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In your opinion, rank the Daniel Craig Bond films

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Casino Royale>Skyfall>>>>>Quantum of Solace

Pacing, geography, inventiveness was all lacking in the action in QoS. The scene in I believe Haiti is as close as the movie got to doing something interesting, but I think Forster was clearly way out of his element here. The Bond filmmakers have often tried to push the boundaries of action filmmaking (even if they couldn't help but repeat themselves many times over 50 years; thankfully no skiing sequence in a Craig film yet). But, QoS's car, boat, plane by the numbers action scenes couldn't get more vanilla in my mind. Combine that with a rushed script and boring villan and it's clearly the worst of the Craig Bond films in my mind.
 
CR >>>> SF > QoS

Somehow CR flows much better. It's a shame its
"man behind the man"
villain
will never be resolved
.
 
Casino Royale>>>Skyfall>=QoS

I liked all of them. Skyfall's story was pretty ridiculous, a lot like the older movies, but I wish they kept it a bit more sane. It had the potential to be the best Bond movie.
 
Casino Royale > Skyfall > Quantum of Solace.

I really liked Skyfall too, but I am not sure how it does as a bond film. It went way off the track and the whole "Home Alone" thing, I even remember thinking that in the theatre while leaving the theatre. I think I just liked Casino Royale better since it was more along the lines of being a classic bond movie.
 
Secret_Riddle said:
Casino Royale has a more interesting structure and it's a great character piece, but I think Skyfall is a thematically stronger film. Both have incredible action, although Skyfall gains a slight edge from Deakins. At the end of the day, they're both of similar quality..and they play well alongside one another. Right now, I'd probably place Skyfall a smidgeon above, but that might just be because it's brand new.

Skyfall=Casino Royale > Quantum of Solace
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Pretty much this. I think Skyfall had a better final act compared to CR, so it ekes out a slight win.
 
Casino Royale
Skyfall
3 pounds of shit
quantum

how anyone can put quantum above skyfall is a mystery to me...how they can put it above any film ever is a mystery. It was just bad. I had no clue what was happening
 
dorkimoe said:
Casino Royale
Skyfall
3 pounds of shit
quantum

how anyone can put quantum above skyfall is a mystery to me...how they can put it above any film ever is a mystery. It was just bad. I had no clue what was happening
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there was car chasing one other car.

A few boats crashed or flips

Some house or building blew up.
 
Host Samurai said:
Skyfall was the only one that had a "Bond" feel. The others could have all been generic action movies.
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The problem with Skyfall's "Bond" feel is that it didn't match up well AT ALL with how they were trying to combine it with the modern day Craig Bond. All of the attempts in Skyfall to make it like older Bonds was cringeworthy.
 
Eidan said:
Casino Royale falls apart after Montenegro. It's still a great movie, but that last third is one of the more boring stretches in the series.
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Yeah, it's the reason why it never fleshes out into my favorite Bond movie. The pacing for the final third is really bad and is really hard to watch after the perfection of the first 2/3's.

But I would say the longest boring stretch of any Bond movie is the entirety of Live and Let Die and the entirety of A View to a Kill. My God, so fucking boring.
 
1. Skyfall (They rebooted the series again and put some of the past James Bond era elements into use. This movie showed Bond at a low point much better than the attempt made in QoS. The intro before the opening credits and the early scenes that followed handled a depressed Bond quite well. I also liked the manner the movie went about making things personal for M and Bond himself. They are humans after all and that element was tackled really well. The next movie has a chance to have some really cool gadgetry with Q.)

2. Casino Royale (I love the shit eating grin on the tarmac and the rawness of Bond's craft that he displays throughout. The poker scene barely holds my interest. I don't like the 4th act that felt tacked on. That could have started the next movie in all honesty)

3. Quantum of Solace (Ruined by the writers strike. Action scene, dialog, action scene, dialog, action scene, dialog, action scene, dialog, action scene, dialog. It's not unwatchable. But coming from CR, it doesn't feel like the part two the story arc deserved.)
 
The Mana Legend said:
The problem with Skyfall's "Bond" feel is that it didn't match up well AT ALL with how they were trying to combine it with the modern day Craig Bond. All of the attempts in Skyfall to make it like older Bonds was cringeworthy.
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I thought the blend was really well done, myself, but that's because I'm pretty familiar with the older bonds they were choosing to homage (Goldfinger, On Her Majestys, From Russia). I'm wondering if the people decrying any link between Craig's Bond in Casino Royale and any previous Bonds are using some sort of polyglot memory of "James Bond" as opposed to having a real idea of what the good Bond movies that came previous were actually like.
 
FatboyRoberts said:
I thought the blend was really well done, myself, but that's because I'm pretty familiar with the older bonds they were choosing to homage (Goldfinger, On Her Majestys, From Russia). I'm wondering if the people decrying any link between Craig's Bond in Casino Royale and any previous Bonds are using some sort of polyglot memory of "James Bond" as opposed to having a real idea of what the good Bond movies that came previous were actually like.
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I am really familiar with Bond as well. Seen every movie (I rewatched all of them leading up to Skyfall's release), have read almost every book, etc. But the earlier Bond references were forced as all hell. I must have been the only one to not have laughed during the scene where
Bond was joking about using the ejector seat on M.
It was so damn forced.
 
richisawesome said:
You obviously have not seen On Her Majesty's Secret Service, For Your Eyes Only, Living Daylights or Licence to Kill.
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I have seen them. I disagree that they have anywhere within the same ballpark of depth as Skyfall does. This isn't necessarily always to Skyfall's credit, mind (they do occasionally get a bit wanky with the whole obsolete theme, and motherhood and whatever), but its a level of richness that most Bond films, Casino Royale included, haven't even thought of.
 
Exterminieren said:
I have seen them. I disagree that they have anywhere within the same ballpark of depth as Skyfall does. This isn't necessarily always to Skyfall's credit, mind (they do occasionally get a bit wanky with the whole obsolete theme, and motherhood and whatever), but its a level of richness that most Bond films, Casino Royale included, haven't even thought of.
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Arguably the finest moment in On Her Majesty's Secret Service - when Bond is sitting alone by the ice rink in Lauterbrunnen, a thoroughly broken and lost man with absolutely nowhere to turn, and Tracy unexpectedly skates up to him, smiling - has more emotional depth than the entirety of Skyfall.

I don't understand why people think Skyfall is a "deep" or "rich" film. Its biggest strengths are purely aesthetic.
 
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