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[Prelude]

I have mixed feelings about this movie. It wants to be like 2001, but the actors are not credible in their roles. I don't like the volume of the music

Also I like

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSkIwwdT79E

A wasted opportunity in my opinion

 

[DMczaf]

Exactly. This little connection which flew over 99% of the audience's heads ruined the movie. Just rename him Roberts. Dr. Roberts and that scene improves 100x.

Such bad writing.

Scientists never talk things over or talk really. They just know. They are scientists humanities perfection. They shouldn't show any flaws, decay from solitude, or act remotely stupid.

Movie was way too predictable. Only movies that are not predictable are good. This one you could tell what was going to happen in the opening title sequence. Let me guess he is going to explore space and still come back to his daughter. Boring. Who cares it should have been a pure science film with no narrative about father daughter.

The only thing predictable about Interstellar are the threads here about Interstellar.

I enjoy your posts though lol

 

[CharminUltra]

He's the very best of us. Doctor Mann. Get it? Like the word man. He's symbolic of our species. Kipp Thorne will explain it in his book if you see still don't get it, don't worry.

WOW this movie is so clever!!!!!!!!!!!! ZOMG oscar worthy

 

[riotous]

Nolan fans? This implies only people who blindly like Nolan movies liked it. Pretty sure based on its overall reception critically most all liked it.

Unless of course all critics who generally like or love Nolan films are all Nolan fans!?!?

Sure; I just meant big fans of the movie. Wasn't worded well but at the time of Inception almost anyone hyping Nolan's films was hyping Nolan himself. I was specifically referencing people who claimed the movie was one of the greatest ever; in particular that group were big Nolan fans.

My apologies for offending you. (kidding, get a grip lol)

edit: Whoops.. replaced Interstellar with Inception

 

[Concept17]

Finally watched it for the first time a couple days ago.

Quite possibly the best movie I've ever seen. Loved every second of it. Nolan's best movie.

My recent obsession with astronomy/space travel made me love the movie that much more.

 

[Red Liquorice]

It was sappy and predictible - the storyline was like a checklist of movie tropes but I didn't watch it for the story really more the themes and look of it, it was a fun popcorn movie if a bit long.

I did laugh when I saw the black crew member, I thought to myself "He's gon' die!"

 

[Fezan]

Was a good movie. Had some iffy parts like dialogues and whole conflict with son character at end. I think it's one of the best scifi movie of 21st century

 

[marrec]

They knew about the time difference. They have a conversation about it before going to the planet. I don't see why people get so caught up with the amount of time the other scientist spent there (think it was Miller?). The information they had was that the planet had water and the "Okay" signal from the other scientist. They had no way of knowing what the conditions were going to be like when they landed. Also, if I remember correctly, that was the closest planet to them when they went through the wormhole so it made sense for them to check it out given that little bit of information they had.

Dr. Scientist Lady "When we land, we'll only have a few minutes to get the McGuffin because every minute is a million years there!"

Flyboy McCooper "But are we sure this is even the right place?!"

Dr. Scientist Lady "We've been getting the good signal for YEARS!"

Everyone in the audience "...?"

 

[Pavaloo]

Exactly. This little connection which flew over 99% of the audience's heads ruined the movie. Just rename him Roberts. Dr. Roberts and that scene improves 100x.

Such bad writing.

Yeah, but then I guess I just wouldn't understand. I barely caught it as it was in the movie.

 

[andthebeatgoeson]

Can you speak up, OP? The music is too loud. Hunh? What?

 

[JB1981]

Dr. Scientist Lady "When we land, we'll only have a few minutes to get the McGuffin because every minute is a million years there!"

Flyboy McCooper "But are we sure this is even the right place?!"

Dr. Scientist Lady "We've been getting the good signal for YEARS!"

Everyone in the audience "...?"

Yea they discussed afterward that the beacon echoed endlessly due to the tidal gravity. They made a mistake. It happens

 

[Spinluck]

It was ok.

 

[marrec]

Yea they discussed that the beacon echoed endlessly due to the tidal gravity. They made a mistake. It happens

You're right, not all of us can be Dr. Mann, the greatest of us all who might also be a hamfisted personification of everything that is right and wrong about humanity.

I'm surprised his first named wasn't Hume. :-/

The point is they've made it this far on pure preparation and wit alone and yet nobody at any point during any of the meetings looked at the gravitational numbers and said "Guys, relatively she's only been there for like, 10 seconds."

It's completely implausible that EVERYONE MISSED THAT.

 

[JB1981]

You're right, not all of us can be Dr. Mann, the greatest of us all who might also be a hamfisted personification of everything that is right and wrong about humanity.

I'm surprised his first named wasn't Hume. :-/

The point is they've made it this far on pure preparation and wit alone and yet nobody at any point during any of the meetings looked at the gravitational numbers and said "Guys, relatively she's only been there for like, 10 seconds."

It's completely implausible that EVERYONE MISSED THAT.

And you wrote off the movie due to this?
Even if they deduced that she WAS was there for 10 seconds, how would that have changed things? It's lot like they could call her on comms and she could be all like, "yo dog, the waves here are crazy man, don't come !"

 

[thenexus6]

I saw it at IMAX and it was a great experience - visuals, sound were really amazing. Film isn't perfect but I had a good time watching it.

 

[Annubis]

The only thing that could have saved the second half of the movie is if they failed and everyone died.

 

[Solo]

Nolan tried to make a vehicular live action cartoon?

Yes?

 

[thewaffles]

You're right, not all of us can be Dr. Mann, the greatest of us all who might also be a hamfisted personification of everything that is right and wrong about humanity.

I'm surprised his first named wasn't Hume. :-/

The point is they've made it this far on pure preparation and wit alone and yet nobody at any point during any of the meetings looked at the gravitational numbers and said "Guys, relatively she's only been there for like, 10 seconds."

It's completely implausible that EVERYONE MISSED THAT.

They didn't realize how great the time dilation was until they were on their way to Miller's planet. Since they got a positive ping back from Miller, they decide to go down to the planet:

Cooper: "We take the ranger down. We get Miller, we get her samples, we analyze, we debrief. We're in, we're out. We lose a little fuel but we save a whole lot of time.'

They didn't know that she was dead, nor did they know the condition of the planet. All they knew is that they got a positive ping.

 

[marrec]

And you wrote off the movie due to this?

Nah, that was just the most egregious case of idiot balling in the movie. I actually enjoyed it for the most part, the acting was decent and the camera work/CG was pretty. The robots were dope.

But the story just didn't hold together to the end. In some parts Nolan was very "show, don't tell" but then in others he became his normal expositionary self. The characters often don't act like you'd expect given their circumstances and Anne Hathaway's character seems to just be a vehicle for Nolan's explanation of love. Which is shitty because of course the woman scientist is driven by her heart. :-/

I have problems with it, but it wasn't a terrible experience and certainly wasn't Nolans worst. Way better than Inception at least.

They didn't realize how great the time dilation was until they were on their way to Miller's planet. Since they got a positive ping back from Miller, they decide to go down to the planet:

Cooper: "We take the ranger down. We get Miller, we get her samples, we analyze, we debrief. We're in, we're out. We lose a little fuel but we save a whole lot of time.'

They didn't know that she was dead, nor did they know the condition of the planet. All they knew is that they got a positive ping.

They knew how close the planet was to the black hole and they knew exactly how much time dilation they would experience well before going to the surface and they also knew that there would be a certain amount of time dilation before they even sent the mission out.

 

[JB1981]

Yes?

Batman Begins is a post apocalyptic truck chase through the desert?

 

[Orbis Tabula]

The one thing that bugs me the most is such a nitpick, too. I think a lot of people have things like this though. Little cliches or "scientific liberties" that shows and movies take that set them off. For example, I know some people can't stand it when someone uses a CSI Enhance in a movie to solve something. Drives some people up the wall. Because it just doesn't really work like that. So people will write off things that use the CSI Enhance cliche, even if that's the only thing they don't like.

Well, I hate the "We don't know what happens in a black hole, so literally anything could be happening there" cliche. Sure, I'll allow that we don't know what happens in a black hole. We can't actually know or observe what's happening past the event horizon. What we do know, however, is what happens when you approach a black hole. You get spaghettified.

But like I said, it's a stupid nitpick. And I certainly don't write off the whole movie for it.

 

[JB1981]

Nah, that was just the most egregious case of idiot balling in the movie. I actually enjoyed it for the most part, the acting was decent and the camera work/CG was pretty. The robots were dope.

But the story just didn't hold together to the end. In some parts Nolan was very "show, don't tell" but then in others he became his normal expositionary self. The characters often don't act like you'd expect given their circumstances and Anne Hathaway's character seems to just be a vehicle for Nolan's explanation of love. Which is shitty because of course the woman scientist is driven by her heart. :-/

I have problems with it, but it wasn't a terrible experience and certainly wasn't Nolans worst. Way better than Inception at least.



They knew how close the planet was to the black hole and they knew exactly how much time dilation they would experience well before going to the surface and they also knew that there would be a certain amount of time dilation before they even sent the mission out.

Yea I still think you fail to grasp what was going on in that scene.

 

[Solo]

Batman Begins is a post apocalyptic truck chase through the desert?

Slide them goalposts a little more. Both Nolan and Miller are making big budget action blockbusters. Miller's latest is directed, written, edited, shot, and scored leagues ahead of Mr. "Holds the keys to WB".

 

[marrec]

Yea I still think you fail to grasp what was going on in that scene.

How so? One of the reasons they decided to go there first was because of the consistent "good" pings they got but they didn't take into account the time dilation. It was a moment of plot driven stupidity.

 

[JB1981]

Slide them goalposts a little more. Both Nolan and Miller are making big budget action blockbusters. Miller's latest is directed, written, edited, shot, and scored leagues ahead of Mr. "Holds the Keys to WB".

Lol. Miller made a good action movie so now Nolan is shit. I'd watch Batman Begins and the Dark Knight over Mad Max any day of the week. The movie wasn't even all that. Great action and nice design but not much else.

And don't even attempt to compare their filmography. Fucking embarrassing for Miller

 

[True Savior]

How so? One of the reasons they decided to go there first was because of the consistent "good" pings they got but they didn't take into account the time dilation. It was a moment of plot driven stupidity.

No.

Thumbs up is simply a signal to assess a possible hospitable system. Nothing more. They explicitly refer they dont have a lot of data from her after going through the wormhole. They evaluate the planet, the minimum data , the resources that show promise and act upon it. The waves fuck everything .

 

[Solo]

Lol. Miller made a good action movie so now Nolan is shit. I'd watch Batman Begins and the Dark Knight over Mad Max any day of the week. The movie wasn't even all that. Great action and nice design but not much else.

I never said Nolan was "shit". I said that the same major issues have been prevalent in all his films since WB gave him carte blanche. As for my Miller inclusion, that was simply to show that Nolan could learn a lot from someone like Miller. A fucking LOT. Forget even how to frame and cut action, I'm talking storytelling 101 here.

 

[marrec]

Lol. Miller made a good action movie so now Nolan is shit. I'd watch Batman Begins and the Dark Knight over Mad Max any day of the week. The movie wasn't even all that. Great action and nice design but not much else.

People like different ways of telling a story. Nolan's storytelling is very explicit and expository. The only movie of his that doesn't lay out the themes and plot in a nice neat package is Memento and only because it does it backwards.

That's fine if you dig that style.

I consider Fury Road's storytelling and setting to be in a completely different category from Nolan, almost impossible to compare directly. I much prefer the story and characters from Fury Road. There is much more than great action and design there, but it may not have been explicit enough for you to enjoy, that's fine.

No.

Thumbs up is simply a signal to assess a possible hospitable system. Nothing more. They explicitly refer they dont have a lot of data from her after going through the wormhole. They evaluate the planet, the minimum data , the resources that show promise and act upon it. The waves fuck everything .

If I remember correctly they were getting echos of the "good" ping because of the gravitational pull of the blackhole or something, which made them think that she had been alive for years. It's been a bit since I watched the movie however.

 

[True Savior]

Solo , why are you bitter over his liberty ? It's a strange grudge. More director's should be allowed that. From what i've read about him , WB never really opposed him , so the distinction you are creating is a little bit fictitious.

 

[effzee]

Slide them goalposts a little more. Both Nolan and Miller are making big budget action blockbusters. Miller's latest is directed, written, edited, shot, and scored leagues ahead of Mr. "Holds the keys to WB".

His latest against Nolan's latest? Mad Max V Interstellar?

 

[JB1981]

People like different ways of telling a story. Nolan's storytelling is very explicit and expository. The only movie of his that doesn't lay out the themes and plot in a nice neat package is Memento and only because it does it backwards.

That's fine if you dig that style.

I consider Fury Road's storytelling and setting to be in a completely different category from Nolan, almost impossible to compare directly. I much prefer the story and characters from Fury Road. There is much more than great action and design there, but it may not have been explicit enough for you to enjoy, that's fine.

Explicit? What subtle depth did you get from the movie? It's a high-octane cartoon. Nothing more. Nothing in the movie, other than the visuals and the adrenaline, stuck with me. The hyperbole over this movie is off the charts.

Fuck, avatar had better world building and that movie gets shit on.

 

[Jobbs]

I enjoyed watching it, but wouldn't call it a good movie. It's comically flawed in numerous ways, IMO.

Above all, I never really got passed how easily and quickly they went from "let's explore this place together, daughter" to "I'm leaving forever, maybe we'll see eachother when you're middle aged". I could never get past that. It didn't seem plausible. Either the father is a psychopath or it's just not genuine.

 

[effzee]

Solo , why are you bitter over his liberty ? It's a strange grudge. More director's should be allowed that. From what i've read about him , WB never really opposed him , so the distinction you are creating is a little bit fictitious.

WB rewrote all his movies and painted the sets a new color until TDK.

 

[marrec]

Explicit? What subtle depth did you get from the movie? It's a high-octane cartoon. Nothing more. Nothing in the movie, other than the visuals and the adrenaline, stuck with me. The hyperbole over this movie is off the charts.

Everything about how Millar creates that world is subtle. The big, amazingly shot action set pieces may distract you from that but it's still there and, in my opinion, way better than any comparable blockbuster of the last 15 years.

I enjoyed watching it, but wouldn't call it a good movie. It's comically flawed in numerous ways, IMO.

Above all, I never really got passed how easily and quickly they went from "let's explore this place together, daughter" to "I'm leaving forever, maybe we'll see eachother when you're middle aged". I could never get past that. It didn't seem plausible. Either the father is a psychopath or it's just not genuine.

They try to make you feel okay about Cooper leaving with the conversation he has with his Dad-in-Law but it doesn't really work and he seems like a shit father when he takes off.

 

[effzee]

I enjoyed watching it, but wouldn't call it a good movie. It's comically flawed in numerous ways, IMO.

Above all, I never really got passed how easily and quickly they went from "let's explore this place together, daughter" to "I'm leaving forever, maybe we'll see eachother when you're middle aged". I could never get past that. It didn't seem plausible. Either the father is a psychopath or it's just not genuine.

I could have used more time on Earth too but a large portion of people were going to be even more pissed that they spent any time on Earth. Apparently all people wanted was a science documentary with no narrative or emotion. Or maybe they did who knows. After all one of the biggest complaints about Nolan films is that they are too cold and emotionless. Now this one is too sappy.

Pretty sure people on gaf don't even really watch movies or enjoy them. They go simply to find any and all faults. "I wonder how Nolan this movie is going to be?!"

 

[True Savior]

If I remember correctly they were getting echos of the "good" ping because of the gravitational pull of the blackhole or something, which made them think that she had been alive for years. It's been a bit since I watched the movie however.

Movie quotes

Their mission was to assess their world,and if it showed promise, send a signal , bed down for the long nap,and wait to be rescued.

Miller hasn’t sent much,but what she has sent is promising-water,organics...

They explicitly refer they dont have a lot of data from her after going through the wormhole. After being there the water-environment made it seem like a viable option.They decide based on earlier assumptions . Only 3 planets to visit , not a lot of fuel and a viable environment.

 

[Pavaloo]

Everything about how Millar creates that world is subtle. The big, amazingly shot action set pieces may distract you from that but it's still there and, in my opinion, way better than any comparable blockbuster of the last 15 years.

Just so refreshing to see good use of "show don't tell" in a MOVIE

 

[marrec]

Movie quotes

They explicitly refer they dont have a lot of data from her after going through the wormhole. After being there the water-environment made it seem like a viable option.They decide based on earlier assumptions . Only 3 planets to visit , not a lot of fuel and a viable environment.

You're missing the quotes from after they get back when Anne Hathaway is lamenting their stupidity and explains the echoed signal. Again, I'm probably remembering it wrong, I've only seen the movie once.

 

[Solo]

Solo , why are you bitter over his liberty ? It's a strange grudge. More director's should be allowed that. From what i've read about him , WB never really opposed him , so the distinction you are creating is a little bit fictitious.

Because its making him into George Lucas 2.0. Just because Nolan can write and chooses to shoot his action, doesn't mean he should necessarily do those things. Someone else's screenplay and a true 2nd unit would work wonders for Nolan, I honestly believe. But as it stands now, he's made WB so much money that no one is going to step in and say "hey Chris, your writing is far too on the nose and kinda shit". Hence the Lucas comparison - film works best as a collaborative medium, not with one unopposed person making all creative decisions surrounded by yes men.

Studio support and creative freedom is fantastic. I fully support that. Just saying that there also should some checks and balances along the way. Inception for example could have had one rewrite of Nolan's original script by a better writer, and had its action scenes shot by a seasoned 2nd unit director, and been a much better film for it.

 

[True Savior]

You're missing the quotes from after they get back when Anne Hathaway is lamenting their stupidity and explains the echoed signal. Again, I'm probably remembering it wrong, I've only seen the movie once.

She explains the continuous signal. The same signal. The continuous signal wasn't the reason for their actions.

Because its making him into George Lucas 2.0. Just because Nolan can write and chooses to shoot his action, doesn't mean he should necessarily do those things. Someone else's screenplay and a true 2nd unit would work wonders for Nolan, I honestly believe. But as it stands now, he's made WB so much money that no one is going to step in and say "hey Chris, your writing is far too on the nose and kinda shit". Hence the Lucas comparison - film works best as a collaborative medium, not with one unopposed person making all creative decisions surrounded by yes men.

Studio support and creative freedom is fantastic. I fully support that. Just saying that there also should some checks and balances along the way. Inception for example could have had one rewrite of Nolan's original script by a better writer, and had its action scenes shot by a seasoned 2nd unit director, and been a much better film for it.

I disagree with your assessment of his qualities (and inabilities) but I read similar suggestions to yours , but who are these magnificent writers who are making great blockbusters that Nolan is missing collaboration ?

 

[PlayALLtheGames]

Yep. It sucks

No, no it doesn't.

 

[marrec]

She explains the continuous signal. The same signal. The continuous signal wasn't the reason for their actions.

It was absolutely part of their decision to go to that planet. The continuous "good" signal without any other context should have made them pause, but they were like "it's probably nothing LETS GOOOOO!"

The SO and I both called the disastrous reception due to gravitational time dilation and we were just yelling at the screen the whole time, it really pulled me out of the characters and story.

Again though, not a terrible movie, just a poorly plotted one. Which is what I expect from Nolan at this point.

 

[thewaffles]

You're missing the quotes from after they get back when Anne Hathaway is lamenting their stupidity and explains the echoed signal. Again, I'm probably remembering it wrong, I've only seen the movie once.

I took that as more of an emotional realization for her that Miller had died just a few minutes before. They didn't realize that she was dead until just before they landed on the planet. That's a pretty heavy realization to have in my opinion.

 

[riotous]

Either the father is a psychopath or it's just not genuine.

Or he was aware that life on earth was facing impending doom; and was given a chance to do something about it..

How is that psychopathic? He previously was an astronaut, so you know he has "willing to risk life and limb to further humanity" as a character trait.

 

[True Savior]

It was absolutely part of their decision to go to that planet. The continuous "good" signal without any other context should have made them pause, but they were like "it's probably nothing LETS GOOOOO!"

It's the same signal. The same signal. They address the repetition. They act upon its individual content. They explicitly refer. It isn't much but has potential. That's it.

She could have been there 30 years collecting data that was irrelevant. Because they would never get it and because she had died after the initial status.

 

[super-heated plasma]

It perplexes me that he loves his daughter so much but gives two shits about his son. When he gets back he doesn't even try to see him or his grandkids. It seems he literally doesn't care. Also as he's leaving for space for decades and he is heartbroken saying goodbye to his daughter, but all he tells his son is to take care of the truck or some shit. lol.

 

[Mengy]

I saw Interstellar twice in the theater, I've watched my blu ray twice as well, and while I actually agree with pretty much all of the complaints and criticisms people have against the movie, I still love the ever loving shit out of it.

Interstellar isn't a perfect movie, but it's ambitious, and relevant to real life problems today, and IMHO even though the little parts have lots of problems the overall package of them all together is something worth watching and thinking about. It's good to get a modern science fiction movie that isn't full of aliens and laser guns and murderous robots and explosions, but instead contains actual science and theory. It's refreshing to me, and maybe that's why I like the movie so much.

I'd rather have twenty more Interstellar's than any more Transformers or Armageddons or Jupiter Ascendings.

 

[Jobbs]

Or he was aware that life on earth was facing impending doom; and was given a chance to do something about it..

How is that psychopathic? He previously was an astronaut, so you know he has "willing to risk life and limb to further humanity" as a character trait.

You clearly have never been a parent or had children in your life/family you care for. I just didn't find it plausible how easily he could make that decision, even if the fate of the world might (emphasis on might, because it turned out to all be too crazy to be true anyway) hang in the balance.

Think about the scene where his daughter is distraught and he's leaving forever at that moment. If that were me, you'd have to drag me away. It was made even funnier how his son got nothing more than a "cya".

Then at the very end of the movie, he FINALLY meets his daughter again, and it's "hi.. okay, I'm outtie, gotta go find this chick". The movie seems to have been written by robots.

 

[marrec]

You clearly have never been a parent or had children in your life/family you care for. I just didn't find it plausible how easily he could make that decision, even if the fate of the world might (emphasis on might, because it turned out to all be too crazy to be true anyway) hang in the balance.

Think about the scene where his daughter is distraught and he's leaving forever at that moment. If that were me, you'd have to drag me away. It was made even funnier how his son got nothing more than a "cya".

Then at the very end of the movie, he FINALLY meets his daughter again, and it's "hi.. okay, I'm outtie, gotta go find this chick". The movie seems to have been written by robots.

The movie has all the empathy of a robot, that's for sure. Nolan seems to have read about normal human emotions and parental relationships from a few different books and then tried to emulate them rather than writing from any kind of understanding.

That specific scene stood out to me as well, he's all "Don't make me leave like this Murph!" Then he just gives up and leaves anyway after all of 2 minutes trying to get her to talk to him. Great parenting, no wonder his son is more emotionally attached to the farm than to anything else.

 

[cyberheater]

I really enjoyed it and have watched it several times. One of the best sci-fi movies I've seen in years.
As far as I'm concerned. It's top draw cinematic entertainment.