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Interstellar. No sir, I didn't like it.

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It's like most Nolan films. Does just fine until the last act where it all falls to pieces.

Best thing about it was the soundtrack.

Interstellar made me realise that despite True Detective, Matthew Mcconaughey is still a B-grade actor.
 
It's not one of his best films, but I still thought it was a good movie.

Much better than The Dark Knight Rises, at the very least.
 
It is a terrible film, yes.

There are a small number of good/powerful scenes. The majority of the movie is trash. A lot of it is ridiculous and at its worst tone-deaf (for instance it picks the absolute worst possible moment to make a joke about head butting).

Its plot is thin and its characters, largely, don't feel real. In the slightest.

It's contrived and not even in a way that services a good plot, like The Prestige. It's just things happening detached from any sense of reality, in locale or character behaviour.
 
It is a terrible film, yes.

There are a small number of good/powerful scenes. The majority of the movie is trash. A lot of it is ridiculous and at its worst tone-deaf (for instance it picks the absolute worst possible moment to make a joke about head butting).

Its plot is thin and its characters, largely, don't feel real. In the slightest.

It's contrived and not even in a way that services a good plot, like The Prestige. It's just things happening detached from any sense of reality, in locale or character behaviour.
This guys gets it.
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Finally got around to watching this movie Beautiful to look at. Great acting from Matt. But boy it seemed just hollow and seemed to have little to say. Its almost like the sole purpose of the movie was to pay some homage to 2001.

Biggest gripes I had:

1. Incredibly, incredibly predictable.
2. Sappy. Its almost insulting that Cooper got back to his daughter problem free to say goodbye face to face.
3. Somewhat baffling internal logic. I'm perplexed at the world and cannot suspend my disbelief that some weird blight is fucking up our food supply but LOL we can go into space and hibernate for years at a time no problem.

The movie was pretty to look at, at least.
I liked it but struggled with the uplifting "love conquers all elements".

As for point 3. it's irreilivent to judging the film though as I've pointed out yo others. Besides the hokey "love conquers" stuff the film is about acceptance of the impermanence of Earth and looking beyond existence on Earth and exploration as vital for survival of the species. The "Blight" is merely a Maguffin in the purest sense to justify the need to leave. Of course the film isn't about using technology to resolve it instead of leaving because that's not the point of the film.

It's kind of a pity otherwise: if you imagine removing the "love" elements while keeping everything you'd have a decent SF film with some terrific use of both accepted and theoretical science.

But I can get people struggling with it. I think it spends too long on Earth and the Blight which causes you to wonder why it's just accepted (when as a Maguffin it should be quickly introduced then moved on from) and Brands speech and the idea love is vital for Coop to find the right "moment" jars I think and isn't even needed.

Loved the space (lol at typo - soap!) elements though and wish more running time was given to them.
 
A movie should never make you close your eyes, cover your face with your hand in embarrassment, and let out an audible groan.

But man, when Anne Hathaway cut loose with her monologue... yeah, I did that.

I didn't do this when watching the horrendous Spider-Man 3.

I didn't do this when watching the excruciating Revenge of the Fallen.

That really tells you something. Truly, one of the low points of cinema.
 
I can see why this movie is controversial, but I think it was great and my third favorite movie of the year. I saw it 4 times and can't say it gets worse on repeated viewings.

I'm all for reasoned negative opinions about this film but some people (like the poster above me) are clearly exaggerating like always on the internet.
 
Finally got around to watching this movie Beautiful to look at. Great acting from Matt. But boy it seemed just hollow and seemed to have little to say. Its almost like the sole purpose of the movie was to pay some homage to 2001.

Biggest gripes I had:

1. Incredibly, incredibly predictable.
2. Sappy. Its almost insulting that Cooper got back to his daughter problem free to say goodbye face to face.
3. Somewhat baffling internal logic. I'm perplexed at the world and cannot suspend my disbelief that some weird blight is fucking up our food supply but LOL we can go into space and hibernate for years at a time no problem.

The movie was pretty to look at, at least.

Predictable at some parts, but the tropes balanced out somewhat. For example: Stranded human goes crazy trope was used, but AI companion robot goes rampant trope was not used.

