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[Dai101]

Take a wild guess..

Though one. Does it rhymes with "ite gurl"?

 

[Tovarisc]

I'm not sure what the point would be, but it looks like this GIF is reversed to me. Anyone else?

It isn't reversed. All interactions Easy D has with Ivanka and Melania at RNC are weird.

 

[iammeiam]

Yea let's abolish maternity leave plans because Ivanka doesn't have the polish of a career politician

I posted an interview that I think says a lot about Ivanka in a thread about Ivanka. You keep trying to equate pointing out Ivanka looking uninformed and eventually ditching an interview about the pet policy that is supposed to be one of her "good" points with demanding Trump's currently nonexistent maternity leave bill be voted down.

It's better than nothing. It's substantially worse than alternative proposals, and if it ever actually materializes as a concrete bill we can see how they handle the planned funding source not actually being sufficient to cover the cost, and debate the merits at that time. The relevance is largely that given that it is supposed to be Ivanka's baby--and part of the push for defending her is supposed to be her being a positive influence on policy--her handling of it was pretty bad and pokes a lot of holes in the "Ivanka seems normal" narrative.

 

[Joe T.]

You don't truly know what Ivanka Trump is doing in government because she doesn't actually have an official position in government.

I simply view her as an educated daughter that has her father's ear and I take some solace in that considering her father's age, views and inexperience in the political world. Even if she only has a very minor role, anything is better than nothing. I don't doubt the NYT or WSJ will call her out the millisecond she does something inappropriate, so I'm not too worried about what she is or isn't up to.

To those upset with her because she supported her dad during the election, it's been over three months, time to let it go. The entire country contributed to his election win - enthusiastic supporters and angry critics alike - whether you want to take accountability for it or not. The way you treat your fellow man/woman has consequences.

You should be well informed enough to take anything that comes out of the Trump organization at less than face value based on a long record of dishonesty and omission.

This is politics we're talking about, no one should ever take statements at face value, regardless of whether they're from someone you consider vile or you support wholeheartedly. Even the best of them find ways to stretch the truth and lie, anyone that thinks otherwise obviously hasn't spent much time following politicians.

 

[royalan]

Remember like 3 months ago when people were treating Conway with kid gloves too? That signal was so strong her SNL portrayals was initially that of someone openly annoyed and exhausted with Trump.

Stop doing this to women. So she's a little softer than her bulbous dad. So what? She's a very active and engaged collaborator.

If you think she isn't fully aware of and leveraging the kinder public opinion of her to her dad's benefit, I have a reverse mortgage to sell you.

Amen.

Ivanka openly supporting her father makes her just as bad as him. And she'll get no different treatment from me.

The entire family is embarrassing.

 

[Glix]

I simply view her as an educated daughter that has her father's ear and I take some solace in that considering her father's age, views and inexperience in the political world. Even if she only has a very minor role, anything is better than nothing. I don't doubt the NYT or WSJ will call her out the millisecond she does something inappropriate, so I'm not too worried about what she is or isn't up to.

To those upset with her because she supported her dad during the election, it's been over three months, time to let it go. The entire country contributed to his election win - enthusiastic supporters and angry critics alike - whether you want to take accountability for it or not. The way you treat your fellow man/woman has consequences.



This is politics we're talking about, no one should ever take statements at face value, regardless of whether they're from someone you consider vile or you support wholeheartedly. Even the best of them find ways to stretch the truth and lie, anyone that thinks otherwise obviously hasn't spent much time following politicians.

Hey both sides. I find the bold section to be the most absurd part of your post, but tell the other parts not to feel bad, it was a close call.

"The way you treat your fellow man has consequenses" - exactly. Thats why i support BLM. Thats what you were talking about, right?

Especially the part where you find her comforting because her father has no political experience. So someone with no experience counseling someone with no experience... is a positive?

 

[Glix]

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I blame oxygen for not kindly removing itself from Trump's general vicinity during the election. Hey, anything that contributed to Trump's win, if we're gonna throw "people not liking him" on the list of stuff that led to his victory.

I dont normally let gaf get to me like this but the idea that someone with his views could unironically post "how you treat your fellow man/woman has consequences" has me fucking shook to my core. It really got me upset.

