Could be hard to see through the tears.
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Could be hard to see through the tears.
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cleveridea
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Some of the science doesnt make sense (tidal forces on water planet for example)
But the end result is amazing
I thought the black hole imagery was wrong, then found out they actually ran simulation for the movie to see what the real thing would look like (computer simulation)
But the end result is amazing
I thought the black hole imagery was wrong, then found out they actually ran simulation for the movie to see what the real thing would look like (computer simulation)
They did cherry pick the black hole visuals a little bit (artistic liberties, etc.), but it's pretty amazing that the visual effects artists and the scientist co-authored a scientific paper based on the computer generated visualization of the black hole.
Crazy that the VFX budget of a motion picture is so much larger than the scientists budget that they can afford to actually do ground break scientific research.
Battersea Power Station
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Is that true?
cleveridea
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They made what made sense for the movie - you couldnt have a relatively calm water planet (where the water is still, apart from the tidal wave) that close to a black hole.
the gravitational forces required for the extreme time dilation in the movie would be greater than near the surface of a neutron star, which has gravity hundreds of billions of times greater than earth (one was measured at 300 billion times the gravity of earth).
This is a fun description of travelling to the surface of a neutron star.
So the planet would be under even stronger gravitational force than that from the black hole (for the time dilation represented in the movie which exceeds that from a neutron star).
I wouldnt change the movie though - the underlying concepts are sound, and movies are for entertainment.
Battersea Power Station
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What do you mean by "that close to a black hole?" Was it ever stated how close the planet is, or what the estimated "mass" of the black hole is?
This is what I got. It's actually what I was hoping to get, that or a nice shot of the endurance or black hole. I was pretty surprised and happy with it. The odds of me getting a blurry shot of something random seemed far more likely lol.
Shared mine in the other thread but I really like it so sharing it here as well
a Master Ninja
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Best one I've seen.Shared mine in the other thread but I really like it so sharing it here as well
cleveridea
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Close enough to cause the extreme time dilation effect - more so than neutron stars - (which have less mass than black holes) which themselves have 200+ billion times the gravity of earth.
They wanted this in the movie so that hours for the travellers were decades for the people back on earth.
So the concept is real (close to a black hole causing extreme time dilation) but for that amount of extreme time dilation youd have to be so close that you wouldnt have anything like a regular planet or regular people. Like the link I posted before "just" neutral star degree of gravity means the difference in gravity between your head and your feet is approximately sixty million g's.
Making it "realistic" for a movie is a waste of time since its just entertainment - there are technically ways to make it possible (eg using a Kerr Black Hole) that would make the movie confusing for no benefit since its entertainment
Anyway I loved this movie, rented from netflix then bought it immediately to keep because loved it so much
Battersea Power Station
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Hmm, but you still don't know how close you have to be, right? I mean, black holes can theoretically come in all sizes, from the microscopic to the supermassive. The amount of time dilation due to their gravity depends on both their mass and your distance from them, so you can be very close if it's a smaller one or very far if it's a larger one and experience the same time dilation, right?
CraigerGamer
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So, TARS gets dropped into the black hole. Cooper is dropped a minute later. When, eventually, they both reach the event horizon, wouldn't that minute between drops have put them an infitesimal amount of years apart?
Physics suggests that a person watching a body hit the event horizon never actually sees them cross over, it looks like they fall forever never making it across. So, I imagine the minute that separates the two drops makes time slow expidentually for each in their own time/space, thus, they would never have a chance to meet up because they will never exist in the same time/space again.
Physics suggests that a person watching a body hit the event horizon never actually sees them cross over, it looks like they fall forever never making it across. So, I imagine the minute that separates the two drops makes time slow expidentually for each in their own time/space, thus, they would never have a chance to meet up because they will never exist in the same time/space again.
Still, amazing movie. Glad I finally saw it.
True Savior
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No.
Inside Gargantua there is two types of singularities. Outflying singularities made from stuff fallen in the black hole before he fell and and inflying one made of stuff that falls after he falls. The tidal forces are different. The outflying one is what Romily calls the "gentle one". In the movie he falls quick enough to be hit by the outflying singularity and be saved within the Tesseract (which lays at the edge of the singularity and it keeps carrying him through the bulk) Still if Brand looked at him she would have seen him slowing down. But because he's hit by the outflying singularity there is not a lot of time difference.
Finally got round to watching this last night.
Bit of an odd film, but despite all the sci-fi, effects etc etc my biggest takeaway from it was the love between a father and his daughter.
Father nearly gave up trying to save humanity because he wanted to go home to his daughter.
Daughter ended up saving humanity due to her love for her dad (she took the watch because he'd given it to her).
Must admit, I went upstairs to give me 3 daughters a kiss after I'd watched it. Thought that side of things was done very well.
Bit of an odd film, but despite all the sci-fi, effects etc etc my biggest takeaway from it was the love between a father and his daughter.
Father nearly gave up trying to save humanity because he wanted to go home to his daughter.
Daughter ended up saving humanity due to her love for her dad (she took the watch because he'd given it to her).
Must admit, I went upstairs to give me 3 daughters a kiss after I'd watched it. Thought that side of things was done very well.
SCULLIBUNDO
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Hey! My taste in movies is also based on how much I want people to like me at parties!
We should hang out and watch Fast and Furious.
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