I didn't mind the sappiness too much. It was great experiencing the human emotion contrasted against the harsh, stark blackness of space and the end of mankind. I think it fit the theme of the movie well enough.

As stated in the science companion book to the movie, the blight is improbable, but not impossible. They consulted with 4 biologists at Caltech to come up with a scenario that could conceivably occur. Besides, the exact details are left vague on purpose. Humans did a lot to fuck up Earth a lot already. Even in today's reality, we are worried about the negative global effects of human activity on Earth. They also hinted at wars so great that no one bothers to even have a military anymore because everyone's dead. It's sort of like the "Great Mistake" plot device in Civilization: Beyond Earth. All you need to know is that we fucked up bad.

Meyerowitz: I can conceive of a totally lethal generalist: a pathogen that attacks chloroplasts. Chloroplasts are something that all plants have in common. They are crucial to photosynthesis (the process where a plant combines sunlight with carbon dioxide from the air, and water from its roots, to produce carbohydrates that it needs for growth). Without chloroplasts, a plant will die. Now suppose that some new pathogen evolves, for example in the oceans, that attacks chloroplasts. It could wipe out all algae and plant life in the oceans, and jump to the land where it wipes out all land plants. So everything becomes a desert. This is possible; I see nothing to prevent it. But it’s not very plausible. It is unlikely ever to happen, but it could be a basis for Cooper’s world.

Suppose evolution creates a pathogen that destroys chloroplasts, as speculated by Elliot Meyerowitz at the end of the last chapter. Photosynthesis ends, not all at once, but gradually as plants die out. O2 is no longer being created, but it is still being destroyed by breathing, burning, and decay—primarily decay, it turns out. Fortunately for the remaining humans, there is not enough decaying plant life on the Earth's surface to swallow up all the O2.

Most of the decay will be finished after thirty years, and only about 1 percent of the O2 will be used up. There is still plenty for Cooper's children and grandchildren to breathe, if they can find anything to eat.

But that 1 percent of the atmospheric O2 will have been converted into carbondioxide, which means 0.2 percent of the atmosphere will then be CO2 (since most of the atmosphere is nitrogen). That's enough CO2 to make breathing unpleasant for highly sensitive people and per. haps drive the Earth's temperature up (via the greenhouse effect) by ro degrees Celsius (18 degrees Fahrenheit)—unpleasant for everyone, to put it mildly!

To make everyone's breathing uncomfortable and induce drowsiness, ten times more atmospheric O2 would have to be converted into CO2; and to kill most everyone by CO2 poisoning, an additional five times more would have to be converted, a factor of fifty in all. I have not found a plausible mechanism for this.

So is Professor Brand wrong? (Even theoretical physicists can make mistakes. Especially theoretical physicists. I know; I am one.) Probably yes, he is wrong, but conceivably no. The Professor could be right, but it would require geophysicists' understanding of ocean bottoms to be severely flawed.

There is undecayed organic material on the ocean bottoms as well as on land. Geophysicists estimate that the amount on ocean bottoms is about one-twentieth that on land. If they are wrong and there is fifty times more on the ocean bottoms than on land, and if there is a mechanism to quickly dredge it up, then its decay to produce CO2 could leave everyone gasping for oxygen and dying of CO2 poisoning.

Now, once every many thousand years, an instability triggers the ocean to turn over. Water from the surface sinks to the bottom and drives bottom water to the surface. It is conceivable that in Cooper's era there is such an overturn so vigorous that the upwelling bottom water brings with itself most of the ocean bottoms' organic material. Suddenly exposed to the atmosphere, this material could decay, converting atmospheric O2 into lethal amounts of CO2.

Conceivable, yes. But highly improbable on two counts: highly unlikely that there is 1000 times more undecayed ocean-bottom organic material than geophysicists think, and highly unlikely that a sufficiently vigorous oceanic overturn will occur.

Nevertheless, in Interstellar the Earth is surely dying and humanity must find a new home. The solar system, aside from Earth, is inhospitable, so the search is on, beyond our solar system.

One of the best movies of 2014, IMO. It gave me more feels than Whiplash, and that's a hard thing to do.
 
