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I'm tired of updating my PS3

oatmeal said:
Not sure why he's getting so much unwarranted hate.

The updating process on the PS3 is infinitely inferior to the 360. I live in Vegas and have a fast connection, but the updates and install takes around 20 minutes. And then when you're hit with game updates (for example, I got GT5 and the updates on that, plus the install...which I know is optional...took well over an hour) it gets a little ridiculous.

And when you're forced to update when you watch Hulu + and/or Netflix, it turns watching a movie into an extra 20-minute affair which usually just ends up killing my buzz for said movie.
Netflix app is like 20mb. Gtfo with the bs. If it takes you 20min to dl that then I'd be bitching to your ISP.
 
Yeah, it's ultimately meaningless in the grand scheme, but it is slow and it is annoying since they never add anything. If you mostly mess around with software and downloads for PC gaming (or even Xbox), then hopping to patches and firmware on the PS3 is fucking agony.
 
Cruzader said:
Netflix app is like 20mins. Gtfo with the bs. If it takes you 20min to dl that then I'd be bitching to my ISP.

What?

I am talking about the main Sony Firmware. Which I need to update if I want to watch Netflix/Hulu.

Those take 20ish minutes.

The problem, as has been brought up, is that Sony is throttling downloads.
 
oatmeal said:
Not sure why he's getting so much unwarranted hate.

The updating process on the PS3 is infinitely inferior to the 360. I live in Vegas and have a fast connection, but the updates and install takes around 20 minutes. And then when you're hit with game updates (for example, I got GT5 and the updates on that, plus the install...which I know is optional...took well over an hour) it gets a little ridiculous.

And when you're forced to update when you watch Hulu + and/or Netflix, it turns watching a movie into an extra 20-minute affair which usually just ends up killing my buzz for said movie.
20 minutes? That doesn't' sound right. What do you call a fast connection?
 
keep in mind that i'm playing my ps3 in a room that can barely receive a wifi signal and i used to update the ps3 using a flash drive. also, i like to use it online mainly for trophies, friend list and chatting.

StalkerUKCG said:
While i agree ps3's semi-constant updates or more specificity the time they take can get a bit irritating its not something to freak out about.

I feel spoiled with the 360 updates and download time in general when im using my ps3 guess thats what you get for free.
I wish the PS3 can do system updates just like the 360. keep the big FW updates for spring/fall, at the same time provide small size quick to download updates, so i won't have to download +150MB every time i wanted to update the system. beside, I don't understand why is it that big?

i hope someone at sony is reading this.
 
oatmeal said:
Not sure why he's getting so much unwarranted hate.

The updating process on the PS3 is infinitely inferior to the 360. I live in Vegas and have a fast connection, but the updates and install takes around 20 minutes. And then when you're hit with game updates (for example, I got GT5 and the updates on that, plus the install...which I know is optional...took well over an hour) it gets a little ridiculous.

And when you're forced to update when you watch Hulu + and/or Netflix, it turns watching a movie into an extra 20-minute affair which usually just ends up killing my buzz for said movie.

It's true that the update system on PS3 seems to be inferior. However, when people say "Wahhh, I have to update every single time I turn on my console!" they are either being hyperbolic or they almost never use it. If it's such a life-ruining event when you are surprised by an update, then pay attention to when they are released and update your shit while you're doing something else.

It's the most minor of problems but it's so much fun to say "boy, it sure seems like the ps3 needs a firmware update every time I use it, derp."
 
shadyspace said:
I don't get why this isn't a valid complaint. I know I miss slamming an N64 cart down, pushing a switch and getting right into a game.
And this isn't the first time we've seen this thread.
 
upJTboogie said:
20 minutes? That doesn't' sound right. What do you call a fast connection?

Cox's fastest internet...whatever that is.

I'm in Canada on vacation right now.

Regardless, I can download a film on my computer in minutes, but a demo in 30 mins.
 
hey_it's_that_dog said:
It's true that the update system on PS3 seems to be inferior. However, when people say "Wahhh, I have to update every single time I turn on my console!" they are either being hyperbolic or they almost never use it. If it's such a life-ruining event when you are surprised by an update, then pay attention to when they are released and update your shit while you're doing something else.

It's the most minor of problems but it's so much fun to say "boy, it sure seems like the ps3 needs a firmware update every time I use it, derp."

This wouldn't be GAF without hyperbole.
 
Still, issue with your ISP. takes less than 10 min to dl and install all updates(firmware) from the last year or so. Granted it's hardwired.
 
Really? Really?

My 60gig did the last update in less than 5 minutes. I got up, got a Dr. Pepper, sat back down, took a few sips and the update was done.

Wait... since when do you have to be signed in to PSN to play a single player game?

The people that make these threads.... I feel for them. It is truly sad that they sit in front of a TV waiting for a game console to update, unable to change the channel, get a drink, go to the bathroom, start a load of laundry, or do anything else.

