When I was an unemployed slacker, I was able to game for that much a day. It's fun, but it'd also a horrible idea.
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I'm disappointed with the WiiU (Opinion)
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When I was an unemployed slacker, I was able to game for that much a day. It's fun, but it'd also a horrible idea.
The Spoony Hou
Member
I appreciate that Nintendo takes their time (usually) to release good games. That's what I expect of them. They can only pump games faster buy either buying other devs or making deals with them.
I have owned every piece of Nintendo main consoles before it and no, this is not the same. When will people learn its not the same and Nintendo did not used to be the 'secondary' piece of hardware. Again, the disappointment is real.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
That's because games like Unfinshed Swan or Patchwork Heroes fly completely under the radar of most gamers. Everyone knows The Order and Uncharted, but they don't know of the many smaller titles.
breakfuss
Member
Well you have to figure that a person isn't going to enjoy every single release on a given platform. I have no interest in stuff like W101.
A couple of those games are Mario/Zelda universe games though.
Catchpenny
Member
I think Nintendo's new IP output has been pretty excellent in recent years, especially if you include the 3DS. Let's not forget that they've funded and brought over games we wouldn't have otherwise seen, such as Bayo 2 and Bravely Default.
BibiMaghoo
Member
lmao
For me, the WiiU has been great. As my gaming time has diminished, so have the number of games I'm interested in. To play 4-5 fantastic games a year really works for me. Nintendo's AAA efforts on WiiU have already surpassed what they gave me on Wii - yes, I'd already put WiiU above the Wii. It was hard to be too excited for Wii releases knowing they'd be hampered by the lack of power, lack of online, and a general fear of being ruined with motion controls. With WiiU I'm genuinely excited by each Nintendo game in a new generation of power.
With that said, if I was in high school or college, I'd be disappointed in WiiU overall. There simply aren't enough games. Each Jan-June has been absolutely barren for the console save 1-2 exclusives. I feel like there's been nothing significant on WiiU since Smash Bros (Kirby was fun but not really a AAA effort), and I am eager for Splatoon.
Still, when Nintendo delivers games, they havn't failed this gen in my opinion. 3DS and WiiU entries in popular franchises have been fantastic, and new IP such as NintendoLand, Splatoon, and Codename Steam have hit the mark.
With that said, if I was in high school or college, I'd be disappointed in WiiU overall. There simply aren't enough games. Each Jan-June has been absolutely barren for the console save 1-2 exclusives. I feel like there's been nothing significant on WiiU since Smash Bros (Kirby was fun but not really a AAA effort), and I am eager for Splatoon.
Still, when Nintendo delivers games, they havn't failed this gen in my opinion. 3DS and WiiU entries in popular franchises have been fantastic, and new IP such as NintendoLand, Splatoon, and Codename Steam have hit the mark.
The thread topic is about disappointment in WiiU not the 3DS.
kitchenmotors
Banned
CrispyGoomba
Member
Only two complaints I have for the Wii U is there are not that many games releasing for the console. Even though Nintendo's games have been great, hardly anyone else is supporting it. My last complaint is that I wish the gamepad wasn't the main controller. I hate the thing and would like to use the pro controller 100% of the time, but what can ya do.
Natureboy99
Banned
I think Nintendo was hit pretty hard by the shock of HD 'next gen' programming. They stepped up with Kart and Smash, but that's it. We still have no true next gen Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Star Fox, or F-Zero. Of the 5 major IP I just mentioned, only Mario has even had a new game at all.
No wonder Nintendo fans everywhere are disappointed in Nintendo.
No wonder Nintendo fans everywhere are disappointed in Nintendo.
I'm still massively disappointed at the utter lack of any games taking advantage of the Wii U's capabilities with the gamepad.
more specifically the lack of asymmetrical multiplayer
more specfically why the fuck are there no games where you can play 4 player action/rpg with the gamepad being DM controlling the map
more specifically the lack of asymmetrical multiplayer
more specfically why the fuck are there no games where you can play 4 player action/rpg with the gamepad being DM controlling the map
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
It might be true, but it also has some of the best games in some series ever(imo of course).
