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I sort of liked it. It was a remake of Contact but not as good. In Contact, you could hear what the characters were saying.
This guys gets it.It is a terrible film, yes.
There are a small number of good/powerful scenes. The majority of the movie is trash. A lot of it is ridiculous and at its worst tone-deaf (for instance it picks the absolute worst possible moment to make a joke about head butting).
Its plot is thin and its characters, largely, don't feel real. In the slightest.
It's contrived and not even in a way that services a good plot, like The Prestige. It's just things happening detached from any sense of reality, in locale or character behaviour.
Gravity and Interstellar are big budget space films. We don't get a whole lot of those, so I appreciate the effort, even if dialogue drags the movie down some.
I liked it but struggled with the uplifting "love conquers all elements".Finally got around to watching this movie Beautiful to look at. Great acting from Matt. But boy it seemed just hollow and seemed to have little to say. Its almost like the sole purpose of the movie was to pay some homage to 2001.
Biggest gripes I had:
1. Incredibly, incredibly predictable.
2. Sappy. Its almost insulting that Cooper got back to his daughter problem free to say goodbye face to face.
3. Somewhat baffling internal logic. I'm perplexed at the world and cannot suspend my disbelief that some weird blight is fucking up our food supply but LOL we can go into space and hibernate for years at a time no problem.
The movie was pretty to look at, at least.
I liked everything but the story.
Finally got around to watching this movie Beautiful to look at. Great acting from Matt. But boy it seemed just hollow and seemed to have little to say. Its almost like the sole purpose of the movie was to pay some homage to 2001.
Biggest gripes I had:
1. Incredibly, incredibly predictable.
2. Sappy. Its almost insulting that Cooper got back to his daughter problem free to say goodbye face to face.
3. Somewhat baffling internal logic. I'm perplexed at the world and cannot suspend my disbelief that some weird blight is fucking up our food supply but LOL we can go into space and hibernate for years at a time no problem.
The movie was pretty to look at, at least.
Meyerowitz: I can conceive of a totally lethal generalist: a pathogen that attacks chloroplasts. Chloroplasts are something that all plants have in common. They are crucial to photosynthesis (the process where a plant combines sunlight with carbon dioxide from the air, and water from its roots, to produce carbohydrates that it needs for growth). Without chloroplasts, a plant will die. Now suppose that some new pathogen evolves, for example in the oceans, that attacks chloroplasts. It could wipe out all algae and plant life in the oceans, and jump to the land where it wipes out all land plants. So everything becomes a desert. This is possible; I see nothing to prevent it. But it’s not very plausible. It is unlikely ever to happen, but it could be a basis for Cooper’s world.
Suppose evolution creates a pathogen that destroys chloroplasts, as speculated by Elliot Meyerowitz at the end of the last chapter. Photosynthesis ends, not all at once, but gradually as plants die out. O2 is no longer being created, but it is still being destroyed by breathing, burning, and decay—primarily decay, it turns out. Fortunately for the remaining humans, there is not enough decaying plant life on the Earth's surface to swallow up all the O2.
Most of the decay will be finished after thirty years, and only about 1 percent of the O2 will be used up. There is still plenty for Cooper's children and grandchildren to breathe, if they can find anything to eat.
But that 1 percent of the atmospheric O2 will have been converted into carbondioxide, which means 0.2 percent of the atmosphere will then be CO2 (since most of the atmosphere is nitrogen). That's enough CO2 to make breathing unpleasant for highly sensitive people and per. haps drive the Earth's temperature up (via the greenhouse effect) by ro degrees Celsius (18 degrees Fahrenheit)—unpleasant for everyone, to put it mildly!
To make everyone's breathing uncomfortable and induce drowsiness, ten times more atmospheric O2 would have to be converted into CO2; and to kill most everyone by CO2 poisoning, an additional five times more would have to be converted, a factor of fifty in all. I have not found a plausible mechanism for this.
So is Professor Brand wrong? (Even theoretical physicists can make mistakes. Especially theoretical physicists. I know; I am one.) Probably yes, he is wrong, but conceivably no. The Professor could be right, but it would require geophysicists' understanding of ocean bottoms to be severely flawed.