I'm a massive Nolan fan but I thought the love transends was either a concept stretched little too far or the deliver of the underlying message was just presented poorly. Which is really suprising when you consider Inception is technically just a complex concept but was delivered WWWWWAAAAYYYY better. I really do think Nolan doesnt get enough credit for that film
 
I was expecting some crazy dramatic moment when they totally fucked up and spent a little too long on the first planet. Instead the guy who had been waiting for decades was like. I studied the black hole and they were like, high five bro good job. He didn't seem traumatized at all.

This scene was the most emotionally touching scene in the film and i loved it. The whole cinema was quiet, you could hear a pin drop and your hear race as the scientist left behind was explaining how long they had been gone and what he was doing.

I can tell you went into the film trying to find something not to like about it. Its a shame i guess, your first experience of watching a good film ruined.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOipaf5Rt9o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoLkabPK3YU
 
3. Somewhat baffling internal logic. I'm perplexed at the world and cannot suspend my disbelief that some weird blight is fucking up our food supply but LOL we can go into space and hibernate for years at a time no problem.

Could you scientifically elaborate this comment ? They way you posted doesn't make a lot of sense. Gives us some insight about the scientifically evolution and contradiction between those events. What generates your "bafflement".

Because the scenario was more or less theorized by biologists. Seen as an improbability but not an impossibility. I understand criticism regarding that solution but the moment you bring logic , at least develop it properly.
 
This scene was the most emotionally touching scene in the film and i loved it. The whole cinema was quiet, you could hear a pin drop and your hear race as the scientist left behind was explaining how long they had been gone and what he was doing.

I can tell you went into the film trying to find something not to like about it. Its a shame i guess, your first experience of watching a good film ruined.

The only reason you could hear a pin drop during that scene is that the music quieted down for a moment.

It had the makings of a good scene, but the weight of what happened wasn't properly conveyed. The dude's like "I've been here for years", and the crew have an expression of "Sorry?" and the dude's like "Ok". It's inconsequential. It wasn't even a particularly well acted moment.

Had that been the root of betrayal, or anger than divided the crew, then it would have been interesting.

The messages scene, however, was one of the few powerful ones. Matthew McConaughey does an exceptional job. That scene, and "Murph, don't let me leave like this" stick out as particularly powerful. But Interstellar only has a few scenes like that.
 
People who say this film is sappy are emotionless monsters! I was almost in tears during the goodbye take off scene with the outstanding score by Hans Zimmer. Don't even get me started on the 20 years video scene or docking or even the reuniting end with old Murph.
 
3. Somewhat baffling internal logic. I'm perplexed at the world and cannot suspend my disbelief that some weird blight is fucking up our food supply but LOL we can go into space and hibernate for years at a time no problem.

That's what you had a problem with, that you can't believe that there's something effecting crop growth? Next to hibernation in space it is sci-fi, but the two don't correlate with each other.
Obviously the point in going into space/etc was because of the crops, I don't know why that was so hard to get past. I was like "Okay, crop issues, nitrogen decreasing, got it, done" and moved on.

Sounds like a weak argument on that point at least.
 
Finally got around to watching this movie Beautiful to look at. Great acting from Matt. But boy it seemed just hollow and seemed to have little to say. Its almost like the sole purpose of the movie was to pay some homage to 2001.

Biggest gripes I had:

1. Incredibly, incredibly predictable.
2. Sappy. Its almost insulting that Cooper got back to his daughter problem free to say goodbye face to face.
3. Somewhat baffling internal logic. I'm perplexed at the world and cannot suspend my disbelief that some weird blight is fucking up our food supply but LOL we can go into space and hibernate for years at a time no problem.

The movie was pretty to look at, at least.

#1 is the biggest one for me. One of my favorite things about Nolan is that he can usually keep me guessing at least two or three times in a movie. Not a single thing in Interstellar wasn't by-the-numbers or telegraphed to all hell. Really disappointing.
 
I was expecting some crazy dramatic moment when they totally fucked up and spent a little too long on the first planet. Instead the guy who had been waiting for decades was like. I studied the black hole and they were like, high five bro good job. He didn't seem traumatized at all.

