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Interview with "TheKing" - XBL guy with over 20K points

Man! The hate for this kid here is sorta sad.

The only thing I'd love to know is: Between classes, studying, and having a job (how else is he going to afford his gaming hobby?), where does he find the time to play all of these games to completion? I really wish they would've asked that, instead of the smack-worthy "What will people find you doing most often on your 360?"
 
mr jones said:
The only thing I'd love to know is: Between classes, studying, and having a job (how else is he going to afford his gaming hobby?), where does he find the time to play all of these games to completion?
Easy, he skips most classes, doesnt study and has rich parents (not to mention that he is single).

Plenty of people like that in my dorm (minus maybe the rich parents)
 
jetjevons said:
Also, as for being arrogant did you LOOK at the guy's achievements? He is a gaming master fucking ninja. Has every right to be a little boastful. That's the point of achievements.

Exactly. The point of achievements is for people who are fixated on the size of their e-penis to do a little (or in this case, a lot) of dick-waving. It's why the whole concept has no appeal for me.

Swat said:
I think it's the non-technical advancements like this one that will really start to change the way games are played for the better.

If by 'for the better' you mean 'in a way that encourages gamers to focus more on the size of their e-penis than the gaming experience, so that they'll jump through hoops on even the most mediocre games to prove their 'superiority' to others,' then I'd agree. Personally, I think there's already too much ultracompetitive bullshit and stupid trash-talk in daily life as it is (look no further than sports nowadays for examples), so excuse me if I'm not hyped about some system designed to encourage that mentality further amongst gamers.
 
I can't believe no one posted this yet...

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What a pointless interview and I don't see why it's worth posting. Then again I think the whole achievement concept is silly, so what do I know.

He'll have to keep waiting for his ELDER SCROLLS VI for a while.
 
Yeah I'll be interested to see how many of you shit on him once he bags velocity gurl!
 
I think that achievements are a cool incentive to have but for someone like myself who is a casual gamer some of them aren't designed with me in mind. Achievements that I'll eventually accumulate over time are fine with me, stuff like "1000 head shots". I'll get 1k headshots in about 6 months while others may go for it in one night. lol. I think some of the achievments that irritate/dissapoint me are the ones that command 6 hours worth of trial and error, I simply dont have time for that anymore.

Going out with a girl > Unlocking "completed single player dark agent"

Congratulations to "King", what he did was cool and all but its still partly sad/pathetic too. :lol :lol
 
Why is everyone bitching on this guy ? If he wants to put all his time and effort into these achievements then by all means let him do so. Why the fuck would YOU care if he doesn't have much of a social life or not. As long as the guy's happy with what he's doing he can do whatever the hell he wants to for all I care.
Most here are just plain jealous I guess.
 
Vitten said:
Why is everyone bitching on this guy ? If he wants to put all his time and effort into these achievements then by all means let him do so. Why the fuck would YOU care if he doesn't have much of a social life or not. As long as the guy's happy with what he's doing he can do whatever the hell he wants to for all I care.
Most here are just plain jealous I guess.

It's all fine, but if you agree to do a stupid interview you can only blame yourself
 
Vitten said:
Why is everyone bitching on this guy ? If he wants to put all his time and effort into these achievements then by all means let him do so. Why the fuck would YOU care if he doesn't have much of a social life or not. As long as the guy's happy with what he's doing he can do whatever the hell he wants to for all I care.
Most here are just plain jealous I guess.

So whats the point of a forum? I could have sworn it was here to voice our opinions. Everyone who isn't impressed by his feat isn't hating on the guy. I gave the cat his props but its still moderately lame/funny in my book especially since he's kind of cocky about it. :lol
 
Swat said:
If that's what floats his boat, who cares? It's competition right? He's competing, which is essentially a big part of gaming in general. He might be competing for the wrong reasons to most of us, but he's WINNING. Some people don't like that he's #1, most don't care ;)

The real benefit to the Gamerscore is seeing certain individual achievements. Everyone knows which games are a joke to get points in, and which ones really are a badge of honor when you accomplish them. When I look through my friends list I don't care about the overall score, but I'm genuinley impressed when I see a buddy has completed COD2 on Veteran.

And for that matter I wouldn't have even touched COD2 on Veteran if it hadn't been for the points, it would have been shelved or traded, and I would have missed out on THE way COD2 should have been played. It's an entirely different game.

I think it's the non-technical advancements like this one that will really start to change the way games are played for the better.

/thread
 
Juice said:
What a fucking toolbag.

Not only does he come off as arrogant, but it's almost as if he feels like there's some "underground community of 1337 gam0rz" that are going to bow down to his skills because of how many points he could rack up in an arbitrary point system by playing what is in its majority unfun games.