 

[Raylan Targaryen]

Why does everyone have some soft spot for her?

pretty white woman effect

 

[Poona]

Would help if she made Trump be a friend to Captain Planet rather than having him turn out to be one of the villains.

Didn't she have Leonardo Di Caprio approach her about environmental issues?

Until then it seems she's just the same as him.

 

[Black_Sun]

pretty white woman effect

Yep. She's got big tits, she's hot, she's white and she's well-spoken.

Leads people to think she's not a snake like her dad. They'd be wrong.

 

[iammeiam]

To those upset with her because she supported her dad during the election, it's been over three months, time to let it go. The entire country contributed to his election win - enthusiastic supporters and angry critics alike - whether you want to take accountability for it or not. The way you treat your fellow man/woman has consequences.

Shocking Twist: Even if we pretend the impacts were remotely similar (lolno), Ivanka did it on purpose. She didn't mess up and inadvertently send a few votes his way, she actively chose to do everything in her power to get Trump into office. When trying to prop her up as the sane, positive, moderating effect on Trump people so badly want her to be, her dedication to getting the Build the Wall/Ban the Muslims Guy into a position where he could act on it in the first place is kind of a stumbling block.

 

[Rival]

All of the Trump children are culpable except Barron.

I think he might have some kind of Stewie Griffin evil genius thing going on.

 

[DOWN]

She's trying to profit from the presidency, has publicly backed her father and campaigned for his policies, and she is hypocritical as fuck as she continues to claim she had nothing handed to her despite her dad launching her career and putting her company in the spotlight since The Apprentice days.

 

[IISANDERII]

I posted an interview that I think says a lot about Ivanka in a thread about Ivanka. You keep trying to equate pointing out Ivanka looking uninformed and eventually ditching an interview about the pet policy that is supposed to be one of her "good" points with demanding Trump's currently nonexistent maternity leave bill be voted down.

It's better than nothing. It's substantially worse than alternative proposals, and if it ever actually materializes as a concrete bill we can see how they handle the planned funding source not actually being sufficient to cover the cost, and debate the merits at that time. The relevance is largely that given that it is supposed to be Ivanka's baby--and part of the push for defending her is supposed to be her being a positive influence on policy--her handling of it was pretty bad and pokes a lot of holes in the "Ivanka seems normal" narrative.

Again, she's not an elected official, something some of us already knew. So comparing her to Clinton and others has no value; nobody has been able to bring about paid leave in the United States. And to strike it down simply because you don't like her, her style or father is something which we wouldn't tolerate.

 

[Mobius 1]

She helped get her Dad elected. She gets no sympathy from me.

This is the correct answer. If she stood up to these alleged values, she would at minimum voice opposition to her father's view. At best, actively oppose him.

Not only she did none of these things, but she's been actively supporting him or profiting from the office of the POTUS in one way or another...

... she can get fucked.

 

[PKrockin]

She should know better than anyone how mentally unfit for the presidency her father is, yet she helped him get elected.

 

[karasu]

That wasn't a very good defense, dude.

 

[faisal233]

Check out super liberal Ivanka!!!

http://www.newyorker.com/books/page...ble-book-helps-explain-the-trump-family-ethos

IIvanka Trump’s 2009 self-help book, “The Trump Card,” opens with an unlikely sentence: “In business, as in life, nothing is ever handed to you.” Ivanka quickly adds caveats. “Yes, I’ve had the great good fortune to be born into a life of wealth and privilege, with a name to match,” she writes. “Yes, I’ve had every opportunity, every advantage. And yes, I’ve chosen to build my career on a foundation built by my father and grandfather.” Still, she insists, she and her brothers didn’t attain their positions in their father’s company “by any kind of birthright or foregone conclusion.”

The cognitive dissonance on display here might prompt a reader who wishes to preserve her sanity to close the book immediately. But “The Trump Card” is instructive, if not as a manual for young women interested in “playing to win in work and life,” as the subtitle advertises, then as a telling portrait of the Trump-family ethos, an attitude that appears quite unkind even when presented by Ivanka, its best salesman, in the years preceding her father’s political rise.

