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IGN speculates on Wii's price and release date.

EviLore said:
Nintendo really cares about us, that's why their hardware is always sold for a profit...because we read quarterly reports and don't want to get depressed by nintendo posting a loss! SEE??? THEY REALLY DO CARE!!!
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Nintendo cares enough to not charge us for crap they really should not be charging us for (Wireless internet attachment anyone?). At the end of the day, though, they are a company. Nothing wrong with them making a profit. They're not trying to ass rape us with high pricepoints, and I respect that. They could just as well do the same shit Sony and MS are doing, and they're not. I mean, wtf at charging us for a charging kit for a controller? That shit should come with the controller!

EDIT: Not to mention, a piece of nintendo hardware has NEVER died on me. EVER. My Famicom still works for god's sakes.
 
No $199, no sale.
For that extra $30, there's no reason not to wait until it drops down to $199 anyway, especially since for that amount of money I could buy a DS game--that's certainly worth more than "getting to play Wii earlier than others," which in any case is just bragging rights.


Also, $229 has to look insanely ugly to casual consumers when compared to $199. It'd be a dumb move on NOA's part if true.
 
Moneyhats2k5 said:
How much for the ethernet adapter though haters? :lol :lol :lol

Last time I checked, Wired > Wifi in terms of popularity. Not everyone has Wifi, but everyone has a wired connection of some kind.
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Are you stupid or something? I wasn't being serious. Maybe you should read my other posts to see what you're evidently missing.
 
Jiggy37 said:
No $199, no sale.
For that extra $30, there's no reason not to wait until it drops down to $199 anyway, especially since for that amount of money I could buy a DS game--that's certainly worth more than "getting to play Wii earlier than others," which in any case is just bragging rights.


Also, $229 has to look insanely ugly to casual consumers when compared to $199. It'd be a dumb move on NOA's part if true.
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Tell me, what's in the box?
 
Amir0x said:
Also, again, for the record... I actually don't think Nintendo is going out of its way to rip us off at $230 provided it has an extra controller. It's just an annoyance, not something worth complaining about in the end as it's still very cheap and there are noteworthy benefits over last gen systems obviously.



Yes, because it's about getting the best possible deal for the "utility" I am after.
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Take more economic classes. It's about the maximum utility you can earn based on your budget line. Cost of final goods, not preceived value of the good.
 
Jiggy37 said:
No $199, no sale.
For that extra $30, there's no reason not to wait until it drops down to $199 anyway, especially since for that amount of money I could buy a DS game--that's certainly worth more than "getting to play Wii earlier than others," which in any case is just bragging rights.


Also, $229 has to look insanely ugly to casual consumers when compared to $199. It'd be a dumb move on NOA's part if true.
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For the $229, I can play every GC game and the Wii games. If I'm more interested in playing a random DS game, then I wouldn't buy the Wii in the first place.
 
Jiggy37 said:
Also, $229 has to look insanely ugly to casual consumers when compared to $199. It'd be a dumb move on NOA's part if true.
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Just like $129.99 looks insanely ugly for the DS Lite, right? I mean, people are clearly avoiding the handheld because of the unusual price.
 
$229 would look like Nintendo is trying to avoid the psychological devastation that a $250 dollar price tag would create.

Even so, most people will compare $299 Wii with the 360 premium and the basline PS3 prices IMO.
 
Dr. Kitty Muffins said:
$229 would look like Nintendo is trying to avoid the psychological devastation that a $250 dollar price tag would create.
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I wouldn't be surprised if it launches at $199. It really doesn't matter since retailers are going to force you into a bundle anyway.
 
Amir0x said:
Also, again, for the record... I actually don't think Nintendo is going out of its way to rip us off at $230 provided it has an extra controller. It's just an annoyance, not something worth complaining about in the end as it's still very cheap and there are noteworthy benefits over last gen systems obviously.
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That's pretty much it, right there. What's the point of continuing to argue after this? I mean, its about the best you can do considering there is nothing official about this at this time.
 
fallout said:
I'm reasonably certain that if Nintendo had tried to go head to head with Microsoft and Sony with the Revolution, we probably wouldn't see a Nintendo console next gen.
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Who said anything about going head to head? Nintendo in no way or fashion needed a PS3/X360 killer graphical system. Far from it. But what they needed desperately IMO was a system that could atleast hold its own with PS3/Xbox360 in the graphical side whilst on HD.