You mean like how they lost 23 years and Cooper watches his son via a tv screen become a man, get married, have a kid, and have that kid die? In that his son tells him also that his father in law is deas And then he finslly says that he's not going to send any messages ever again because he has to move on and let go of his dad. Then after all that he finally gets his first ever message from Murph after all that time now as a grown women (who is now exactly the same age as him) only for her to basically say that as far as she's concerned he's dead and abandonned them and that she'll never send another message ever again either.

All this while we see Cooper completely fall apart emotionally as basically all that happened to him in oh whst 2-3 hours?

You mean that crazy dramatic moment?
 
That's what you had a problem with, that you can't believe that there's something effecting crop growth? Next to hibernation in space it is sci-fi, but the two don't correlate with each other.
Obviously the point in going into space/etc was because of the crops, I don't know why that was so hard to get past. I was like "Okay, crop issues, nitrogen decreasing, got it, done" and moved on.

Sounds like a weak argument on that point at least.

I think the OP is saying that a humanity smart enough to figure out space hibernation and intergalactic travel (albeit aided by the wormhole McGuffin) is a humanity that should also be smart enough to have stopped the blight or figured out an alternative way of feeding its populace.
 
That's what you had a problem with, that you can't believe that there's something effecting crop growth? Next to hibernation in space it is sci-fi, but the two don't correlate with each other.
Obviously the point in going into space/etc was because of the crops, I don't know why that was so hard to get past. I was like "Okay, crop issues, nitrogen decreasing, got it, done" and moved on.

Sounds like a weak argument on that point at least.

Its ridiculous to go from crop issues to "Ok to save ourselves from these crop issues, let's fly humanity to another planet through this warm hole that brings us to this colossal black hole". Just didn't fit. What a fucking epic trek through space because potato famine magically can't be dealt with. We magically can't just synthesize all appropriate proteins and vitamins needed without plant life. Sorry nope, gotta leave the earth, through a worm hole, skirt around a black hole. These crazy crops will be the end of humanity.

You mean like how they lost 23 years and Cooper watches his son via a tv screen become a man, get married, have a kid, and have that kid die? In that his son tells him also that his father in law is deas And then he finslly says that he's not going to send any messages ever again because he has to move on and let go of his dad. Then after all that he finally gets his first ever message from Murph after all that time now as a grown women (who is now exactly the same age as him) only for her to basically say that as far as she's concerned he's dead and abandonned them and that she'll never send another message ever again either.

All this while we see Cooper completely fall apart emotionally as basically all that happened to him in oh whst 2-3 hours?

You mean that crazy dramatic moment?

I'm talking about the dude they left behind. He specifically said he did some stretches in the sleep chamber but otherwise had huge amounts of time by himself. That's fucking traumatic and I expected more. Yes, the videos Cooper watched after was a nice touch, but totally ignored the scientist that clearly went through a huge amount of trauma in the decades he waited.
 
Its ridiculous to go from crop issues to "Ok to save ourselves from these crop issues, let's fly humanity to another planet through this warm hole that brings us to this colossal black hole". Just didn't fit. What a fucking epic trek through space because potato famine magically can't be dealt with. We magically can't just synthesize all appropriate proteins and vitamins needed without plant life. Sorry nope, gotta leave the earth, through a worm hole, skirt around a black hole. These crazy crops will be the end of humanity.

It's not just a lack of food. The blight infects all oxygen-producing plant life on Earth. The planet is becoming inhospitable for aerobic life forms. As was said in the movie, "The last ones to starve will be the first to suffocate". Not to mention that many other science centers of Earth have been destroyed by war, but the US space program seems to have been relatively unscathed, so that's their best option as far as they can tell.
 
I liked it alot, beautiful movie, the feels were great too.

Shame that Thanos died in it

His son, played by Martin Freeman will get his revenge in the sequel.

It's not just a lack of food. The blight infects all oxygen-producing plant life on Earth. The planet is becoming inhospitable for aerobic life forms. As was said in the movie, "The last ones to starve will be the first to suffocate".

I know, just felt unlikely and poorly handled. I understand the premise they were going for.
 
I think the OP is saying that a humanity smart enough to figure out space hibernation and intergalactic travel (albeit aided by the wormhole McGuffin) is a humanity that should also be smart enough to have stopped the blight or figured out an alternative way of feeding its populace.