Ivanka spends much of “The Trump Card” massaging the difficulty in her premise. What can a woman born with a silver spoon in her mouth teach people who use plastic forks to eat salads at their desks? To answer this question, Ivanka employs an audacious strategy: all of her advantages have actually been handicaps, she says. When she was appointed to the board of directors at Trump Entertainment Resorts, at age twenty-five, the situation was “stacked all the way against me.” Her last name, her looks, her youth, her privilege have all colluded to make people underestimate her. And when she is overestimated—when people believe that she has an “inherent understanding of all things related to real estate and finance,” because her father is Donald Trump—this, too, “can be a big disadvantage.”

This messy argument comes with correspondingly messy metaphors. “We’ve all got our own baggage,” Ivanka writes, before explaining what she means by baggage: “Whatever we do, whatever our backgrounds, we’ve all had some kind of advantage on the way.” Ivanka compares herself to a runner positioned on the outside track, whose head start at the beginning is just an illusion. “In truth, the only advantage is psychological; each runner ends up covering the same ground by the end of the race.” Soon, though—by page nine—she has grown tired of pretending to be her reader’s equal. “Did I have an edge, getting started in business?” she asks. “No question. But get over it. And read on.”

Ivanka is now thirty-five, and she has evolved since the days of “The Trump Card.” She got married to Jared Kushner and gave birth to three children; while she is as blond and beautiful and patrician as ever, her personal aesthetic is now less socialite and more life-style-blogger-cum-C.E.O. Through her “Women Who Work” brand, she has marketed herself as a cross between Gwyneth Paltrow and Sheryl Sandberg. (Her second book, “Women Who Work: Rewriting the Rules for Success,” is slated for March, 2017.) Throughout her father’s unhinged Presidential campaign, she was easily his best surrogate; she is so poised that she could soften her father’s persona just by standing near him. A number of news items that might have clung to other women in the same position—old lingerie photos in men’s magazines, peculiar hearsay having to do with comments about “mulatto cock”—never stuck. Ivanka is white, wealthy, and beautiful, and these attributes often pass as moral virtues. “Classiness” does too, although it’s often just a kind of gracefulness deployed as a weapon or a shield.

Ivanka’s aesthetic differences from her father are often parsed as political differences, and she has made the most of such misperceptions. A friend of hers told Vogue in February, 2015, that the half of America that hates Donald Trump loves Ivanka—“because she’s not him!” In a November 2nd piece for BuzzFeed titled “Meet the Ivanka Voter,” Anne Helen Petersen identified a type of suburban white woman who supported Trump in vague alignment with his daughter. The Ivanka voter, she wrote, “does not think of herself as racist,” and “describes herself as ‘socially moderate.’ ” She shops at department stores that carry the Ivanka Trump Collection, and she didn’t put a Trump sign on her lawn. The Ivanka voter wasn’t comfortable explicitly endorsing Trump’s rhetoric, but, then again, neither was Ivanka. And if Ivanka stood to benefit from a Trump Administration, then surely the Ivanka voter would benefit, too.

But Ivanka, like her father, is concerned with personal profit. Her alignment with him on this matter is the basis of “The Trump Card,” in which she writes, in one section, “Gosh, I sound like my father, don’t I? But that’s what you get from this particular daddy’s girl.” The book is unmistakably aimed at women—the title is written in hot pink on the cover, which also features a blurb from Anna Wintour—but its few gender-specific sections aren’t pitched in the empowerment-heavy tone one might expect. In fact, they sound like Donald Trump. In a section about sexual harassment, Ivanka recounts the catcalls she got from construction workers growing up, then explains that these men would catcall anyone “as long as she was chromosomally correct.” She advises “separating the real harassment from the benign behavior that seems to come with the territory.”

It’s been decades since a President has come into office with adult children, and, at least among modern Presidents, none of those children had Ivanka’s public profile. (In 1976, the twenty-six-year-old Chip Carter left an eight-thousand-dollar mobile home in Georgia when he stumped for his father on the road.) Ivanka will likely continue trying to project some distance from her father’s politics—recently, she separated her own social-media accounts from the accounts of the Ivanka Trump life-style brand. But the illusion will be imperfect: her jewelry company sent out a press release about the bracelet Ivanka wore on “60 Minutes” after her father’s election; she was photographed meeting with the Japanese Prime Minister the week after the election; and she sat in on a call with the Argentinian President. She will have, and presumably use, every opportunity to enrich the family company, of which she remains an executive vice-president. This is the definition of corruption, but as laundered through Ivanka—who’s been tweeting about banana bread and posting photos of her children—it won’t look so bad.