There is undecayed organic material on the ocean bottoms as well as on land. Geophysicists estimate that the amount on ocean bottoms is about one-twentieth that on land. If they are wrong and there is fifty times more on the ocean bottoms than on land, and if there is a mechanism to quickly dredge it up, then its decay to produce CO2 could leave everyone gasping for oxygen and dying of CO2 poisoning.
Now, once every many thousand years, an instability triggers the ocean to turn over. Water from the surface sinks to the bottom and drives bottom water to the surface. It is conceivable that in Cooper's era there is such an overturn so vigorous that the upwelling bottom water brings with itself most of the ocean bottoms' organic material. Suddenly exposed to the atmosphere, this material could decay, converting atmospheric O2 into lethal amounts of CO2.
Conceivable, yes. But highly improbable on two counts: highly unlikely that there is 1000 times more undecayed ocean-bottom organic material than geophysicists think, and highly unlikely that a sufficiently vigorous oceanic overturn will occur.
Nevertheless, in Interstellar the Earth is surely dying and humanity must find a new home. The solar system, aside from Earth, is inhospitable, so the search is on, beyond our solar system.
You got caught up in the Gaf hype train didn't you?
What have you learnt?
You got caught up in the Gaf hype train didn't you?
What have you learnt?
I was expecting some crazy dramatic moment when they totally fucked up and spent a little too long on the first planet. Instead the guy who had been waiting for decades was like. I studied the black hole and they were like, high five bro good job. He didn't seem traumatized at all.
I can tell you went into the film trying to find something not to like about it. Its a shame i guess, your first experience of watching a good film ruined.
3. Somewhat baffling internal logic. I'm perplexed at the world and cannot suspend my disbelief that some weird blight is fucking up our food supply but LOL we can go into space and hibernate for years at a time no problem.
This scene was the most emotionally touching scene in the film and i loved it. The whole cinema was quiet, you could hear a pin drop and your hear race as the scientist left behind was explaining how long they had been gone and what he was doing.
I can tell you went into the film trying to find something not to like about it. Its a shame i guess, your first experience of watching a good film ruined.
3. Somewhat baffling internal logic. I'm perplexed at the world and cannot suspend my disbelief that some weird blight is fucking up our food supply but LOL we can go into space and hibernate for years at a time no problem.
Finally got around to watching this movie Beautiful to look at. Great acting from Matt. But boy it seemed just hollow and seemed to have little to say. Its almost like the sole purpose of the movie was to pay some homage to 2001.
Biggest gripes I had:
1. Incredibly, incredibly predictable.
2. Sappy. Its almost insulting that Cooper got back to his daughter problem free to say goodbye face to face.
3. Somewhat baffling internal logic. I'm perplexed at the world and cannot suspend my disbelief that some weird blight is fucking up our food supply but LOL we can go into space and hibernate for years at a time no problem.
The movie was pretty to look at, at least.
I was expecting some crazy dramatic moment when they totally fucked up and spent a little too long on the first planet. Instead the guy who had been waiting for decades was like. I studied the black hole and they were like, high five bro good job. He didn't seem traumatized at all.
That's what you had a problem with, that you can't believe that there's something effecting crop growth? Next to hibernation in space it is sci-fi, but the two don't correlate with each other.
Obviously the point in going into space/etc was because of the crops, I don't know why that was so hard to get past. I was like "Okay, crop issues, nitrogen decreasing, got it, done" and moved on.
Sounds like a weak argument on that point at least.
That's what you had a problem with, that you can't believe that there's something effecting crop growth? Next to hibernation in space it is sci-fi, but the two don't correlate with each other.
Obviously the point in going into space/etc was because of the crops, I don't know why that was so hard to get past. I was like "Okay, crop issues, nitrogen decreasing, got it, done" and moved on.
Sounds like a weak argument on that point at least.
You mean like how they lost 23 years and Cooper watches his son via a tv screen become a man, get married, have a kid, and have that kid die? In that his son tells him also that his father in law is deas And then he finslly says that he's not going to send any messages ever again because he has to move on and let go of his dad. Then after all that he finally gets his first ever message from Murph after all that time now as a grown women (who is now exactly the same age as him) only for her to basically say that as far as she's concerned he's dead and abandonned them and that she'll never send another message ever again either.
All this while we see Cooper completely fall apart emotionally as basically all that happened to him in oh whst 2-3 hours?
You mean that crazy dramatic moment?
i also didn't like it that much. i expected more science and less hollywood for some reason.