Honestly, I could say with a straight face had Nintedo developed that type of system (even w/ the controller), I'd say that's the closest system to perfection we would have had this generation. But it seems that title belongs to the X360 until Sony could get out of its crossroads with its high place and somewhat shaky developer relations with some developers (not major ones, but still).
 
Ulairi said:
I wouldn't be surprised if it launches at $199. It really doesn't matter since retailers are going to force you into a bundle anyway.
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Ain't that the unfortunate truth.
 
Hey guys,
I don't know if you guys noticed, but 2 Wii games got updated release dates on Gamestop....Rayman, a confirmed launch game, is now coming out Nov. 14 (originally, they had a placeholder for a Oct. 2 release). Happy Feet, a Midway game, has the same release date. I was actually thinking that Nov. 19 would be the day, since that was one of the 3 dates on Nintendo's press release that didn't have a release on a Monday, but Nov. 12 sounds legit....
 
Okay, I just want to briefly chime in about the "$229 is too high" comments.

It's true that the specs for the wii aren't much better than what the original Xbox could do. It's a weak system. However you were still getting a damned good deal paying $150 for an Xbox last year. So, you're basically paying $80 more than that for an upgraded xbox with an entirely novel controller, one which is far more feature-rich than most other game controllers; and more than that, you're paying for the potential of an entirely new way of playing games. Nintendo isn't selling hardware -- their audience is not thinking about processing power or pixel shaders when they look at the wii -- so viewing this price in terms of the individual components is to sort of miss the point.

And I mean, honestly, this is $30 more expensive than what we were expecting to pay, and suddenly it's a deal-breaker? That price hike is actually pretty in line with inflation of the past years, so we really aren't paying much more than what the Gamecube cost when it was released.
 
Andonuts said:
Okay, I just want to briefly chime in about the "$229 is too high" comments.

It's true that the specs for the wii aren't much better than what the original Xbox could do. It's a weak system. However you were still getting a damned good deal paying $150 for an Xbox last year. So, you're basically paying $80 more than that for an upgraded xbox with an entirely novel controller, one which is far more feature-rich than most other game controllers; and more than that, you're paying for the potential of an entirely new way of playing games. Nintendo isn't selling hardware -- their audience is not thinking about processing power or pixel shaders when they look at the wii -- so viewing this price in terms of the individual components is to sort of miss the point.

And I mean, honestly, this is $30 more expensive than what we were expecting to pay, and suddenly it's a deal-breaker? That price hike is actually pretty in line with inflation of the past years, so we really aren't paying much more than what the Gamecube cost when it was released.
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A direct spec comparison between Wii and Xbox doesn't make sense. The GameCube, on paper, and much weaker specs than the Xbox and did some amazing stuff. If the system is 3-4 times as powerful as GameCube (which is what I believe Nintendo said at last years E3(05)).

I pretty much agree with everything else you said.
 
Ulairi said:
A direct spec comparison between Wii and Xbox doesn't make sense. The GameCube, on paper, and much weaker specs than the Xbox and did some amazing stuff. If the system is 3-4 times as powerful as GameCube (which is what I believe Nintendo said at last years E3(05)).

I pretty much agree with everything else you said.
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Well, right. I just meant that they are functionally equivalent in terms of the visuals they're capable of producing. I'm not the most technically oriented person but everything I've read about the wii's power basically sums it up as a "souped-up Xbox", so that's all I have to go by.
 
Ulairi said:
I wouldn't be surprised if it launches at $199. It really doesn't matter since retailers are going to force you into a bundle anyway.
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I don't think it matters so much this time around, at least for me. There are half a dozen launch games that I have every intention of buying. I would't be surprised if I drop $1000 on system and games by the time I am done.
 
$229 will turn non-gamers off, one of the main target audiences.

If they want non-gamers too buy this, it is going to have to be below $200
 
I want:

Zelda
Metroid
Rayman

MAYBE Red Steel if it improves.

So this would cost about $400...that's not bad.
 
threeball said:
$229 will turn non-gamers off, one of the main target audiences.

If they want non-gamers too buy this, it is going to have to be below $200
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What if that $229 includes a game though?
 