For anyone who still finds Ivanka to be a cipher, “The Trump Card” provides a surprisingly clear indication of her instincts, particularly when she discusses her childhood. She offers a story about being forced, by her mother, to fly coach to the south of France as the moment she realized she needed to make her own money. She has a sour sense of humor: she describes attending the élite prep school Choate Rosemary Hall as an opportunity “to look at the world from a whole new angle. Even if it meant living in a building named for someone else!”

When Ivanka was a kid, she got frustrated because she couldn’t set up a lemonade stand in Trump Tower. “We had no such advantages,” she writes, meaning, in this case, an ordinary home on an ordinary street. She and her brothers finally tried to sell lemonade at their summer place in Connecticut, but their neighborhood was so ritzy that there was no foot traffic. “As good fortune would have it, we had a bodyguard that summer,” she writes. They persuaded their bodyguard to buy lemonade, and then their driver, and then the maids, who “dug deep for their spare change.” The lesson, she says, is that the kids “made the best of a bad situation.” In another early business story, she and her brothers made fake Native American arrowheads, buried them in the woods, dug them up while playing with their friends, and sold the arrowheads to their friends for five dollars each.

“The Trump Card” contains other illuminating surprises. Chapters are separated by short essays called “Bulletins from My Blackberry,” featuring advice from Ivanka’s mentors. One of these, “On Being Positive,” is by Roger Ailes, who was recently ousted from Fox after being exposed as a serial sexual harasser. “If you listen to negative people, you’ll get a migraine,” Ailes writes. In a passage about technology and distraction, Ivanka writes that her father “has no patience for . . . electronic gadgets.” She advises her readers to behave on social media: “It’s only a matter of time before some political candidate or high-level appointee is bounced from contention because he or she has been ‘tagged’ in an inappropriate photo.” And then, in a line that’s somewhat shocking to come across now: “My friend Andrew Cuomo, New York’s great attorney general, tells me that e-mail is the key to prosecuting just about everyone these days.”

For my money, though, the book’s most revealing remark arrives after Ivanka recalls a boxing match in Atlantic City, in which Mike Tyson knocked out Michael Spinks in ninety-one seconds. The crowd, having paid a lot of money and expecting more action, grew angry. Donald Trump got into the ring to calm them down, impressing his seven-year-old daughter. “That electric night in Atlantic City made me realize that it isn’t enough to win a transaction,” she writes, all these years later. “You have to be able to look the other guy in the eye and know that there is value in the deal on the other end, too—unless, of course, you’re a onetime seller and just going for the gold.”

The book does not have an acknowledgments section.

 

[rokkerkory]

Oh poor her I am sure she has had a very hard life.

 

[∀ Narayan]

This thread probably wouldn't exist if Ivanka wasn't considered attractive.

*ding ding ding*

 

[iammeiam]

Again, she's not an elected official, something some of us already knew. So comparing her to Clinton and others has no value; nobody has been able to bring about paid leave in the United States. And to strike it down simply because you don't like her, her style or father is something which we wouldn't tolerate.

Again, she comes out of the interview looking terrible because she was just there for the accolades and falls apart once facts and reality interfere. That's relevant to a thread about Ivanka, and that she's so ill-informed about her signature policy issue she lied about the opposition not having a mention of it is, again, incredibly relevant to evaluating Ivanka as an actual practical source for meaningful good in the Trump administration. This is the real presidency, not presidency junior. She doesn't get to lie or bumble around uninformed and get a free pass any more than any of Trump's other unelected advisors.

And, again, once they manifest an actual bill and move towards making the promise a reality we can debate whether or not it has validity and should pass. Given that nobody involved has really earned good will, and that the planned funding method was "eliminate unemployment fraud", I'm gonna stick with heavy skepticism that it's not going to have a pretty heavy catch. Ivanka and the Trump administration don't deserve any credit until what actually materializes is something worth having that can actually be passed, and trying to derail all discussion with "at least it's something!!!" isn't something we should tolerate either.

 

[CoconutTank]

OP bailed on this thread, like Nordstrom bailed on Ivanka Trump's brand.

Yeah for reals.

If this was meant to be a meaningful conversation, there was certainly no effort on the OP's part to push for that.

OT: No.