Smash 4 is the best smash ever(only second to Melee).
Mario Kart 8 is the first MK I easily give a 10/10 and that's without the amazing DLC.
Bayonetta 2 is the best Bayo game and you can't play it anywhere else, you even get the best version of the first one!
Pikmin 3 is easily the best Pikmin game ever and it's simply amazing.
Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze is the best 2D platformer of all fucking time.
and that's without talking about Captain Toad, Mario 3D World, Wonderful 101, Hyrule Warriors, MH3U, and other great titles.
To say the least, even if it might not be great if you want new IPs, I'm AWFULLY pleased by their output, Nintendo's still got it.
With Splatoon coming out this month and Xenoblade X, Mario Maker, Star Fox, Zelda, and whatever they announce for Wii U on E3 coming out soon, I can't be disappointed with my Wii U.
whyreggielie
Member
What in the world were you playing on PS4 for 8 hours a day? Bloodborne? I'm not seeing how you have no games to play on Wii U but have plenty on the PS4. I can't find a use for my PS4 outside of Bloodborne anymore.
Yet my Wii U just got new Smash DLC, Mario Kart DLC, Paper Mario, and soon Splatoon to keep me busy. There is plenty to play on the console as it certainly has seen more use than my PS4. Though not so when it comes to PC games.
Yet my Wii U just got new Smash DLC, Mario Kart DLC, Paper Mario, and soon Splatoon to keep me busy. There is plenty to play on the console as it certainly has seen more use than my PS4. Though not so when it comes to PC games.
Herman Cain
Banned
I don't know about this one lol.
Aaronrules380
Member
I mean, if we can call Bloodborne unique, than shouldn't we call Mario 3D world (Only multiplayer 3d platformer out their right now, one of only two games like it, the other being 3d land), Pikmin 3 (Only two other pikmin, but three souls games) Wonderful 101 (This one is super unique, whether you like it or not), Affordable Space adventures (It's a wii u exclusive, even if it isn't made by Nintendo, because Ori wasn't made by MS). Not to mention Nintendoland,
I'm really fucking tired of uniqueness and creativity in games being based on whether it's a "new ip" which really means nothing as far as creativity or uniqueness goes, since that's literally just an issue of branding and a legal issue.
Wii U definitely has no third party aside from indies, but honestly that's been known for a long time and nothing new for Nintendo, nor is it an easy problem to solve. Nintendo does take risks, honestly no less than MS or Sony IMO. But every publisher ever is going to focus on established IPs over new ones, because new ones pretty much always do worse. Sony hasn't really done many new ips either, and one of the few they did was Bloodborne, which only barely counts as a new ip seeing as how it was marketed and has been treated as a souls game in all but name. MS is in a similar boat
Edit: Oh yeah, forgot about captain toad
I'm really fucking tired of uniqueness and creativity in games being based on whether it's a "new ip" which really means nothing as far as creativity or uniqueness goes, since that's literally just an issue of branding and a legal issue.
Wii U definitely has no third party aside from indies, but honestly that's been known for a long time and nothing new for Nintendo, nor is it an easy problem to solve. Nintendo does take risks, honestly no less than MS or Sony IMO. But every publisher ever is going to focus on established IPs over new ones, because new ones pretty much always do worse. Sony hasn't really done many new ips either, and one of the few they did was Bloodborne, which only barely counts as a new ip seeing as how it was marketed and has been treated as a souls game in all but name. MS is in a similar boat
Edit: Oh yeah, forgot about captain toad
GoonerTRON
Banned
thewhitehawk
Member
I'm not going to discuss whether or not the Wii U is disappointing in terms of games. Outside of the lack of third-party games, I think Nintendo has been doing a pretty decent job of maintaining consistent releases of quality software. I'd argue they've been doing that better than they did with the Wii in its last 2 or 3 years, even though I'd argue it's less logical for them to be supporting a console with lackluster sales than their best selling one.
Given what you said about the period you've been through, I think you should look within yourself to find out why you're finding yourself dissatisfied with particular games. I doubt the blame lies with Nintendo in this case.
