Arpharmd B
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soldat7 said:
Seems like nitpicking. You say this as if the PSP or DS are in 5.1 :lol
Furthermore, d-pad bitching over Space Invaders? Seriously? You move left or fucking right. I think that is managable on a 360 pad.
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Seems like nitpicking. You say this as if the PSP or DS are in 5.1 :lol
Furthermore, d-pad bitching over Space Invaders? Seriously? You move left or fucking right. I think that is managable on a 360 pad.
PepsimanVsJoe
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Sixfortyfive said:Ikaruga is deserving of every bit of praise it has received, does not deserve to be lumped in with the likes of RSG, and should not be maligned just because other niche titles of comparable quality have been overlooked by the powers that be. (Lookin' at you, Tain.)
I'm not maligning anything.
All I'm saying is that if your sole experience with 2D shooters is Ikaruga you're not getting enough out of the genre.
It'd be like if the only FPS you played was...um...well one of the best ones. That's all well and good but if that FPS is designed in a way that you find yourself not appreciating it the entire rest of the genre risks getting written off cause hey you played the best and you didn't like it, so if everything else is worse why bother? Sure there are a lot of memorization elements and almost puzzle-like aspects to 2D shooters(especially newer ones with their more intricate scoring systems) but with Ikaruga it's black & white. Either you know where to stand and when to shoot or else your score sucks, you're eating suicide bullets by the boatloads, and probably not having much fun. If you don't like Ikaruga there are still other shooters worth checking out that cater to different interests.
I only lumped it in with RSG in that at around the end of the Saturn's life Radiant Silvergun was held up as the standard for 2D shooters. I didn't even hear about games like Battle Garegga or Dodonpachi until several years later(and that was through MAME). At least when Ikaruga was all anyone talked about they got the bright idea to discuss the gameplay every now and again. Half the time when I read about RS back in the day it was about the graphics, the cool weapon system, and the ability to keep your weapon strength like some kind of RPG. It took so long to develop any critical thought about the game that it feels that only recently did people realize it isn't all that great.
Like every other genre out there I can't think of a single game that deserves to be played above all else. In fact I can think of around 50 or so that should be prioritized. Ikaruga is one of those without a doubt but it never hurts to have 49 others to choose from.
Oh certainly there are plenty of shooters that are around Ikaruga's difficulty or harder. Many of these titles don't have scoring systems to divert the player's attention either. They're just out to kill people:
-Tatsujin(Truxton) 2
-Gradius III Arcade
-R-Type 2
-Image Fight
-Last Resort
-Pulstar
-Viewpoint
I suck but went for it. Only 8 hours of hell before I get unlimited continues.
I can get to the Stage 3 boss on Easy, but that's about as far as I will likely get for awhile. Depressing that I only went through 45 minutes of game time; felt like 2 hours. I must die at least once every 30 seconds on Stage 3.
Downloaded the #1 ranked replay for Campaign on Hard. Beautiful to watch.
I can get to the Stage 3 boss on Easy, but that's about as far as I will likely get for awhile. Depressing that I only went through 45 minutes of game time; felt like 2 hours. I must die at least once every 30 seconds on Stage 3.
Downloaded the #1 ranked replay for Campaign on Hard. Beautiful to watch.
AndyMoogle
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As you said, you only go left or right. Why even bother with the dpad at all? The analog stick works perfectly.Arpharmd B said:
RadarScope1
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I bought Ikaruga at 800 points simply to support such an thoroughly well-done port of such a niche title at such a decent price. I rarely do that, because rarely does one "wallet vote" make a difference, but in this case I did. I haven't touched it since the first weeks it came out, but that's OK. It's too hard for me, but Treasure did a superb job with the port. I'd really hoped it would make shit-shovelers like Backbone and SNK hang their head and pick up their game, but no.
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
I don't know about that. The port really isn't that great, disregarding the game content itself. There are a bunch of small differences between the XBLA and Naomi/DC versions to give arcade goers fits (which isn't much of an issue for the rest of us, but still), the netcode sucks (input lag in twitch shooter = no dice), there are a few small features from other versions of the game missing in this one (conquest mode, rotated controls in TATE mode), and there are occasional glitches (if your Live connection is dropped during gameplay, then your game is abruptly cut off at the end of your current stage) that may or may not have been patched.RadarScope1 said:
Not a single one of these flaws is a dealbreaker, the game is a steal at 800 points, and the added features (leaderboards, replay upload) more than make up for its shortcomings IMO, but I'm only giving credit where it's due.
poserdonut
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Shig said:
Didn't think about that. I have a SFIV SE stick modded with a Seimitsu stick, will have to try it out in this game.