And for the record, I feel that my 360 takes longer to update than my PS3.
 
oatmeal said:
Not sure why he's getting so much unwarranted hate.

The updating process on the PS3 is infinitely inferior to the 360. I live in Vegas and have a fast connection, but the updates and install takes around 20 minutes. And then when you're hit with game updates (for example, I got GT5 and the updates on that, plus the install...which I know is optional...took well over an hour) it gets a little ridiculous.

And when you're forced to update when you watch Hulu + and/or Netflix, it turns watching a movie into an extra 20-minute affair which usually just ends up killing my buzz for said movie.
Agreed. The 360 definitely handles these things much more elegantly.
 
Wario64 said:
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LOL is this real?
 
Cruzader said:
Still, issue with your ISP. takes less than 10 min to dl and install all updates(firmware) from the last year or so. Granted it's hardwired.
The only update that took me over 10 minutes was 3.00. Regular updates are pretty brief.
 
Solid warrior said:
i remember the last time i updated my ps3 when i finished playing L.A Noire and now I'm welcomed with another system update when i tried to play my newly purchased game, shadows of the damned.

i'm seriously sick of these updates, does it have to be this BIG and almost weekly? i'm too lazy to update and it's very annoying that i can not sign in with my psn account unless i do this system update first.
give your PS3 to me. you obviously don't use it very often, so it won't be missed.
 
Welcome to 2007 where I got fed up with SCE being so inelegantly bumbling in any endeavour they undertook.

From the barrage of frequent squirt updates that should have been a twice a year only thing to the obnoxious requirement of having to first download everything, then install them. All the way to how SCE's lack of standards and policing lead to everything from patches to all their store offerings being 10 times larger than necessary. In addition to a myriad other smaller issues that combined weigh down their system. Not to mention the PSP.

How did they go from a companey that put out the excellent PS2 to one who is half as successful but even then despite themselves. I would hope that they've learned their lessons for their successor systems but I am very sceptical about them ever understanding the importance of elegance in execution.

The PSP was a sign of their future direction with the PS3, so the Vita will be an indication of how the PS4 is going to work out.
 
If it was just firmware, it'd be less bothersome. It's everything on the service, it's all insanely slow and I have 40 megabit download. I don't even bother with demos anymore.
 
Solid warrior said:
I wish the PS3 can do system updates just like the 360. keep the big FW updates for spring/fall, at the same time provide small size quick to download updates, so i won't have to download +150MB every time i wanted to update the system. beside, I don't understand why is it that big?

i hope someone at sony is reading this.

I believe the way the PS3 OS is setup you have to download and install the entire OS each time which is why it's such a large download. Someone smarter than me can probably explain it better.
 
I will say, where i sympathize.... is that Sony basically fixed the irritation with updates in the new auto-update mechanism, but then left the old way as a negative example, so the new could become a "feature" of PS+. They shouldn't toy with a core function like that. It should be made available to everyone.
 
Revolver said:
I believe the way the PS3 OS is setup you have to download and install the entire OS each time which is why it's such a large download. Someone smarter than me can probably explain it better.

I thought they stop doing that a few updates ago? Anyway i must live in some upside down land as my PS3 downloads and updates faster than my 360 both connected to same router. It maybe that my PS3 is in the DMZ?
 
In my case time's no issue, neither the size; nor the timeframe. My connection may not be the best one; but downloads 600MB in 60 minutes, so is around 100MB every 10 minutes. I just change the channel, or do something else. So I'm fine with that.

What still sucks, is that you have to download the 150+MB firmware every time they just add one small tweak. Read that they were going to "fix it", but it seems that what they did was that you still need to download the whole 150+MB, but only when it's installing is that it checks for the actual new stuff and installs that instead of everything. (Which kinda explains why the installation has been faster with every update)
 
I've updated my PS3's firmware on several different internet connections and it's always been embarrassingly slow and the files needlessly large to the point that it's laughable. Some of you might be okay with that, but there's no excuse for it since both of Sony's competitors handle this aspect for their consoles so efficiently. I've got to sympathize with the complainers on this one.
 
Solid warrior said:
I wish the PS3 can do system updates just like the 360. keep the big FW updates for spring/fall, at the same time provide small size quick to download updates, so i won't have to download +150MB every time i wanted to update the system. beside, I don't understand why is it that big?

i hope someone at sony is reading this.
I might be wrong, but i belive that the size of the firmware has something to do with the way that it is written/flashed to the PS3. That pretty much everything is being overwritten every time a firmware update is being done.
 
hey_it's_that_dog said:
It's true that the update system on PS3 seems to be inferior. However, when people say "Wahhh, I have to update every single time I turn on my console!" they are either being hyperbolic or they almost never use it. If it's such a life-ruining event when you are surprised by an update, then pay attention to when they are released and update your shit while you're doing something else.