Given what you said about the period you've been through, I think you should look within yourself to find out why you're finding yourself dissatisfied with particular games. I doubt the blame lies with Nintendo in this case.
While that was somewhat of a joke, hyrule warriors and captain told are very much branched from the two IPs.
-Pyromaniac-
Member
I don't like mine very much either. Even when games come out on it that I want to play...I still kind of don't want to turn it on for some reason. I know Xenoblade is coming out and I'll want to play it and already have it pre-ordered but I'm not looking forward to having to turn on my wii u and use that controller and whatnot.
I know it sounds silly because a game is a game. But yeah. It's probably just resentment of owning a console I rarely ever play so it's always just...there. Just don't like the controller, don't like the hardware, don't like the OS, etc...
I know it sounds silly because a game is a game. But yeah. It's probably just resentment of owning a console I rarely ever play so it's always just...there. Just don't like the controller, don't like the hardware, don't like the OS, etc...
I remember them saying stuff like how they were surprised at the difficulty of HD game production, but who gets hit by a truck that passed years ago. There was no good reason that they were and are so far behind. Absolutely no reason why there is not a Zelda ready. No reason why Metroid isn't being played today. They just did not assign the resources to it, simply put.
breakfuss
Member
I've owned every console as well and the last time I could rely on them to deliver consistently was SNES. Even as a kid I felt the droughts. The GameCube years were especially frustrating. And then they sold Rare. Perhaps the WII U's situation is worse but they've been on this path for years. People just need to get another console/PC to complement it.
Aaronrules380
Member
While that was somewhat of a joke, hyrule warriors and captain told are very much branched from the two IPs.
Honestly, I don't get why it matters when they don't really play alike at all to the main games. Though on that note, Hyrule Warriors still isn't that fresh, but that's because it's a musou game, not because it's a zelda game
I am too, it is the console I play the least by far. New games are too few, and so far between. Nintendo is clearly carrying the system all alone, and I think they are shifting their focus away. 3DS output has been consistently good for the last couple years, its clear that's where their attention is. Nintendo's last 3 home consoles have played out in the exact same fashion, they just seem to give up 3/4ths though the system's lifespan.
Zelda and Starfox are going to be the swan songs for the system, which is a real shame. Wii U had so much potential being the first HD Nintendo console, they could have addressed all the problems of the original Wii's hardware. The transition to HD was rougher than they thought, I think they simply don't have enough people to generate those assets and they hired out Namco to fill that void on many major titles.
Pikmin 3 initially sold me day 1 on the system, as did the promise of future Nintendo titles. I think only a really good Animal Crossing game could redeem the system for me at this point. When I can count the number games I really enjoyed on one hand, I consider the system a disappointment and it didn't return on its initial investment for me.
I'm also a little shocked at all the people who focused on OP's personal life and not what he was trying to say.
Zelda and Starfox are going to be the swan songs for the system, which is a real shame. Wii U had so much potential being the first HD Nintendo console, they could have addressed all the problems of the original Wii's hardware. The transition to HD was rougher than they thought, I think they simply don't have enough people to generate those assets and they hired out Namco to fill that void on many major titles.
Pikmin 3 initially sold me day 1 on the system, as did the promise of future Nintendo titles. I think only a really good Animal Crossing game could redeem the system for me at this point. When I can count the number games I really enjoyed on one hand, I consider the system a disappointment and it didn't return on its initial investment for me.
I'm also a little shocked at all the people who focused on OP's personal life and not what he was trying to say.
Don't speak for me
Natureboy99
Banned
It seems like they were so drunk with Wii success they didn't care to try with WiiU. They played it so horribly that its pretty much guaranteed the Wii brand is dead.
If I'm reading this correctly, it's not that you're disappointed with the Wii U as a console, but rather disappointed with the lack of "Fresh ideas" I can understand that. I feel like one of the biggest problems for Nintendo right now is they have no choice but to support the platform by themselves. Nintendo is catering to their core fans, and from a business perspective, would you rather make a game that you know would sell to said fans, or take a risk to appeal to the core fans with the chance of branching out to new fans? Looking at their release schedule should help indicate what types of resources they have if one of said games flop.
