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Insomniac betrayalton! And nobody cares?
- Thread starter Napalm_Frank
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Not that many but if you visit the Insomniac forums there are a handful of them.
ChamplooJones
Formerly Momotaro
Still think the best thing they did was Up Your Arsenal. Fell in love with that game when I got it for Christmas in 04. One of the finest (and funniest) 3D platformers ever released.
Fuse however was gutter trash! Just had to get that off my chest.
Fuse however was gutter trash! Just had to get that off my chest.
Acrylic7
Member
Resistance 1 is still their best work on ps3. I still think UYA and Going Commando are better then the Future series :/
They shine when they are creative.
Just look at this. I think about this every time a Insomniac thread pops up.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=493237
They shine when they are creative.
Just look at this. I think about this every time a Insomniac thread pops up.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=493237
CosmicGroinPull
Member
I've only played R&C and Resistance 1. Liked R&C better.
Nope, don't really care about this 'betrayalton'. Wish them the best of luck though.
Nope, don't really care about this 'betrayalton'. Wish them the best of luck though.
It would have been a betraylalton if they shifted gears immediately after Resistance3, but the episode Fuse happened, and the writing was on the wall (them targetting other plateforms). I always liked them, despite not being a fan of their output. They appear to be genuine and passionate, and their decision of going multi and expanding their audiance is understandable. Good luck to them!
I loved all the Ratchet and Clank games on PS2, ** LOVED ** the first Resistance game, but R2 was just too hard to overlook, and I just wasn't feeling the later R&C games on PS3. I wish them all the success in the world, and hopefully I'll get to play something from them on PS4 one of these years.
AgentChris
Member
I wonder what Mark Cerny thinks of Insomniac these days. Pretty cool to see how Naughty Dog and Insomniac evolved over the past 15 years.
I have zero problem with them making exclusive they are 3rd party they can do what they want.
But I do have a problem with this:
I dont like that at all.
But I do have a problem with this:
http://www.insomniacgames.com/a-message-from-ted-sunset-overdrive/
I dont like that at all.
DangerMouse
Member
Pretty much this part, though the first two Rachets that enhanced the PS2 goodness in A Crack in Time and Tools of Destruction were totally fantastic (Resistance 1 was pretty good too, got it at launch). At least I've got the Rachet movie to look forward to. Apparently great guys, stupid decision, good luck since there's no way I'll be able to consider playing it, hope afterwards you come back for a real Rachet (or new game like it) some day it would probably look great on PS4 looking at ToD and ACiT.
Yup, and we pretty much know what the sales breakdown is probably going to be on both of these too. Even with Microsoft's higher install base it didn't really matter for Final Fantasy even in their strongest market, an advantage that won't even exist this time.
Huh? The critics are in love in with Ninja Theory while Insomniac's last couple of games have received mediocre scores. Insomniac creates competent gameplay in drab worlds and receives middling scores. Ninja Theory delivers shallow but cinematic experiences and critics fawn over them. I'm not seeing the similarities.
Solid, respectable output overall, with flashes of brilliance, at a higher volume than most devs their size. Great work ethic and treat their employees like royalty. What's not to be a fan of?
I love Jak and Daxter. Love it to death. Greatest Trilogy out of Sony, no doubt. Nothing can compare. Calling Jak and Daxter intricate? I'll have to disagree there. It had the same amount of intricacy in it's gunplay/combat as the R&C series did. The only thing that made it stand above R&C was the overall story, but then again the stories are hard to compare. J&D is really about the tale of the classic Hero, whereas R&C feels more akin to a saturday morning cartoon in which everything happens really differently with no sense of looking back to the plot of the previous title in terms story progression. That's why the Future series exist, and why the Future series has a much better story than the original R&C games.
Complex? Nothing really that complex about Jak and Daxter, despite the quality.
Jak 1 = collect-a-thon w/ story.
Jak 2 = open world platformer w/ story.
Jak 3 = RACING-focused platformer w/ story.
Two great franchises for the PS2 that still stand the test of time, but both are pretty darn simple.
If there are Compile Heart/Idea Factory fans, there are Insomniac fans.
With all due respect
Agreed, love IG.
