. Then he asked who ONLY owned a gamecube, not multiplatform. Only about 10% of the audience raised their hands.

I think he was trying to show that Nintendo fans are an extremely vocal minority in the consoles. Developers make games for the biggest audience possible, I don't think that's a difficult thing to understand.

Looking at consoles sales for North America I can see it.

 

[Kroole]

Mark did a neat thing where he asked the audience to raise their hands if they owned gamecube. Then he asked who ONLY owned a gamecube, not multiplatform. Only about 10% of the audience raised their hands.

So he's basing the results of next-gen on the sellingratio of this generation? No problem about that but if that's the case, why is he even developing for X-Box360 when obviously PS3 is they way to go, I mean, based on this generation where the X-box has ~the same market-share as Nintendo.

 

[MightyHedgehog]

Did you miss the part where MS is publishing the title? While PS3 will most certainly sell well, they aren't guaranteed to make for a better platform than the MS one. Perhaps the development team also (non-publicly) prefers the development environment and hardware of the X360 right now...or, perhaps, the fact that X360 game development started a lot earlier than Sony's next-gen had some play into that decision...who the fuck knows or cares, really... Everyone's starting from zero again...some with more momentum than others....but, as we've seen in previous generations, things are rarely easy to accurately predict from before and even in the first couple of years into a generation how everything plays out.

As a Nintendo fan, I assume, you well know the idea that profitability is not directly tied to market share. (Though, market share loss or stagnation is generally the same as not expanding as a business...and that's almost never good for profitability in the long-term as your costs rise.) As a gamer, you probably noticed that FPS and action-shooting titles tend to sell very well on the XBOX...enough for them to represent the best-selling genres/gametypes on MS' current gen system outside of sports, right? That trend is very, very likely to continue on the X360....though with a lot more diversification in popular genres this time out thanks to a broader focus and much stronger commitment from third parties who have gained confidence in MS' platform.

In the end, I really think it's pointless to try and come up with reasons for why someone is making X game for Y company...you may never know exactly why it is unless they come out and make it obvious. So, why give a shit? Platform manufacturers need many exclusives to stand out...so there's a pretty big clue there, IMO.

 

[Shompola]

Did you miss the part where MS is publishing the title?

I swear some people are blind or incredible dumb... They nag about how Epic is not on Nintendo but on MS... Read for fucks sake and youll know why.... Good post btw MightyHedgehog

 

[cybamerc]

In the end, I really think it's pointless to try and come up with reasons for why someone is making X game for Y company...

You're missing the point. Mark Rein is a wanker. He's not making any sense. He's so busy sucking off all of his business partners at once that he's not getting enough oxygen to his brain which is preventing him from thinking clearly.

 

[MightyHedgehog]

I know you're Mark's biggest fan, but this isn't about him. It's about GoW...or so I thought.

 

[AniHawk]

cyba, why didja have to derail THIS THREAD? Aren't there enough fucking threads specifically about Nintendo out there? Couldn'tja just've LET THIS ONE GO?

This also loosely applies to Manabyte and shpankey. I mean good fuck it's about Gears of War and it sounds really damn impressive.

 

[Ryudo]

You're missing the point. Mark Rein is a wanker. He's not making any sense. He's so busy sucking off all of his business partners at once that he's not getting enough oxygen to his brain which is preventing him from thinking clearly.

Not making sense how ?

 

[cybamerc]

cyba, why didja have to derail THIS THREAD?

I didn't. While the topic only mentions GoW other things are included in the post and I commented on that.

Perhaps the thread could be split into two?

 

[Amir0x]

You're missing the point. Mark Rein is a wanker. He's not making any sense. He's so busy sucking off all of his business partners at once that he's not getting enough oxygen to his brain which is preventing him from thinking clearly.

cybamerc
Will start substantiating his hate

hmmmmm

 

[Shompola]

You're missing the point. Mark Rein is a wanker. He's not making any sense. He's so busy sucking off all of his business partners at once that he's not getting enough oxygen to his brain which is preventing him from thinking clearly.

So Mark Rein is getting funded by MS and now he is sweet talking them. Big deal.

 

[cybamerc]

cybamerc
Will start substantiating his hate

Although I don't understand why I got that tag I think I've made it clear what my issues are in this thread.

 

[MightyHedgehog]

Then why do you feel the need to keep on reiterating them?

 

[cybamerc]

Then why do you feel the need to keep on reiterating them?

Because I think you probably misunderstood the posters you responded to. I think people realize how the industry work it's just his comments that some people take issue with.

 

[Amir0x]

Although I don't understand why I got that tag I think I've made it clear what my issues are in this thread.

Explain, in detail, exactly how many dicks Mark Rein must suck before he starts losing oxygen. Provide sources and validated links to suppliment your response. Then describe how you feel his "dicksuckingness" contributed to making perfectly viable business decisions and arguably harmless comments. Extra credit points for hands-on experience.

 

[MightyHedgehog]

Isn't there a formula for that somewhere? :lol Ah, too bad about this thread...