What other shmups are there on XBLA that are of the same quality but maybe a little bit easier?
inpHilltr8r
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I played most of those in the arcades, and I distinctly recall Viewpoint being pure evil.PepsimanVsJoe said:
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
Probably in the long run. When you buy a game on the marketplace, you get 2 licenses: one for your gamertag, and one for the console on which the game was purchased.dfyb said:
If you want to play the game on a console other than the one it was purchased for, then your gamertag has to be signed into Live in order to do so. So, if your internet connection kicks out, or if you have a friend over who wants to sign in with his gamertag for whatever reason, you'd only have access to the demo in either of these circumstances.
Best to just buy it on your console.
Rhazer Fusion
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Already have it. Great game. Buy it!!!!
Picked this up earlier. Good game, but hard as hell. I was watching the replay of the guy with the top score on the leader board and it is crazy what he can do. Im guessing he has played the game since it came out and practices a lot.
Can you hit some targets with your ship and destroy them if they are the same polarity? If so exactly how does it work? I was playing a section in chapter 3 I think it was, and there is ships coming from the front and the back in a small corridor. You shoot the ones ahead of you, but the ones coming from behind ram you and you dont die. Not sure why I dont die.
Can you hit some targets with your ship and destroy them if they are the same polarity? If so exactly how does it work? I was playing a section in chapter 3 I think it was, and there is ships coming from the front and the back in a small corridor. You shoot the ones ahead of you, but the ones coming from behind ram you and you dont die. Not sure why I dont die.
Diablohead
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use your gamertag on xbox.com, add it to download que and the first xbox you turn on with your gamertag on will become the main machine for the drm.dfyb said:
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
The ship's hitbox is small. As long as nothing touches the very center of your ship, you won't die. It's possible to beat the entire game without ever firing a single shot.Zertez said:
I didn't like Ikaruga that much as a "just try to beat it" type of SHMUP but I really liked it as a "maximise your chains" type of shooter. It really shines when you want to absolutely master different segments and levels. If you're into that kind of stuff Ikaruga is a must buy, and if the gameplay is intact this looks to be the definitive version of the game, good stuff!
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Arpharmd B said:
Really? I thought there was more to it than that (it has been a while)
but I thought you had to also alternate the colours for big chaining so 9 black enemies didn't = 3 chains.
or something. I'm probably just wrong. But yeah, once it got busy I could never track that stuff anyway and just shot everything I could
sixteen-bit
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alternating doesn't matter. this isn't RSGcatfish said:
memecomplex
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Model 500 said:
Actually, the audio is over compressed, really low bitrate...
sixteen-bit
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eh?memecomplex said:
the audio isn't pre-recorded, it's played back in-game
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
Pretty sure the audio is sequenced in every version. It was in the DC version (which is why it was ~36 MB total). I don't think it can be "overcompressed."memecomplex said:
I would be all over this (and this is coming from some one who has played the hell out of the GC version), but Microsoft screwed the pooch with the "Gold Members only!" line.
Hell, I have 400 left over points anyway. What is the smallest amount of points I can even buy (or can I just pay for the exact value instead of "Start at 800/1000, can't remember, and work your way up")?
Hell, I have 400 left over points anyway. What is the smallest amount of points I can even buy (or can I just pay for the exact value instead of "Start at 800/1000, can't remember, and work your way up")?
ArcticDonkey
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Just picked it up. It's taking me a while to get used to the chaining system but I'm loving it so far.
Definitely a good bargain.
Definitely a good bargain.
GoutPatrol
Forgotten in his cell
I don't think a game has kicked my ass this much in a long time.
Upsidedown Fuji
Member
Well worth the 400 points. I suck at modern shumps so getting it at a low price doesn't make me feel bad that I'll probably never get good enough at it to beat it. >_<
Eteric Rice
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They already changed it back to 800pts? Fuck...
sixteen-bit
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yeah, these sales last a weekEteric Rice said:
