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IGN: Top 50 Game Makers - Let's compare entire publishers to single studios
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I thought it was pretty funny. Especially since your statement was so off its rocker.
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Oh I understood the joke he was making, yet I wasn't trying to be funny or sarcastic.
If we are talking about all time, I don't even see how you can say Valve comes close to Capcom. Capcom has a few more generations of hits behind their belt and just stronger output till recently. And even then, Titles like Dead Rising, Lost Planet, Dragon's Dogma, and others are still a breath of fresh air to the current industry.
, Galaxy 2, SS...
walking fiend
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Title is illogical; sure some developers like Capcom or Valve are publishers as well, but nevertheless they make game only under one development studio; what was expected, make imaginary Capcom or Valve teams or exclude them totally?!! It's not like they always were big as now either
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Anyhow, basically a list with quite a number of studios I really like[d] not there; at least I can agree with #1 lol;
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Anyhow, basically a list with quite a number of studios I really like[d] not there; at least I can agree with #1 lol;
MoogleWizard
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Number one is obvious, the rest is debatable.
From the article:
You might not have liked their output this gen, but Square and Capcom have a legacy of classics and great games and some of the most popular franchises in the industry. ND is nowhere near their level, let them create a few more franchises and look at their output in ten years before you can even compare them to Square and Capcom.
From the article:
You might not have liked their output this gen, but Square and Capcom have a legacy of classics and great games and some of the most popular franchises in the industry. ND is nowhere near their level, let them create a few more franchises and look at their output in ten years before you can even compare them to Square and Capcom.
Alcibiades
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Take out their last decade of input and Nintendo would still be an easy #1. Their 80's stuff alone (Donkey Kong, Super Mario Bros., The Legend of Zelda, etc...) could arguably earn them that spot, but throw in their SNES and N64-era production and it is incredible just how above and beyond the rest of the field they are. The drop off between #1 and #2 is tremendous and they will probably never be seriously challenged in our lifetimes considering how the games industry has evolved. Someone with a history like Namco, Square, or Capcom could potentially challenge them if Nintendo puts out crap from now on, but it would take unforeseen quality and innovation at a pace that is probably too expensive to maintain in today's environment.
The_lascar
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Am I really the first to notice that EAD has never developed a Metroid?
The list is a joke cause it isnt clear. What constitutes a legacy? capcom created fuckin Megaman, but they're pretty much a joke as of late, doesnt that count as "all time" as well?
They didn't redefine the art of storytelling in games though. They just told the story in a way that nearly every big budget game does but did it well.
Canis lupus
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SCEJ Studios at 47? Naughty God not even in Top 10?
abstract alien
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Well, one and two are right.
Well, Black Isle doesn't exist anymore, but they are up there. Midway went creativity bankrupt then bankrupt, but they are up there. ID software put out two forgettable in the past 12 years, but they are up there also. Atari's spot is solely thanks to legacy.
Nor would I say Capcom is a joke, because you don't like their current output. Their generation consisted of new IPs like Dragon's Dogma, Lost Planet, and Dead Rising. Old revivals like Bionic Commando and Mega Man 9, New solid entries in fighters for MvC and SF, with very mediocre entries for RE and DMC. Monster Hunter is another forgotten title in the west that has continued to improve and I even like the Sengoku Basara game quite a lot.
They sure didn't reach the same highs as previous generations, but they aren't Konami. :O
Sir Ilpalazzo
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No. Capcom might have been Capcpoming it up within the last few years or so, but that's nothing compared to the amount of time they've been in the business and the effect they've had on the rest of the industry.
Well, we have two review meltdowns archived here. One is for Zelda TP, the other is for Uncharted 3.
More Fun To Compute
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Sierra are on there but not Infocom. Microprose are there but not Firaxis. The inconsistency is just baffling, almost like they are just pulling this list out of their arses to generate clicks.
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lol In a way that now the original game series that Uncharted came from Tomb Raider, is copying their way of cinematic storytelling with seamless transitions between gameplay and cutscenes that has gained it praise? It's like I'm talking to a bunch of brick walls in this thread.
IGN's list is not perfect but ND has no place in the top 10.
Is this sarcasm? Surely it is
Is this sarcasm? Surely it is
More Fun To Compute
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Yeah, why are Core not on there while a lesser studio like the Naughty Dogs makes the list. On the whole British devs have been written out of history on this list. I know that the British game industry is dead now but it used to be something.
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Core died in 1996 when its assets were sold off to Rebellion. While I respect their history form creating Tomb Raider, they are now dead and gone.
More Fun To Compute
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The list contains plenty of dead studios like Westwood and Origin. But no Bullfrog.
Seriously? I mean, I like Relic and all, but to rank it above Westwood, the inventor of not only the RTS Genre but also developer of great games outside of the genre like Lands of Lore studio actually capable of making great license games such as Lion King and Blade Runner. Thats just wrong..
More Fun To Compute
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Westwood not being above Blizzard makes me feel sick.
Ugh, lists.
Anyway, I can't disagree with Nintendo being number one. Capcom in second place doesn't bug me either. I love their output. Sure, the last couple of years they're using stupid tactics like locked DLC on the disc, but that doesn't make their legacy and franchises worthless. Street Fighter, Resident Evil, Ace Attorney, Mega Man, Dead Rising, Devil May Cry, Viewtiful Joe... that's a pretty solid stable of great games.
Anyway, I can't disagree with Nintendo being number one. Capcom in second place doesn't bug me either. I love their output. Sure, the last couple of years they're using stupid tactics like locked DLC on the disc, but that doesn't make their legacy and franchises worthless. Street Fighter, Resident Evil, Ace Attorney, Mega Man, Dead Rising, Devil May Cry, Viewtiful Joe... that's a pretty solid stable of great games.
Shikamaru Ninja
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Many errors.
They credit Rockstar North with Red Dead Redemption, when it was developed by Rockstar San Diego.
Nintendo EAD never developed Metroid. It was Nintendo R&D1 previously, and now Nintendo SPD. They probably should have just said "Nintendo".
Konami in the grand scheme of time, is one of the greatest developers, but this list is supposed to mean a recent standing, Konami should be way lower.
GameFreak over SEGA AM2? Based on what? One recurring Pokemon game?
They credit Rockstar North with Red Dead Redemption, when it was developed by Rockstar San Diego.
Nintendo EAD never developed Metroid. It was Nintendo R&D1 previously, and now Nintendo SPD. They probably should have just said "Nintendo".
Konami in the grand scheme of time, is one of the greatest developers, but this list is supposed to mean a recent standing, Konami should be way lower.
GameFreak over SEGA AM2? Based on what? One recurring Pokemon game?
Navidson REC
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Fixed. This has to be mentioned.
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I agree with this and request more data associated with the list; number of employees, years in operation, annual budget, etc. If there is not an objective baseline to measure from, there might as well just be a conversation about one's favorite color (not that it has zero point as a topic).
Game Developer magazine is running the Top 30 Game Developers in their current issue, I havent seen it, and their 2010 Top 20 is on wikipedia.
Personally, the smaller studios get bonus weights when sorting my list out.
dragonbane
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I like thatgamecompany, but it is completely illogical that they deserve a spot on the list and a company like Criterion doesn't.
Spieler Eins
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Quality-wise, Capcom is dying since this generation began. All their ex-talent is at Platinum Games, ...who aren't even listed, of course. lol
I've been gaming since the early 90s, and probably played and beaten over 500 (possibly 600) games, from most of the developers on the list (and others). With the help of the Virtual Console and various game collections, I've also played a lot of the big ones from the 80s. While ND is a great company and has a lot of potential, they are very far from being a top 10 developer of all time. Personally I'm not even sure if I would put them in the top 20 on my own list.
But all ex-platinum game staff portfolio were done under Capcom name as Capcom game. So their are listed, but not under Platinum Game.
I wondered that as well. And propping up average-to-good games like Lost Planet and Dragon's Dogma doesn't really help the case for their continued relevance.
Valve's track record is peerless, as far as I'm concerned. They obviously don't put out a lot of work, but neither did Kubrick.
Here's a much more interesting, relevant and logical top developers list:
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/174233/Our_Top_30_Developers_Double_Fine_to_Mode_7.php
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/174233/Our_Top_30_Developers_Double_Fine_to_Mode_7.php