Its ridiculous to go from crop issues to "Ok to save ourselves from these crop issues, let's fly humanity to another planet through this warm hole that brings us to this colossal black hole". Just didn't fit. What a fucking epic trek through space because potato famine magically can't be dealt with. We magically can't just synthesize all appropriate proteins and vitamins needed without plant life. Sorry nope, gotta leave the earth, through a worm hole, skirt around a black hole. These crazy crops will be the end of humanity.

But why should they be able to solve the crop issue? It's their world, their made up plague and that's it. We can go into space now but can't cure things now so, lets ramp that up to the future with a massive disaster in slow motion.

Also it's not about food, it's about the atmosphere changing to the point that humans won't be able to breath any more.
 
Neither Interstellar nor Gravity were for me.

Both felt like only half the package. Neatly crafted, but otherwise bland. Both tried to be more intelligent than they actually were and took themselves way too seriously without being able to live up to it.
Gravity especially tried to be like 2001 when it was a lot more like Armageddon.
 
I have a daughter so a lot of the emotional stuff hit home. Very hard to watch some of it.

The story/science elements are certainly a bit out there, but not beyond the pale. They made the mistake of detailing some of it too much. Everyones plausibly meter is different when tit comes to this stuff. I make a special effort to ignore inconsistencies with sci fi, otherwise you would not be able to enjoy any of it.

You can bet everyones favourite sci fi film is probably riddled with science holes.

On the hole Interstellar was a hit for me. Good acting, good visuals, interesting story. I don't think it is a classic, but I'd probably watch it again. I don't often watch films again.
 
But why should they be able to solve the crop issue? It's their world, their made up plague and that's it. We can go into space now but can't cure things now so, lets ramp that up to the future with a massive disaster in slow motion.

Also it's not about food, it's about the atmosphere changing to the point that humans won't be able to breath any more.

It's hard to handle a story that has two conflicting MacGuffin's. I'll go with them on humanity being capable of Intergalactic travel because of some contrivance. I'll go with a blight killing off plant life on Earth, making the planet inhospitable. But two MacGuffin's that somewhat conflict demands a really solid story, and Interstellar doesn't have one. Instead it keeps throwing MacGuffin's onto the pile to reach certain story beats. "A physically explorable fifth dimension", "The 'solving' of gravity". It gets ridiculous.
 
It's hard to handle a story that has two conflicting MacGuffin's. I'll go with them on humanity being capable of Intergalactic travel because of some contrivance. I'll go with a blight killing or plant life on Earth, making the planet inhospitable. But two MacGuffin's that somewhat conflict demands a really solid story, and Interstellar doesn't have one. Instead it keeps throwing MacGuffin's onto the pile. "An physically explorable fifth dimension", "The 'solving' of gravity". It gets ridiculous.

"and in the end, love conquered all"
 
I know, just felt unlikely and poorly handled. I understand the premise they were going for.
In the science companion book, their science adviser admits that it is unlikely, but in the realm of possibility. I don't think it was poorly handled, given that it's a plot device that is based in the realm of possibility, that fits well with the theme of mankind's impact on the Earth, and the Dust Bowl allusions.

Both tried to be more intelligent than they actually were and took themselves way too seriously without being able to live up to it.
Intelligent in what way? In the narrative? In the science? Because science-wise, it was all pretty tight. There are some stretches and artistic licenses, but nothing that hard violates any laws of physics completely. A lot of the more fantastical elements are at least based somewhat in speculative theory.

You can bet everyones favourite sci fi film is probably riddled with science holes.
That's what I liked about this movie, though. It's not riddled with science holes. It embraces the science and shows that hard scifi doesn't have to make stuff up to be interesting. I mean, it amazing how their work on visualizing the black hole actually gave them new insights into both astrophysics and computer graphics, allowing them to publish actual papers on both subjects.
 
It's great just for the docking scene alone and that music during said scene...*goosebumps*. The whole damn soundtrack/score is great actually.

docking was a great scene.

But not only did I find it a bit too 'love conquers all', I also got annoyed at basic stuff.

Like the planet with the black hole around it. They know they're going to lose years going down to it, but do it anyway. They're risking the survival of the entire human race - the time they lose, all crops could have failed and people will be dead. Yet the lead is mostly worried about his daughter being old.