 

[Zaphrynn]

Remember like 3 months ago when people were treating Conway with kid gloves too? That signal was so strong her SNL portrayals was initially that of someone openly annoyed and exhausted with Trump.

Stop doing this to women. So she's a little softer than her bulbous dad. So what? She's a very active and engaged collaborator.

If you think she isn't fully aware of and leveraging the kinder public opinion of her to her dad's benefit, I have a reverse mortgage to sell you.

Yes please. People who act like Ivanka was a victim or had no hand in her dad's election or has no real agency reminds me of that story with the two women who Instagram'd smuggling cocaine. Those poor women couldn't POSSIBLY understand the repercussions of their actions and were totally manipulated ='( Despite being adults.

Ivanka is 35. Regardless of how abusive her relationship with her dad may or may not have been, she's still an asshole looking to profit of her Dad being president.

 

[Back-In-Black]

Check out super liberal Ivanka!!!

http://www.newyorker.com/books/page...ble-book-helps-explain-the-trump-family-ethos

LOL. We're done here.

 

[GuessMyUserName]

It's incredible how much people refuse to look at this 35 year-old businesswoman as an adult.

It's not even like we're talking about someone as inactive as Tiffany, Ivanka has played a major role in Trump''s campaign and is completely absorbed into the government - so much as getting her husband in the office through pure nepotism and attending meetings with global leaders she has absolutely no damn business doing. She's the active First Lady of the administration while her own private business gets literal commercials from the employees and the very president of the united states can't keep himself from openly attacking any professional that makes a negative business decision with her.

And no, she's not a god damn liberal just because she humours global warming while doing not a thing for it.

 

[IISANDERII]

Again, she comes out of the interview looking terrible because she was just there for the accolades and falls apart once facts and reality interfere. That's relevant to a thread about Ivanka, and that she's so ill-informed about her signature policy issue she lied about the opposition not having a mention of it is, again, incredibly relevant to evaluating Ivanka as an actual practical source for meaningful good in the Trump administration. This is the real presidency, not presidency junior. She doesn't get to lie or bumble around uninformed and get a free pass any more than any of Trump's other unelected advisors.

And, again, once they manifest an actual bill and move towards making the promise a reality we can debate whether or not it has validity and should pass. Given that nobody involved has really earned good will, and that the planned funding method was "eliminate unemployment fraud", I'm gonna stick with heavy skepticism that it's not going to have a pretty heavy catch. Ivanka and the Trump administration don't deserve any credit until what actually materializes is something worth having that can actually be passed, and trying to derail all discussion with "at least it's something!!!" isn't something we should tolerate either.

No credit? You're very wrong about that. Her giving it national attention and making it palatable to the Conservative crowd is huge. It may not materialize immediately but policy change takes time, erosion of collective minds. Your own link even acknowledges that it's a huge shift.

 

[Bluemongoose]

She's knee-deep in the dirt with her dad, imo. You can't play that "I'm just a coy daughter standing by her daddy" card with me. Plus, good ol' Jared is in her daddy's ear. Put her in your spank bank.

 

[triplestation]

 

[Zips]

Pretty sad how much leeway some people even on this forum want to give this woman.

Trump and everyone he is associated with are the sort of condensed trash you can only get by throwing garbage into a black hole. It was apparent during the election, flying in the face of Trump's claims to know 'the best people', and it has continued with his appointments and administration. Him and his associates are the deep, dark black morass spewed forth by the worst of America. Ivanka is not free of this taint, and I have seen no evidence that she is actually some kind-hearted liberal that some try to pass her off as.

 

[capitalCORN]

All those bleeding hearts crying for Ivanka, ICE has captured a woman in court seeking a restraining order:
http://www.elpasotimes.com/story/ne...ains-domestic-violence-victim-court/97965624/

 

[VanquishUK]

Check out super liberal Ivanka!!!

http://www.newyorker.com/books/page...ble-book-helps-explain-the-trump-family-ethos

That first paragraph is gold.

 

[Dude Abides]

No credit? You're very wrong about that. Her giving it national attention and making it palatable to the Conservative crowd is huge. It may not materialize immediately but policy change takes time, erosion of collective minds. Your own link even acknowledges that it's a huge shift.

It's bizarre that you think maternity leave was a serious proposal or that she actually cares about it.

 

[IISANDERII]

It's bizarre that you think maternity leave was a serious proposal or that she actually cares about it.

