Same applies to journalism in general than. Whiny hard Republicans/Democrats and outlets are too dependant on the government for information. And in their case, it's a helluva lot more important. Dancing around staying on the good side of the government so you don't start losing access or exclusives in comparison to your competitors is a lot more hurtful when it's politics and not just entertainment news.Guled said:Game journalism is a joke for 2 reasons, whiny fanboys and sites are too dependent on publishers.
:lolDarkpen said:1. Is Metal Gear's universe coherent?
Yes.
godhandiscen said:I agree. However, I believe N'gai was bashed today because he criticized a title many people love.
So basically, you could care less.Llyranor said:Other words being overused around these parts also include "you're" and "they're".
Is this serious? Are you being serious or are you cleverly trying to sound like someone pretentious from the 1970s? If so, I applaud your devilish use of irony.Mr. Spinnington said:wtf is this homo shit, OP. don't be a noob and stop being so elitist
:lolPeronthious said:I detect a hint of ludonarrative dissonance in the verisimilitude of your utterances.
The dictionary is just a pretentious crutch to fall back on for people who can't figure out what a word really means in a certain context. Weak-sauce bro. Weak-sauce.Darkpen said:pretentious
adjective
1: characterized by pretension: as a: making usually unjustified or excessive claims (as of value or standing) <the pretentious fraud who assumes a love of culture that is alien to him — Richard Watts> b: expressive of affected, unwarranted, or exaggerated importance, worth, or stature <pretentious language> <pretentious houses>
2: making demands on one's skill, ability, or means : ambitious <the pretentious daring of the Green Mountain Boys in crossing the lake — American Guide Series: Vermont>
I think we're using different definitions here.
As far as I'm concerned, the MGS series has always been a very smooth ride as far as understanding what the game had to say. Unless you live under a rock, I really don't know how MGS can be pretentious when it explains everything to you with long cutscenes to begin with :/
HiResDes said:Really I think the most overused word in the gaming community are all compound words beginning with over: overused, overrated, overall, overdone, overact, overanalyzing
Jive Turkey said::lol
Oh man that was good.
zaidr said:Why can't games just be games?
I sort of agree here. I definitely agree with you that games don't have to be traditional fun. Not sure about the word usage. Though I agree "game" has certain connotations attached, I'm not sure if there even is an alternative we can use. "Interactive Entertainment / Interactive Art" is a little long... Movies have it so easy with the word "film".Cartman86 said:Sessler really had it right when he said that the word GAME is really messing with us. Game brings up images of Monolopy or something you play to have fun. Games don't have to be traditional fun. They can be thought provoking, sad, funny etc. And for me all of those emotions lead to fun. Most people wouldn't say they had fun after watching Schindler's List. Yet I would say my time viewing films like that actually is. Having to think hard, or go through an emotional roller coaster ride is for me fun.
Variety is the spice of life.
Tain said:hey man
can we add "elitist"?
legend166 said:I dunno, when games journalists try to elevate their writing above the standard, we get stuff like "Oscar worthy story" and putting MGS4 as some sort of profound storytelling.
Cartman86 said:Sessler really had it right when he said that the word GAME is really messing with us. Game brings up images of Monolopy or something you play to have fun. Games don't have to be traditional fun. They can be thought provoking, sad, funny etc. And for me all of those emotions lead to fun. Most people wouldn't say they had fun after watching Schindler's List. Yet I would say my time viewing films like that actually is. Having to think hard, or go through an emotional roller coaster ride is for me fun.
While I really hate to bump this thread after 2 days, I just wanted to respond to this. I don't think MGS's ideas are banal at all. I think that the way the stories present its message is by constructing it over the medium, borrowing western film and storytelling styles (i.e. good guy vs bad guy), which itself is created from a Japanese viewpoint, creating a rather unique taste that attracts the fans the way it does.Worm_Buffet said:So you agree that the MGS series' ideas are ultimately banal? Why didn't you say so in the first place? Are you baiting to be a hero of the web?
:lolThe Take Out Bandit said:Baby's First Dictionary?
You know, the word?Rayo said:pretentious?
Truant said:This thread is preteensious.
To expect any more than that is pretentious.Firestorm said:You know, the point of this thread wasn't overused words. It was specifically about the misuse of the word pretentious and what the causes of that misuse could possibly be. Do people read anything more than the title anymore?
I think that it is usually the developers who get called pretentious, not the actual games. Braid was pretty much marketed as a game only really smart people would "get", and people were falling all over themselves to "get it" better than everyone else.Firestorm said:It annoys me when people call Braid (and MGS) pretentious too. God forbid a man actually tries to convey a message, as convoluted or silly as it may be, in his work.
Cartman86 said:Sessler really had it right when he said that the word GAME is really messing with us. Game brings up images of Monolopy or something you play to have fun. Games don't have to be traditional fun. They can be thought provoking, sad, funny etc. And for me all of those emotions lead to fun. Most people wouldn't say they had fun after watching Schindler's List. Yet I would say my time viewing films like that actually is. Having to think hard, or go through an emotional roller coaster ride is for me fun.
Variety is the spice of life.
"Innovative and intuitive" are words used by stupid people to sound clever and important.Mamesj said:nah, innovative and intuitive are words that can be attached to real phenomena. "Pretentious" is like the "she's a witch!" of the 21st century. Something used by dumb people to explain away things they don't understand.