It's the most minor of problems but it's so much fun to say "boy, it sure seems like the ps3 needs a firmware update every time I use it, derp."
this is exactly what is happening to me, it feels like i have to update every time i turn the system on even though last time i turned it on was a couple of weeks ago. i don't get this feeling with my 360 at all, i can leave it collecting dust for months and get back to it without being welcomed with a system update and even if it happens, it's quick.
 
Yeah, I know it was just a coincidence that it died during the system update and yes I've heard of the PS2. The problem is both of mine are stranded in Ireland as I sit here in GA and I really don't feel like undertaking the expense of having either shipped at this moment in time.

Hence, my sudden irrational dislike of system updates.
 
seat said:
I've updated my PS3's firmware on several different internet connections and it's always been embarrassingly slow and the files needlessly large to the point that it's laughable. Some of you might be okay with that, but there's no excuse for it since both of Sony's competitors handle this aspect for their consoles so efficiently. I've got to sympathize with the complainers on this one.
It shouldnt take more than 10-15 minutes on a decently fast line (about 1MB/s download speed). If i remember correctly, i think that the latest 3.66 firmware update took me somewhere around 8-10 minutes in total (download and install).

If you experience poor speed on your PS3, then it might be worth a shot to download the firmware directly from Sony's website instead and copy it over to a USB memstick.
 
On the flipside...something that no one seems to talk about.

Why the fuck doesn't Nintendo have background downloading on the 3DS?
 
fernoca said:
What still sucks, is that you have to download the 150+MB firmware every time they just add one small tweak. Read that they were going to "fix it", but it seems that what they did was that you still need to download the whole 150+MB, but only when it's installing is that it checks for the actual new stuff and installs that instead of everything. (Which kinda explains why the installation has been faster with every update)
this.
 
I never had an issue with my 360, Wii, or PS3 updating. It never seems to take that long to me and I generally don't remember once it's done.

It's games requiring updates that I've grown tired of. I now expect to have to wait longer when I buy a game because I know there will be an update or a patch, and that seems wrong to me.

Clott said:
Is this really what people find to complain about? talk about life being too good.

You can complain about something and still have worse things happening in your life then it. It doesn't mean it's the worst, just something you can/want to talk about.
 
game updates annoy me the most. takes forever
 
blizzardjesus said:
This is why I rarely bother with the ps3 anymore, if it's not the system update its the 1/2 hr long game updates...
God bless the auto-download feature in Playstation Plus.
 
Special J said:
on ps3 seems that they're two tiered, the data has to be downloaded then they have to be installed and signed. (why swapping hdds on a ps3 makes the data unreadable)

There are a few types of update.

I remember firmware updates have been pared down. They no longer apply the entire patch. That's why sometimes the update will bail when the progress percentage is less than 100%.

The game updates seem to be specific to the game titles. Eye of Judgment update was abyssal. GT5 was pretty bad but much better than EoJ. The developers can pretty much release a patch based on their needs (e.g., bug fixes). I heard on XBL, developers are forbidden to patch their game too often even if there's a bug. The biggest problem here is Sony and partners do not merge their patches. So you may have to do one after another.

The skinny apps (Hulu Plus, Vudu, NetFlix, NHL, etc.) are the fastest, typically 3-20Mb in size.

on xbox the executable are just downloaded and just the credentials are signed so its much faster. also ms is pretty strict about file sizes so i think that same policy goes into patches.

Xbox Live batch OS update to twice a year ? They also limit the number of times a game can patch itself. The patch size is also restricted.



And then there's your local network config. If PS3 network is slow, try measuring your net speed using the XMB network test. You may need to change the WiFi channel if your WiFi feels slow. I think some people have their Xbox in the DMZ but the PS3 in the internal network. This may contribute to the difference in speed and connectivity too. In isolated cases, I have heard ISPs filtering PS3 traffic because they thought it's P2P traffic.
 
You're too lazy to update? It's a single damn button. Click it, take a piss, and be done with it.

Unless it takes you over an hour to piss, I can't see how this works. I don't have a problem with actual system updates and in all fairness, most PS3 titles don't do this but; Uncharted 2. Ugh. The first time I popped that into my system it had nine updates to do- one by one. It took about... two hours before I could even see the title screen. Was kind of annoying since I was planning on trying it out before bed but, by the time it was done, needed sleep.

I can't help but compare this to the 360. Software updates on XBL take a minute at most. Why does it take so much longer on the PS3? Like I say, not games are like this, but Uncharted 2 and Little Big Planet are two that had me waiting for ages before playing.
 
shadyspace said:
I don't get why this isn't a valid complaint. I know I miss slamming an N64 cart down, pushing a switch and getting right into a game.

Because you are complaining about the most altruistic company in the gaming biz, Sony!

Sarcasm aside, it is a complaint. A one worth talking about, too. Same way it's worth complaining about something of the magnitude of how you need to push up once on the 360 dash to start a game up.
 
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