BM may be working on a revised Broadway chip with a lower clock speed for a future Nintendo handheld -- presumably one that plays GameCube discs.
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if this becomes truth I'll be a happy camper. My cube backlog will go down a lot quicker if its made portable :D
 
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Someone's busy tonight. As for my 2 cents, it'll cost me an extra New SMB. Which was a total rip off at $30. Would have been totally worth it at $0. /insanity

$30 bucks gets this reaction? When $599 is on the horizon? People where perfectly willing to pay $199 but now, no dice @ $230? Seriously? No, seriously? Ok. I'm ok with that. Just like I'm ok with the price. Down with Nintendo or something. I'll be buying it because the other options seem like anal rape at their prices. And the gameplay matters more to me than the colors or shaders or what have you and $600 puts a damper on my house buying dreams of the near future.

Somehow, PS3 takes you out of the gaming ghetto and puts you in the real ghetto. Projects FTW! I'll be sitting in my 1 bedroom apartment with my Cristal, spinnin rims and my PS3.

Edit: Everybody, the real crime of this thread is the fricken horseshit dreams of 2 controllers and a regular game and a few VC games PACKED IN. You're ****in on drugs and should be committed if you really think that's gonna happen. Have y'all played videogames in the last 10 years? When the **** does anybody include an extra controller? Extra game? At launch? Stop posting drunk.
 
Amir0x said:
I'm would be getting a Wii either way at some point due to certain key franchises, so it wouldn't matter how happy or not I was with the direction.
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very late response, been out. Thats kind of where I am. Curious, aside from the value, how happy are you with the direction? I feel the movement in the end is lateral; different, with the control and new focus, but not really better or worse.
To judge the value of this I need to wait; exactly what will 229 (presuming) get you?
 
bmf said:
Wow. It's starting to smell a little like gamefaqs in here. I think I'm going to be sick.
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Did you come here from Gamefaqs? Because that would be a little hypocritical. (BTW I agree with you, new members should be required to do a survey to determine whether they came from Gfaqs or not)
 
TheTrin said:
Nintendo cares enough to not charge us for crap they really should not be charging us for (Wireless internet attachment anyone?). At the end of the day, though, they are a company. Nothing wrong with them making a profit. They're not trying to ass rape us with high pricepoints, and I respect that. They could just as well do the same shit Sony and MS are doing, and they're not. I mean, wtf at charging us for a charging kit for a controller? That shit should come with the controller!

EDIT: Not to mention, a piece of nintendo hardware has NEVER died on me. EVER. My Famicom still works for god's sakes.
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Iwata get the hell off the boards. You're better than that.

Ulairi said:
A direct spec comparison between Wii and Xbox doesn't make sense. The GameCube, on paper, and much weaker specs than the Xbox and did some amazing stuff. If the system is 3-4 times as powerful as GameCube (which is what I believe Nintendo said at last years E3(05)).

I pretty much agree with everything else you said.
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3-4 times the GCN? Those games looked barely above GCN at E3, let alone 4 times that... I'd love for the Wii to be that much more powerful than GCN, but it's not, or atleast it wasn't anywhere near that at E3 or even what we're seeing now.
 
rofl @ people bitching about $229. oh no! $30 more~

christ people, it's still a hell of a lot less than ps3 and less than 360. just because it's only a little more powerful than last gen doesn't mean they shouldn't be trying to make a good profit. $230 is a GOOD PRICE for a game console. great in fact, especially compared to everything else out. you'll all buy it anyway :P
 
Foil said:
3-4 times the GCN? Those games looked barely above GCN at E3, let alone 4 times that... I'd love for the Wii to be that much more powerful than GCN, but it's not, or atleast it wasn't anywhere near that at E3 or even what we're seeing now.
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AT... er AMD (or was it a developer?) has gone on record saying such a thing via next-gen.biz. At E3 06, you probably didn't see games that showed "4x" a GameCube. I'm sure you didn't see many X360 games that reflected a console "14x" more powerful than Xbox at E3 05.

Very few developers took the time to properly exploit the GameCube architecture. So, it is reasonable to assume that a lot of developers are not shining on Wii- at least not initially. We'll see what they can do once they decide to put some effort into learning the ins and out of GC/Wii architecture. It'll be interesting to see some of Square-Enix's in-game content. Same goes for Capcom- assuming they keep the RE4 engine and properly enhance it.
 
