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I never thought we'd be talking about censorship on GAF, but banning ***--as much as I may dislike most of the site's editorial content--is incorrect.

Freedom of speech: even if what they're saying is "stupid," it still deserves a voice.

I don't want to comment anymore on the issue because I may indeed get myself banned for having the dissenting opinion (as has happened once before on GAF), but let it be known that I feel the course of action taken with regards to *** and this recent "problems in gaming" article was highly uncalled for and unjust.

EDIT: I apologize for causing you all to read what one member deems "up to ***'s standards." Another poster contended a good point and I've thus been convinced.
 
civilstrife said:
Okay, I'm going to go ahead and say that banning 1GN is pretty short sighted. We're talking about the biggest gaming website around with about a dozen different channels and tons of writers. If anything, ban the author if you must.
Yeah, this is a bit extreme. Think of how many times articles, screenshots, trailers, reviews, previews, impressions, liveblogs, etc. are linked from ***. Their editorial stuff may be horrible and their editors kinda really stupid, but this seems like cutting off the nose to spite the face.
 
dirtmonkey37 said:
I never thought we'd be talking about censorship on GAF, but banning ***--as much as I may dislike most of the site's editorial content--is incorrect.

Freedom of speech: even if what they're saying is "stupid," it still deserves a voice.

I don't want to comment anymore on the issue because I may indeed get myself banned for having the dissenting opinion (as has happened once before on GAF), but let it be known that I feel the course of action taken with regards to *** and this recent "problems in gaming" article was highly uncalled for and unjust.
Why are they entitled to a voice on a private message board? Anyways, you can still link there, just check the OP. Edit: Never mind, he took out the link.
 
dirtmonkey37 said:
I never thought we'd be talking about censorship on GAF, but banning ***--as much as I may dislike most of the site's editorial content--is incorrect.

Freedom of speech: even if what they're saying is "stupid," it still deserves a voice.

I don't want to comment anymore on the issue because I may indeed get myself banned for having the dissenting opinion (as has happened once before on GAF), but let it be known that I feel the course of action taken with regards to *** and this recent "problems in gaming" article was highly uncalled for and unjust.
You can still link there. Even after Go Nintendo was banned I still linked there if they had something of note. You're just discouraged from doing so unless you do a lot of fact checking.
 
dirtmonkey37 said:
Freedom of speech: even if what they're saying is "stupid," it still deserves a voice.
You're saying a website deserves a voice? Doesn't it already have one by it's nature? No one knows if this ban is permanent anyway. The Gamespot ban didn't last forever.
 
dirtmonkey37 said:
I never thought we'd be talking about censorship on GAF, but banning ***--as much as I may dislike most of the site's editorial content--is incorrect.

Freedom of speech: even if what they're saying is "stupid," it still deserves a voice.

I don't want to comment anymore on the issue because I may indeed get myself banned for having the dissenting opinion (as has happened once before on GAF), but let it be known that I feel the course of action taken with regards to *** and this recent "problems in gaming" article was highly uncalled for and unjust.
Bozon can still post. People can still visit their site. They just don't get as much hits/free exposure from GAF.

Also, as others have stated, most gaming-related wordfilters haven't been permanent, especially the bigger sites.

It's mostly ********, **********, *** and ******** that are not getting a pardon anytime soon. (Yes, I typed actual words there.)
 
dirtmonkey37 said:
I never thought we'd be talking about censorship on GAF, but banning ***--as much as I may dislike most of the site's editorial content--is incorrect.

Freedom of speech: even if what they're saying is "stupid," it still deserves a voice.

I don't want to comment anymore on the issue because I may indeed get myself banned for having the dissenting opinion (as has happened once before on GAF), but let it be known that I feel the course of action taken with regards to *** and this recent "problems in gaming" article was highly uncalled for and unjust.

The website in question feels that the quality of work in this article is high enough to both publish and to pay the writing ‘journalist’ for.

Yeah, they can stay filtered.
 
dirtmonkey37 said:
I never thought we'd be talking about censorship on GAF, but banning ***--as much as I may dislike most of the site's editorial content--is incorrect.

Freedom of speech: even if what they're saying is "stupid," it still deserves a voice.

I don't want to comment anymore on the issue because I may indeed get myself banned for having the dissenting opinion (as has happened once before on GAF), but let it be known that I feel the course of action taken with regards to *** and this recent "problems in gaming" article was highly uncalled for and unjust.
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Anyway, holy shit! I never thought I'd see this day...:lol
 
dirtmonkey37 said:
I never thought we'd be talking about censorship on GAF, but banning ***--as much as I may dislike most of the site's editorial content--is incorrect.

Freedom of speech: even if what they're saying is "stupid," it still deserves a voice.

I don't want to comment anymore on the issue because I may indeed get myself banned for having the dissenting opinion (as has happened once before on GAF), but let it be known that I feel the course of action taken with regards to *** and this recent "problems in gaming" article was highly uncalled for and unjust.

Freedom of speech is not infringed when one private entity does not give a platform to another private entity. The website's allegedly deserved voice has not been silenced; they're still right out there, poorly editorializing away. They're just not being linked to here now.

Is this really such a difficult concept? Freedom of speech is violated when a government uses the power of the law or military/police to stifle expression, free thought, and dissent. That is... not what is happening here. NeoGAF is not a government, and it is not employing coercive force in this case. Go back to Sociology 101 and stop spouting about freshmen concepts that are clearly well over your head.

TJ Spyke said:
Seems kinda immature to ban 1GN. I don't read them on a regular basis, but it's kind of lame to ban them because you disagree with the article.

Yeah, but no one cares what you think. And it isn't just disagreement at an article -- "hey, what are all these women doing in my games, ruining my hobby" isn't something with which one simply disagrees. It's an offensive concept and if people choose to use whatever meager influence they have to combat such a corrosive concept, good on them.
 
From a strategic perspective, if you're evilore and someone says, "hey. 1up just went down the tubes and gamespot has absolutely nothing now. If we banned ***..."

What would you say? Makes sense to me. Slap a front page on this bad boy, get some bigger servers and let us write collective reviews, hype threads, sales threads, and media threads, and blammo. Quality, content-driven website run by the people for the people.
 
PantherLotus said:
From a strategic perspective, if you're evilore and someone says, "hey. 1up just went down the tubes and gamespot has absolutely nothing now. If we banned ***..."

What would you say? Makes sense to me. Slap a front page on this bad boy, get some bigger servers and let us write collective reviews, hype threads, sales threads, and media threads, and blammo. Quality, content-driven website run by the people for the people.
I call Senior Executive Reviews Editor.
 
PantherLotus said:
From a strategic perspective, if you're evilore and someone says, "hey. 1up just went down the tubes and gamespot has absolutely nothing now. If we banned ***..."

What would you say? Makes sense to me. Slap a front page on this bad boy, get some bigger servers and let us write collective reviews, hype threads, sales threads, and media threads, and blammo. Quality, content-driven website run by the people for the people.


If you put your charts there that will be something different from the main sites.


Also, i want to say it again to the article autor: FUCK YOU.
 
This is one of the dumbest articles I've ever read. *** was always weak, but some of these are honestly offensive (e.g. mocking 'strong female leads')

edit: *** banned? Fucking A :)
 
PantherLotus said:
From a strategic perspective, if you're evilore and someone says, "hey. 1up just went down the tubes and gamespot has absolutely nothing now. If we banned ***..."

What would you say? Makes sense to me. Slap a front page on this bad boy, get some bigger servers and let us write collective reviews, hype threads, sales threads, and media threads, and blammo. Quality, content-driven website run by the people for the people.

Hive mind reviews! We could get AstroLad to compile a GAF aggregate based on general impressions like "This game was decent"
 
PantherLotus said:
From a strategic perspective, if you're evilore and someone says, "hey. 1up just went down the tubes and gamespot has absolutely nothing now. If we banned ***..."

What would you say? Makes sense to me. Slap a front page on this bad boy, get some bigger servers and let us write collective reviews, hype threads, sales threads, and media threads, and blammo. Quality, content-driven website run by the people for the people.
http://www.giantbomb.com
 
PantherLotus said:
From a strategic perspective, if you're evilore and someone says, "hey. 1up just went down the tubes and gamespot has absolutely nothing now. If we banned ***..."

What would you say? Makes sense to me. Slap a front page on this bad boy, get some bigger servers and let us write collective reviews, hype threads, sales threads, and media threads, and blammo. Quality, content-driven website run by the people for the people.

It's basically what we're doing already. Well, not me. But lots of people here.
 
freddy said:
If they're willing to publish that about NEOGAF on their website why shouldn't they be banned?
You make out gaf as the victim when the same has obviously been said here about ***. If anything that is just a retaliation to comments that gaf members have made in the past.
 
So with 1up dead, GameSpot in the gutter, and lGN banned, uhh... what's left? GameInformer.com?

The industry really is collapsing on itself...
 
Andrex said:
So with 1up dead, GameSpot in the gutter, and lGN banned, uhh... what's left? GameInformer.com?

The industry really is collapsing on itself...
You do realize that just because it's banned here doesn't mean it doesn't exist, right?
 
Haunted said:
Bozon can still post. People can still visit their site. They just don't get as much hits/free exposure from GAF.
This comes at the price of GAF losing hits also, because no longer will ***-related threads on NeoGAF show up in Google. So basically, it's a bullet straight through the foot.
 
Andrex said:
So with 1up dead, GameSpot in the gutter, and lGN banned, uhh... what's left? GameInformer.com?

The industry really is collapsing on itself...
Not to mention Play Magazine's Shidoshi was just banned from here.
 
PantherLotus said:
And it looks like utter trash, not that I can produce better myself. Besides, that doesn't have the neogaf forums behind it.
Looks aside, it's function is exactly as you describe.
 
PantherLotus said:
From a strategic perspective, if you're evilore and someone says, "hey. 1up just went down the tubes and gamespot has absolutely nothing now. If we banned ***..."

What would you say?
Makes sense to me. Slap a front page on this bad boy, get some bigger servers and let us write collective reviews, hype threads, sales threads, and media threads, and blammo. Quality, content-driven website run by the people for the people.
What would he say? I'm guessing, "I have low overhead, high ad-relevance, high click-through and I'm rolling in cash, why would I want to change that?"
That's self-evident with last year's implosion. It's like asking, "is s pong relevant?"
Well, they lost a lot of quality editors after 'Gerstmanngate.' And they just fired a bunch of people before Christmas. There's virtually no household names left.
From their comScore ratings, they seemed to be doing fine. =\
 
PantherLotus said:
That's self-evident with last year's implosion. It's like asking, "is s pong relevant?"




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GameFAQs. You're going down bitches!

FAQS isn't a news site. It's a forum with a bunch of FAQs backing it up.
 
I know it's expected since it's ***, but this is terribly written:
Take Mirror's Edge's lead character, Faith; Asian to appeal to the Asian markets, female to soften up the lads and potentially sell to a female audience too. How about Elika from Prince of Persia? That's not clever design - that's clever marketing. There's a big difference. The Final Fantasy series has had its share of strong female characters, like Yuna in X-2 and now XIII. Again, it's a deliberate move (particularly X-2, which aimed at a female market with fashion-based equipment and magic-slotting).
 
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