Do me a favor and stop speaking for me.
Astral Dog
Member
True, lack of third party support is going to hurt it no matter what Nintendo releases its not going to be enough, the system is a total failure ,Wii had its criticism but was filled with lots of games, most of them trash, but many interesting titles that keep the fanbase happy and even sold well.3DS has the Japanese support to fill some gaps.
Problem is more with the hardware than the software quality imo. in fact im surprised Nintendo bothers to make Wii U games anymore. better wait for the NX.
Aaronrules380
Member
Nintendo apparently shifted resources from wii u development to 3ds development back when the 3ds had just launched and was doing poorly (a large part of this was the gigantic earthquake that had just hit Japan at the time). The Wii U was also pushed out early by investors, I think Iwata probably didn't want to release it when he did, but his hand was forced. They were stuck between a rock and a hard place
Also, I love metroid, but can we all just accept that it's a B-tier franchise in the west, and pretty much completely off the radar in Japan. It's never going to be a huge priority, and given that Retro chose Donkey Kong, there hasn't really been anyone to work on a new Metroid, unless they looked for an outside studio to help, but after other M I can see them being hesitant to try.
Its like 3D World never happened.
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
Mario 3D World is a true next gen game, we're getting Zelda and Star Fox soon.
They don't have to make a game of every series you like, they have TONS of IPs and I'm glad they've done stuff like fund Bayo 2, W101, and make Splatoon instead of anything else.
And yeah I haven't seen that many Nintendo fans disappointed.
SNES was the best, filled by N64 (for me)
Gamecube was not that bad, it was pretty decent. I think other consoles started to get more attention around this time though.
RE4, Metroid Prime 1 2 3, Paper Mario, Super Mario Sunshine, Twilight Princess, WW, Smash Bros, SW Rogue Leader, Viewtiful Joe, Animal Crossing, I am sure there are others.
vasametropolis
Member
The Wii U is a complete dud. It has some great games, but it's a massive disappointment to me. The Wonderful 101 deserved better. That was by far the best game I've played for it. It has also convinced me that Nintendo will never be competitive in the home console space again for the vast majority of core gamers. They might see casual success again, however, which while potentially a home run for them is pretty much a dud again for anyone else.
DanteGhost
Member
Me too I expected more from GAF.
If anything I'm glad you guys mentioned Pikmin 3 since it is a game I really want to play. Luckily I got it as a free download.
wow 8 hours a day is pretty deep OP.
glad your grades weren't affected.
splatoon reminds me of a cancelled game on x360 called color wars.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96WZJusSqR0
glad your grades weren't affected.
splatoon reminds me of a cancelled game on x360 called color wars.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96WZJusSqR0
Theanine3D
Member
My main disappointment has been with the lack of variety from Nintendo. I bought the first HD Nintendo console expecting games that took full advantage of the hardware and new experiences only possible with this new hardware. Instead I got a bunch of sidescrollers, and sequel after sequel, stuff that could easily have been done on the GameCube. The droughts aren't even what bothers me, as I only have enough money to buy a few games a year anyway. It's the fact that most of those few games they DO release have (mostly) been just more of the same. Only a few exceptions like Wonderful 101, which was unique and innovative, but not enough.
The Wii U's life has just felt to me like Nintendo is just playing it safe. The ambition we once saw from them with productions like Super Mario 64 that were industry-changing just hasn't been there. ie. Where's the Wii U's equivalent of Metroid Prime? Just an example. Even the GameCube had much more ambition behind its library.
I have hope Zelda U will change that, though. It seems like their first incredibly ambitious title for the console, pushing the bar of anything they've done before. Xenoblade X looks like it will do that too, but I didn't like the previous Xenoblade, so it's unfortunately not for me.