 

[Chrono]

I know trolls are trolls, no matter what, but this is mostly Nintendo's fault. Dammit on one hand they say TP looks next-gen and that with GCN they've reached a point where more powerful hardware isn't necessary, and on the other hand iwata goes on about 'wow' and how you won't notice a difference if you're playing on an SDTV.

Then there's the controller. SHOW SOME GAMES. You already gave away the secret. All the demos did was show that it did work - NOT that it will help innovation. There's no difference between flicking the controller right to move mario and to just push the analog stick to the right. If Nintendo is betting on the 'fresh' feeling of the controller they're done for. If the next mario game or whatever killer app nintendo is hiding (and they better have one) doesn't show why the controller is needed, if people go and say 'well we can do that with normal controllers,' then that's it for nintendo. And by new experiences I don't mean flipping a frying pan. Yeah you can't do that with as much precision using current controllers but who freakin' cares.

With the bongos and all that stuff I have a feeling Nintendo is thinking doing the same action on screen with a different input method is innovation, even though it's the same damn thing.

Miyamoto said mario will be controlled with motion on revolution. I'm guessing the game will only use the remote. We'll see than how 2 buttons + a dpad will work in a great game. It could be just mario sunshine with 'flick the wand' mini-games or mario 64 all over again. We'll see I guess. Though I already don't like the idea of controlling mario with motion. What if you move your hand or want to sit some where else? I can see it getting annoying. Maybe the start button will allow that and 'reset' everything to the new position but you still have to keep your hand in the same place while playing. [/rant]

 

[Ghost]

I wish i was a doctor so i could prescribe Cybamerc some medicinal marijuana, dude needs to chill out.

 

[Speevy]

Although I don't understand why I got that tag I think I've made it clear what my issues are in this thread.

EVERYTHING YOU POST IS NEGATIVE

 

[yoopoo]

IGN Live panel disscussion video http://media.cube.ign.com/articles/661/661405/vids_1.html

Huge download, haven't watched it yet.

 

[GhaleonEB]

Explain, in detail, exactly how many dicks Mark Rein must suck before he starts losing oxygen. Provide sources and validated links to suppliment your response. Then describe how you feel his "dicksuckingness" contributed to making perfectly viable business decisions and arguably harmless comments. Extra credit points for hands-on experience.

:lol :lol

Nice.

 

[argon]

IGN Live panel disscussion video http://media.cube.ign.com/articles/661/661405/vids_1.html

Huge download, haven't watched it yet.

Wow, just listening to him talk.. Mark Rein really is a wanker.

 

[masud]

I think Nintendo is on to something with this new controller. I have yet to see anyone that that has actually used it say anything bad about it. And Japanese developers seem to be really taken with the controller. I think what this panel has shown is that Nintendo has make little to no effort to get western developers interested in the Revolution. I mean these developers know as little as we do about the system, so given Nintendo’s position in the industry comments like these are expected. If Nintendo believes that the remote is really the next best thing for FPS’s then why hasn’t every major FPS developer had the opportunity to mess around with it? I'm sure Matt Cassimasina has more hands on experience with the controller than the guys at ID do, and that’s just fucking retarded.

BTW GoW is pretty but it looks utterly generic and boring to me. I wish the industry would get over this whole ‘man with gun’ fixation, but I know I’m in the minority.

 

[yoopoo]

OMG after watching the video Mark Rein looks like a complete ass, I didn't think much about the commens he made when the thread starter gave his impressions of the panel, but after this video....oh my :lol

Its a must watch.

 

[Optimistic]

Isn't this supposed to be a Gears of War thread? What the fuck is wrong with you people?

 

[masud]

Well the op was not just about GoW so why should the thread be?

Edit: And Mark Rein does sound like a tool. That little graphics spiel he goes on at the start of the vid sounds like a parody written by someone with the opposite opinion.

 

[Silverbolt]

Well, I intended it to be about IGN Live as a whole (you know...about games?) along with Gears of War impressions, but it seems to have slid into a Mark Rein bash. GAF will be GAF.

 

[SyNapSe]

I'd like to come in and rag on Cybamerc, but at least he posted more than his normal first post.. he tried at least this time.

I'm sure his first post was something with "M$" in it a couple of times.. and how they raped the asians, whites, greenies and stole all of his cookies. Then something about bad GFX< DEWDZ

80% of the times I see him post the above paraphrases his one post in the thread then he's gone. He might come back later with one more M$ this and M$ that post later on if things settle down.

I've been quiet because I've agreed with his overall idea a few times (in that PD0 has been underwhelming graphically), but still his posting style is ridiculous. It's clear trolling.. I'm not sure why it's allowed to happen.

I wouldn't normally post this but he's starting to annoy me. plzbanorputinlinethnx Seriously is he Abbadabba from back when GAF was on EZboards?

 

[sly]

OMG this vid hilarious. Pls watch it!!!! There's something for every type of bot lol

 

[ziran]

thanks for the impressions.

gow sounds amazing. the videos i've seen are excellent. it's shaping up to be a great game.