3-4 times the GCN? Those games looked barely above GCN at E3, let alone 4 times that... I'd love for the Wii to be that much more powerful than GCN, but it's not, or atleast it wasn't anywhere near that at E3 or even what we're seeing now.
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Xbox 360 launched with many games that looked current gen. That always happens at a console launch. We're going to see a lot of PS2/Xbox/GC ports to the Wii. I think next year at E3, we'll see games that look better. Super Mario Galaxy, looks bloody fantastic.
 
Foil said:
3-4 times the GCN? Those games looked barely above GCN at E3, let alone 4 times that... I'd love for the Wii to be that much more powerful than GCN, but it's not, or atleast it wasn't anywhere near that at E3 or even what we're seeing now.
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I don't know, I think a lot of the shit we were seeing was straight from the cube ( I hope). Mario Galaxy gives me hope because that atleast looked better than anything on Xbox.
 
I wonder how many of these people bitching that a rumored pricetag that's 30 dollars more than they expected is suddenly a deal-breaker were going to buy a PS3.
 
GSG Flash said:
I don't know, I think a lot of the shit we were seeing was straight from the cube ( I hope). Mario Galaxy gives me hope because that atleast looked better than anything on Xbox.
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Hell, man, most of that stuff looked sub-Dreamcast quality. I seriously don't know what the hell the deal was (did nintendo just not give them wii kits and they were made (sloppily?) on GC kits, or what), because all of the first party stuff looked better than most Xbox games.

Red Steel looked like it was running on Bleemcast.
 
Andonuts said:
Hell, man, most of that stuff looked sub-Dreamcast quality. I seriously don't know what the hell the deal was (did nintendo just not give them wii kits and they were made (sloppily?) on GC kits, or what), because all of the first party stuff looked better than most Xbox games.

Red Steel looked like it was running on Bleemcast.
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Exageration much? The stuff wasn't that bad. It was GC quality besides TH:DJ which I'd have to agree looked like a DC game...Anyway, stuff like MP3, Brawl, and SMG (Nintendo games basically) show that Wii is definately stronger than the Xbox
 
one thing i dont get...what did ppl expect to get with the wii at 199? 2 controllers? a game?


and if ppl didnt expect anything more than the system and 1 controller at 199 how in the world are ppl going from nothing to 2 controllers, a game, and VC downloads for 30 dollars?


now FIRST OF ALL this is all rumors...and nothing is confirmed but assuming 230 is true it could mean 3 things:

1. they were scared of the thought of making it 250, which is what they really wanted and so settled for 230. (i consider this unlikely just cause nintendo never tries to launch over 200)

2. they are going to back in maybe 2 wiimotes, maybe 1 wiimote and 1 reg controller, 1 game (wii sports), or some VC games.

or

3. they wanna sell it for 230 with just the basic setup.

if it is 230 im leaning towards #2 but who knows.
 
Oblivion said:
Hopefully it'll be bundled with a game and/or classic controller.
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That would be nice, but I highly doubt that we will see pack-in games with it for that price. Even demos would be stretching it.
 
Zoramon089 said:
Exageration much? The stuff wasn't that bad. It was GC quality besides TH:DJ which I'd have to agree looked like a DC game...Anyway, stuff like MP3, Brawl, and SMG (Nintendo games basically) show that Wii is definately stronger than the Xbox
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Were you there at E3? The third party games looked much worse in person than they did in screenshots and concept renders.

case in point: http://media.wii.ign.com/media/827/827109/img_3601198.html

If I could find some images of how Red Steel ACTUALLY looked at E3, I'd link those, but so far all the "screenshots" are obviously concept renders.
 
Personally, I don't think the Wii should be over $199 and even that is pushing considering what the hardware seems to be capable of so far. In all honesty, $230 isn't exactly a terrible price point, but just think it is hovering dangerously close to the X360's Core pack price which has much more capable hardware and a much larger library of games. My other question is, how much are the games going to be. Recently, I heard a rumor that the games will range anywhere from $49.99 to $59.99 and $69.99 for special editions. If that is factual, I think there will be a plethora of upset gamers. Imo, the games should be in the price range of $39.99 to $49.99. Anything above that could be considered a blatant "wiip off".
 
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