I wish people would stop immediately assuming anyone expressing even the slightest disappointment in Nintendo must be a Nintendo hater who never actually liked their games anyway. Many of us have been throwing money at the company since the 80s. It's not possible to have a civil discussion when you immediately discount other's experience without a second thought. That goes both ways of course; if you are 100% happy with Nintendo's output I respect that and even envy you, I really wish I could feel the same way about them.
The Wii U's life has just felt to me like Nintendo is just playing it safe. The ambition we once saw from them with productions like Super Mario 64 that were industry-changing just hasn't been there. ie. Where's the Wii U's equivalent of Metroid Prime? Just an example. Even the GameCube had much more ambition behind its library.
I have hope Zelda U will change that, though. It seems like their first incredibly ambitious title for the console, pushing the bar of anything they've done before. Xenoblade X looks like it will do that too, but I didn't like the previous Xenoblade, so it's unfortunately not for me.
I wish people would stop immediately assuming anyone expressing even the slightest disappointment in Nintendo must be a Nintendo hater who never actually liked their games anyway. Many of us have been throwing money at the company since the 80s. It's not possible to have a civil discussion when you immediately discount other's experience without a second thought. That goes both ways of course; if you are 100% happy with Nintendo's output I respect that and even envy you, I really wish I could feel the same way about them.
Astral Dog
Member
expanding to make HD games takes years, and only some third party companies today truly adapted to HD development (or we forgot Konami already?) even worse for Japanese publishers, Zelda is probably more of a business decision, Metroid had its fair share of problems and its mostly a niche franchise, plenty of niche games on Wii U, Retro was busy with Donkey Knog and Sakamoto trashed the series, honestly it needed a rest.Now that Retro is working on something else, it may be Metroid.
Aaronrules380
Member
Mario 3D world was amazing. Just because it isn't what you wanted in a 3D mario doesn't stop it from being a true nexyt gen Mario. Anybody who had expected a new Zelda by now was an idiot, given that Skyward Sword came out at the very end of the wii's life, and zelda games have always taken years to produce. As I said, Metroid is a B-tier franchise and there hasn't really been anyone to make a new metroid. Star Fox hasn't been a major IP since the N64, and F-Zero stopped being a major IP even earlier. Let me put this in terms you might understand: F-zero hasn't gotten a new game because aside from a small but vocal group on the internet, nobody really wants one. In fact, the whole genre of futuristic racer has been dead for a while.
I also love how you ignore DOnkey Kong as on one of Nintendo's major IPs when it's a way bigger franchise than the last 3 you mentioned. Kirby is probably also bigger, as are Animal Crossing, and probably even Fire Emblem right now. Pokemon goes without saying, but it's a handheld franchise so I'll ignore that
Spinosaurus
Member
I'm not.
Also in what world is F-Zero a major IP? If it was it wouldn't have died a decade ago.
bobawesome
Member
I'm quite familiar with his work so I'd assume the latter.
Do me a favor, keep speaking for me.
I am the type of Nintendo fanboy that will buy their system Day One. Bought the Wii U Day One. Bought New Super Mario Bros. U, bought 3D world, then bought DKC: TF. Thought about it for a while and sold the console. Nothing in their schedule had me interested + the PS4 at home. I was one of those sold on the promise of the controller - I thought, "damn, imagine the possibilities for RPGS" etc... but that died down quick.
There are a lot of us, disappointed, many don't take their time to voice their displeasure on a forum nor engage in tit for tat discussion about the veracity of their content appeal. People, like usual, vote with their wallets. They simply buy the competition and go on with their daily lives. It's clear the state of things.
Aaronrules380
Member
I don't think the game industry will ever see games as industry changing as Mario 64 and OoT ever again, simply because the industry was so young when they came out. If those games are your bar for impact, than literally every game since has been a disappointment
Ugh.
So yeah, Bloodborne is a sequel to Dark Souls, but using that to try and dismiss the fact that it is crazy unique is kind of insulting.
There are so many heartless, soulless AAA games out there and you pick the old school action rpg where you kill werewolves and snake golems and Lovecraftian horrors in the streets of Victorian England / the realm of nightmares in a quest to bathe the city red with blood and maybe worship a doll / the moon.
Its probably one of the most unique games out there!