Likewise with deciding what second planet to go to after fucking up the first one. Never mind logic, lets go with lurve. Fuck the human race, they can wait.


Also, as amazing as that docking scene was - where did the fucking black hole come from? Did it follow them from the first planet? it was nowhere near Matt Damon's planet, yet there it is, as soon as they leave the atmosphere.


Dumb, beautiful nonsense.
 
Also, as amazing as that docking scene was - where did the fucking black hole come from? Did it follow them from the first planet? it was nowhere near Matt Damon's planet, yet there it is, as soon as they leave the atmosphere.


Dumb, beautiful nonsense.

Elongated orbits dude. Space is not an highway , nor spaceships move like a car....

At least have some sense in the criticism.
 
Elongated orbits dude. Space is not an highway , nor planets move like a car....

At least have some sense in the criticism.

ok, then they could have gone straight to Matt Damon's planet and come back to planet one after the black hole had moved away.


Also, has anyone worked how out long it'd take to transmit complex analysis of a black hole's gravity via morse code?
 
ok, then they could have gone straight to Matt Damon's planet and come back to planet one after the black hole had moved away.

Dude come on...it's Mann's planet the one which has an elongated orbit. So the answer is no they couldn't. The other one was always affected by Gargantua's pull.
 
Interstellar feels like a film that was made to reach a particular contrivance by any means necessary. "A dad, having missed his daughter's life, sees her on her deathbed dying of old age".

"Ok, so how do we reach that story point?"
"I watched a documentary. Time behaves differently in space and stuff. So maybe he goes into space, and he doesn't get old but the daughter gets old, and when he returns they meet at his daughter's deathbed. We could use a wormhole, or something? I think that's a thing."
"Yeah! But ... wait, that makes the father a bit of a douche. He just leaves his family to go space exploring? Hmm, doesn't sound sympathetic"
"Hmm"
"Well, what if Earth has cancer, and the only way to cure it is for this father to go on a mission into space?"
"Whew, I thought we almost blew it there. That totally works ... but, wouldn't the daughter be supportive of her father saving the planet?"
"Shit. Uh, well we could make her young enough where she doesn't really consider that"
"Right, but ... wouldn't the father be completely justified in his going to space?"
"God dammit! What ... what if the mission to go to space was a ruse?"
"That would make the daughter psychic?"
"Uh ... uh ... what if the father tells himself to stay, from the future?"
"How?"
"Fifth dimension"
"Done"
"But if Earth has cancer, and the father urgently has to leave, by the time he gets back wouldn't the daughter have already died? Many decades would have passed, and the elderly probably wouldn't last as long"
"Not if the daughter solves gravity"
"Hmm, I'm interested."
"Well, if the daughter solves gravity then they can leave Earth ... using the information that the father sends from the future!"
"YEEEAAAAAH"
"We're getting good at this. Wouldn't the daughter still be dead, though?"
"Throw her in a hibernation tank as she's about to die"
"We're fucking pros"
"You know it".
 
I sort of liked it. It was a remake of Contact but not as good. In Contact, you could hear what the characters were saying.

More importantly, in Contact they focused on the social aspect and reactions of people on earth, not on the "going to space" part. Interstellar would be a remake of the last 10 minutes of Contact, which is the part people enjoyed the least.

Finally got around to watching this movie Beautiful to look at. Great acting from Matt. But boy it seemed just hollow and seemed to have little to say. Its almost like the sole purpose of the movie was to pay some homage to 2001.

Biggest gripes I had:

1. Incredibly, incredibly predictable.
2. Sappy. Its almost insulting that Cooper got back to his daughter problem free to say goodbye face to face.
3. Somewhat baffling internal logic. I'm perplexed at the world and cannot suspend my disbelief that some weird blight is fucking up our food supply but LOL we can go into space and hibernate for years at a time no problem.

The movie was pretty to look at, at least.

I agree on all points, although I can give a pass on #3. It's true that you would expect humanity to find better solutions for food supply (like trying to grow fungus or artificial food), but then we don't have a great history at large scale environmental projects. And we needed a plot anyway, so eh, why not.
 
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