Ploid 3.0
Member
Insomniac may need the money. EA partners was seemingly a bleh arrangement, what is with EA not supporting their partner program much? At least Insomniac is still alive, unlike that Kingdom of Amalure (sp) dev.
I think Insomniac liked the cloud, and xbox's always online stuff. I don't know, Ted knows.
Again was Sunset Overdrive CG like Overstrike made by Blur, or was it in engine assets stuff? I have a feeling they may have given Blur a idea of what they want to do again, but have no intention of making the game look like what was presented. It happened with FUSE, I hope they didn't make that mistake again. The bait and switch was a tough pill for me to swallow with Overstrike/FUSE. Not that I'm buying a xbox one for Sunset.
graywolf323
Member
that philosophy part is just plain weird
the top comments to that say a lot, lots of upset fan accusing him of BS
this one stood out to me, it has 40 likes
Shaik Bajunid said:
Better fit = it's a polite way of implying a money hat.
ProfessorMoran
Member
Wow I'm surprised by the backlash, the whole point of moving away from making games for Sony is to expand their audience, which clearly didn't happen with FUSE, going exclusive on the $500 xbone that is receiving a beating in public opinion due to DRM (and the price obviously) isn't exactly going to help them accomplish that either. Ted always seems like a nice guy saying all these nice things, but his message read like pure PR.
Ninja Moomin
Banned
what a load of childish shit. They are a supplier and have been paid by a client to deliver a service. There's no betrayal in it unless you have your own agenda in the mix.
time people grew up
Bungie never was MS owned studio. They were second party.
What. I thought they were owned by MS?
ProfessorMoran
Member
Actually Bungie got bought out by MS, but I doubt the two cultures ever meshed well, at the end of the day Bungie wanted out. I wonder out of all of MS' acquisitions how many of them actually worked out well.
Because after that old Playstation heritage, Naughty Dog went on to make Uncharted and The Last of Us. Insomniac made Resistance and FUSE.
yeah. i'd prefer if they just said that they had this idea they really liked and microsoft was willing to make it happen and allow them to control the ip, which they value. talking about it in terms of infinite power of the cloud just rubs me the wrong way.
Oh my... please tell me that Google logo doesn't show up in Resistance 2 everywhere lol
I was a Spyro and Ratchet fan.
But it's hard to believe that they'll deliver that kind of quality again after their latest escapades.
They're doing a Ratchet and Clank movie, and I kinda sorta hope that that'll be the end of it all; if just to spare the the series from Insomniac's ill-conceived positioning as a true "third party."
ChamplooJones
Formerly Momotaro
It's like ND and Insomniac did a switcheroo in terms of quality and sales.
Sony owns naughty dog, like it's an actual subsidiary
Yep. Better companies have fallen from grace..
Insomniac have been making bad or irrelevant games since Resistance 2 and making bad business decisions since Resistance 3. That they would go exclusive with X1 is either a horrendous business decision or a sign that they desperately need money.
Perhaps if Sunset Overdrive failed we'd be looking at a shutdown scenario.
They make their own bed.
velociraptor
Junior Member
I just want another Ratchet and Clank for the PS4.
Do it Insomniac!
Do it Insomniac!
Have there been ad-hominem attacks in the thread? Otherwise I'm not really sure what you are cringing at, we're talking about the quality of their games on a gaming forum and how said quality has generated such apathy for their newest announced title.
Edit: Sorry, quoted the wrong person.
Unknown One
Member
*Not co op focused and not as an experiment for other games.
They wanted to go multiplat so they signed another first party deal? That's certainly an interesting way to do it.
Thought I read the first post two times but missed that - my bad!
Doesn't bother me though.
I've been disappointed in basically everything since A Crack in Time...
It's sad to think the Ratchet Series is done
Yeah, but A Crack in Time will always be a hell of a game. For me, second only to the Galaxy series in terms of 3D platforming. Go back to what you do best, Insomniac, and all is forgiven.
Monty Mole
Member
Excited about TLAO, especially after that incredible demo. But I'd still rather play a Ratchet game from Insomniac's glory days.
Bungie leaving MS was interesting, people seem to play that as MS losing out, but really, they couldn't prevent them, they could have kept the studio name, like Infinity Ward, but when their next game came out, we'd all still say it was the Halo team, as we currently do about TitanFall.