It's far more bizarre that you only think she's serious when it's something you oppose.

But I guess you don't get what a significant step it is just talking about it to the conservative base. Even if she drops it, the idea that it's possible and plausible is already unleashed and somebody else can pick up that momentum and run with it.

 

[Mr.Shrugglesツ]

Barron is the only Trump that gets a free pass from me. The rest of them are adults who are complicit in this administration.

Melania was peddling birther bullshit years ago. She is an adult, she knows what she is doing.

And the day Barron turns 18, he's fair game too, assuming he doesn't grow a conscience and bolt.

Tiffany is probably the only actual liberal in the family, who hates Trump and was estranged from him her entire life.. right up until he needed to reconcile to run for president. But, whatever amount of money is on that check is enough for her soul, so she's just as bad as the rest of them in my book.

Ivanka is using her fathers position to sit in on meetings to further enrich herself and her company. She wears jewelry to official events and then her company tweets out where you can buy it. Her husband and her are officially all in with Bannon at this point. The one thing she might have given us is killing the religious freedom EO and a pretty crappy paid family medical leave which has minimum impact. That is not enough for her to be complicit in the muslim ban, using positions of public authority to profit personally and all the Russia shit going on.

I find it sexist as fuck that Ivanka and Melania are the only ones that people want to give a pass too.

Bingo Bango

 

[Eumi]

Wait, why are we defending someone who campaigned to get Trump elected?

Because doing that kinda immediately makes her either human garbage or completely ignorant. Likely both.

 

[Supast4r]

Ok,
I can't stand Trump, I think my post history confirms it, but I think his daughter is getting a real raw deal.

She's about as liberal as it gets when it comes to the Trump family. It's as if every action she makes is blown up as a "priviledge".

Her sitting at the Resolute Desk with Trudeau and her dad is an issue? How so? She's still the daughter of a president who can sit anywhere in the oval office if she likes. Because she's 35 and not 15 makes it not ok?

People need to take it down a notch and focus on the real issue here - her dad literally acting like an Emperor.

P.S. It's perfectly O.K to swoon at Trudeau. My wife does it too.

If you are related to Trump, you get the L. No exceptions. Expect her clothing line to tank more.

 

[Usobuko]

Wait, why are we defending someone who campaigned to get Trump elected?

Because doing that kinda immediately makes her either human garbage or completely ignorant. Likely both.

She can't be ignorant when she looking to profit from it.

 

[Breakage]

I think the OP likes defending blonde white women.

 

[Joe T.]

Hey both sides.

All sides would be more apt, but that wouldn't have the same ring to it.

I find the bold section to be the most absurd part of your post, but tell the other parts not to feel bad, it was a close call.

Everything we say/do or don't say/do has an effect on those around us. If a Hillary supporter spent six months spewing hatred and hurling profanity at anyone that didn't also support her don't you think it ran the risk of alienating undecideds and galvanizing her detractors? Likewise, ignoring political discussions altogether may have inadvertently swayed someone else's opinion one way or another by virtue of our absence. There's a whole lot more to elections than simply casting a vote. The real work comes during the campaign period and this past one was more divisive than any other in our lifetimes. Our inability to communicate like civil human beings played a role in that, especially at a time where so much of our communication is happening online.

If we lived in a black and white world where everything was a binary choice it might be easier to act the way a lot of people have here (i.e. fuck everyone that didn't vote the way I did), but that's not the real world. Good luck bringing undecideds or those on the opposite side of the aisle to your party if you aren't willing to spend the time enlightening/educating them.

Especially the part where you find her comforting because her father has no political experience. So someone with no experience counseling someone with no experience... is a positive?

Not quite the same thing. Like I said, hate her all you want, but if everyone lived by this kind of logic don't be surprised if some random person on the street takes their anger out on you for something one of your family members might have done.

Chances are you're going to be giving money/support, if you haven't already, to those who work alongside Trump in some capacity when it includes names like Bob Iger. That's just the world we live in. Do you feel the same way about Disney and Tesla as you do about Ivanka and her brand, out of curiosity, guilt by association and all that?

 

[Alanood]

All of the Trump children are culpable except Barron.

 

[Username1198]

Wait, why are we defending someone who campaigned to get Trump elected?

Because doing that kinda immediately makes her either human garbage or completely ignorant. Likely both.