Its ridiculous to go from crop issues to "Ok to save ourselves from these crop issues, let's fly humanity to another planet through this warm hole that brings us to this colossal black hole". Just didn't fit. What a fucking epic trek through space because potato famine magically can't be dealt with. We magically can't just synthesize all appropriate proteins and vitamins needed without plant life. Sorry nope, gotta leave the earth, through a worm hole, skirt around a black hole. These crazy crops will be the end of humanity.
I liked it alot, beautiful movie, the feels were great too.
Shame that Thanos died in it
It's not just a lack of food. The blight infects all oxygen-producing plant life on Earth. The planet is becoming inhospitable for aerobic life forms. As was said in the movie, "The last ones to starve will be the first to suffocate".
I think the OP is saying that a humanity smart enough to figure out space hibernation and intergalactic travel (albeit aided by the wormhole McGuffin) is a humanity that should also be smart enough to have stopped the blight or figured out an alternative way of feeding its populace.
Its ridiculous to go from crop issues to "Ok to save ourselves from these crop issues, let's fly humanity to another planet through this warm hole that brings us to this colossal black hole". Just didn't fit. What a fucking epic trek through space because potato famine magically can't be dealt with. We magically can't just synthesize all appropriate proteins and vitamins needed without plant life. Sorry nope, gotta leave the earth, through a worm hole, skirt around a black hole. These crazy crops will be the end of humanity.
But why should they be able to solve the crop issue? It's their world, their made up plague and that's it. We can go into space now but can't cure things now so, lets ramp that up to the future with a massive disaster in slow motion.
Also it's not about food, it's about the atmosphere changing to the point that humans won't be able to breath any more.
It's hard to handle a story that has two conflicting MacGuffin's. I'll go with them on humanity being capable of Intergalactic travel because of some contrivance. I'll go with a blight killing or plant life on Earth, making the planet inhospitable. But two MacGuffin's that somewhat conflict demands a really solid story, and Interstellar doesn't have one. Instead it keeps throwing MacGuffin's onto the pile. "An physically explorable fifth dimension", "The 'solving' of gravity". It gets ridiculous.
In the science companion book, their science adviser admits that it is unlikely, but in the realm of possibility. I don't think it was poorly handled, given that it's a plot device that is based in the realm of possibility, that fits well with the theme of mankind's impact on the Earth, and the Dust Bowl allusions.I know, just felt unlikely and poorly handled. I understand the premise they were going for.
Intelligent in what way? In the narrative? In the science? Because science-wise, it was all pretty tight. There are some stretches and artistic licenses, but nothing that hard violates any laws of physics completely. A lot of the more fantastical elements are at least based somewhat in speculative theory.Both tried to be more intelligent than they actually were and took themselves way too seriously without being able to live up to it.
That's what I liked about this movie, though. It's not riddled with science holes. It embraces the science and shows that hard scifi doesn't have to make stuff up to be interesting. I mean, it amazing how their work on visualizing the black hole actually gave them new insights into both astrophysics and computer graphics, allowing them to publish actual papers on both subjects.You can bet everyones favourite sci fi film is probably riddled with science holes.
It's great just for the docking scene alone and that music during said scene...*goosebumps*. The whole damn soundtrack/score is great actually.
Also, as amazing as that docking scene was - where did the fucking black hole come from? Did it follow them from the first planet? it was nowhere near Matt Damon's planet, yet there it is, as soon as they leave the atmosphere.
Dumb, beautiful nonsense.
Elongated orbits dude. Space is not an highway , nor planets move like a car....
At least have some sense in the criticism.
ok, then they could have gone straight to Matt Damon's planet and come back to planet one after the black hole had moved away.
I sort of liked it. It was a remake of Contact but not as good. In Contact, you could hear what the characters were saying.
Finally got around to watching this movie Beautiful to look at. Great acting from Matt. But boy it seemed just hollow and seemed to have little to say. Its almost like the sole purpose of the movie was to pay some homage to 2001.
Biggest gripes I had:
1. Incredibly, incredibly predictable.
2. Sappy. Its almost insulting that Cooper got back to his daughter problem free to say goodbye face to face.
3. Somewhat baffling internal logic. I'm perplexed at the world and cannot suspend my disbelief that some weird blight is fucking up our food supply but LOL we can go into space and hibernate for years at a time no problem.
The movie was pretty to look at, at least.