Yea even op isn't defending her......

LOL

 

[Figboy79]

She doesn't need a defense. She's a grown fucking woman who can speak for herself. If she felt the need to defend her support of her obnoxious and destructive father, she can do it herself. She doesn't need Internet forums to speak for her.

I'm holding that family, and every single person who supports the Trump administration accountable for the shitshiw we now live in. Maybe Baron gets a pass, because he's a kid who didn't ask for Trump to be his dad. Ivanka is 35 years old. She's responsible for her actions, and her business interests and not wanting to be cut out of the family if she goes against them informs her character. I can't respect that.

"In defense of Ivanka Trump..."

*snort* Right.

 

[Klappdrachen]

Wow, Tucker Carlson is one sexist bigot

"Liberal reaction to Ivanka Trump flight incident"

 

[Usobuko]

To profit as much as possible for these 4-8 years but to come out of it as angels to the public for doing their utmost to contain Trump? NYtimes illustrate it well.

When he behaves, word goes out that she or her husband, Jared Kushner, had his ear. When he doesn't, word goes out that it wasn't their fault, that they can do only so much and that if they hadn't valiantly moved to Washington, well, think about how much worse off we'd all be.

There's a big problem with this spin: His behavior wouldn't matter if he weren't sitting on such a lofty throne, and they helped to put him there. They empowered the mad king.

Now they want credit for mitigating the madness.

More than that, they want inoculation, so that after they've savored his reign, they're spared the stain and can return without wound or shame to the social circles in which they long traveled, where Steve Bannon is no hero and Planned Parenthood no villain.

That persona turned her into more than just a surrogate for her father, more even than a character witness. She was his alibi. He couldn't be guilty of vileness toward women because he had produced a woman as enlightened and gracious as Ivanka, who not only stood with him but spoke up for him at the Republican National Convention, assuring the world of his benevolence.

The next day her Twitter account plugged the dress she'd worn, part of the Ivanka Trump Collection. The company's website posted a montage of photos from the convention with links to the white leather satchel that was draped over her arm at one point and to the pumps she was wearing at another. And thus a daughter's love became a huckster's boon.

The children of other presidents have readily, even greedily, reaped the fruits of nepotism, but how many have done so while simultaneously suggesting that they're around to provide crucial ballast, performing an invaluable service for the American people?

Seems more like the most filthy kind of human beings to me.

 

[Herr Schwarz]

Seriously that article "flying economy to the south of France with my mum is when i knew i had to start making money"

I can't believe this shit does she genuinely believe it's her inherent business acumen that's made her so successful.

Fucking nothing worse than kids surfing the wave left in the wake of their baby boomer parents.

 

[Ishan]

It's called publicly disagreeing with parents when you disagree with them . Especially important if you're in the public space as a political family . Or at the least openly saying that's not my viewpoint it's his just not mine even if you don't go as far as to say I don't like what he's saying . It's not that hard . I disagree with family often politically call them out on it am open about our disagreements and how we compromise etc etc .


There isn't really much of a defence here ... Yeah if she was 8 but she's not ... You don't see ppl crucifying Barron for trumps mistakes ...

 

[A Serious Man]

I have to say, she's been a pretty terrible climate czar so far.

 

[Supast4r]

Ok,
I can't stand Trump, I think my post history confirms it, but I think his daughter is getting a real raw deal.

She's about as liberal as it gets when it comes to the Trump family. It's as if every action she makes is blown up as a "priviledge".

Her sitting at the Resolute Desk with Trudeau and her dad is an issue? How so? She's still the daughter of a president who can sit anywhere in the oval office if she likes. Because she's 35 and not 15 makes it not ok?

People need to take it down a notch and focus on the real issue here - her dad literally acting like an Emperor.

P.S. It's perfectly O.K to swoon at Trudeau. My wife does it too.

Would you say this if she wasn't attractive? The media/trump gives her tons of attention because she is pretty. She helped her father get into office and has done nothing to stop him from demolishing the liberal agenda that Obama put forth. She is fucking worthless for all I'm concerned. I hope her clothing line continues to fail so she can live on her fathers legacy with starting new business.

 

[Bold One]

The entire family are a cabal of fame-hungry, power-obsessed bellends.

Except Tiffany, she seems ok.

 

[triplestation]

Barron is cool too