If anything, this is an argument against achievements, because now that I see what it's "pinnacle" is, it's not only unattainable but undesirable. I want to be nothing like this guy, but at the same time, to fight to get achievements and not be striving to somehow "be on top" makes the entire achievements things pointless.

So he was right in a way, achievements are Microsoft's best idea ever <i>for the 1% elitist/completist that spends all their money and time on games</i> like him. I hope Microsoft's smart enough not to flaunt addicts like this, because it's just going to take an otherwise interesting feature and expose it as the (apparently) alienating and futile hamster wheel this interview seems to indicate it as being.

//Wishes he hadn't just read that, as he was previously interested in racking up achievements when his free 360 comes in the mail next week.



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Guy doesn't really come off as a jerk, just a complete idiot.

This is the pinacle of fanboyism. You have a guy buying(probably) games he doesn't like just so he can get more 'points'. The Gamerscore idea is alright on paper, but really I just think it is just as ami says.

I mean achievements are nice, but why give arbitrary points for them?
 
VanMardigan said:
My gamerscore is around 385. Should I quit gaming entirely and find a new hobby?


'Single-player games aren't just about having fun anymore. They're all about competition and community. With a gamerscore of 385, you don't deserve to be a part of our community. Hell, you don't even deserve to be a part of that trailer park for broke-ass losers on the outskirts of the community! This is XBL, and we've got no time for people who don't want to step it up and compete. Now get out of my way, fool. I've got points to earn.'

*spokesman punches cameraman in the face - viewpoint shakes wildly as he falls to the ground, followed by the image of a boot coming down on the lens, a loud -crunch!- then static*

-this message sponsored by Swat, BenjaminBirdie, and the Council to Change Games for the Better. :p
 
If it's fun for this guy to rack up achievements, where is the problem?
The achievement are mostly useless you know beside offering you a new type of personal challenge.
 
BudokaiMR2 said:
Guy doesn't really come off as a jerk, just a complete idiot.

This is the pinacle of fanboyism. You have a guy buying(probably) games he doesn't like just so he can get more 'points'. The Gamerscore idea is alright on paper, but really I just think it is just as ami says.

I mean achievements are nice, but why give arbitrary points for them?

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You people are fucking ridiculous. He doesn't come off as arrogant or as a fanboy in that interview at all and the guy has collected some achievements that I'm sure 99% of the people around here in this supposed gaming forum wouldn't be able to come close to.

I can understand wanting to collect these things just like I can understand people wanting to get a highscore in an arcade game or collecting every freakin' Pokemon they can get their hands on. It's a goal and it's addicting. Achievements have given me incentive in some games to try for that elusive badge, not for "dick waving rights" like some people think but rather just for the challenge. All most all of the people I've ran into are in the same boat.

If you can't understand it then just stick to the sales threads.
 
Tellaerin said:
'Single-player games aren't just about having fun anymore. They're all about competition and community. With a gamerscore of 385, you don't deserve to be a part of our community. Hell, you don't even deserve to be a part of that trailer park for broke-ass losers on the outskirts of the community! This is XBL, and we've got no time for people who don't want to step it up and compete. Now get out of my way, fool. I've got points to earn.'

*spokesman punches cameraman in the face - viewpoint shakes wildly as he falls to the ground, followed by the image of a boot coming down on the lens, a loud -crunch!- then static*

-this message sponsored by Swat, BenjaminBirdie, and the Council to Change Games for the Better. :p

:lol :lol :lol

Yes, that's exactly what I meant. I have no interest in that kind of competition, Tell. Your reductive and simplistic attempt to comprehend the point of the post I dubbed a "Thread-Ender" has failed. The point of Achievements is not for anyone else's sake but your own. As was stated before (and like on eight zillion other threads about, basically, the same fucking thing) the main benefit of them is to promote access to facets of a game that might otherwise go unplayed. I could care less what other people's gamerscore is. I want the satisfaction of hitting 100% on my GamerTag. When it comes to other people's scores, I just use it as a snapshot of what they're up to. If someone has 350 or whatever, I can see that they're like 1/3rd of the way through Condemned, and I can think to myself, "Oh, that must put them somewhere around the Department Store. Okay. Gee, that was a fun level."
 
catfish said:
Yeah I'll be interested to see how many of you shit on him once he bags velocity gurl!


Goddamn, did I laugh hard at that. :lol



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I won't bag on this guy, I can remember being a 9 yr old kid playing and "beating" every NES game I could get my hands on. I then kept a list of all the games I beat. Even all those shitty NES games I would play through as long as it had a proper ending to it. So, I kind of understand where his addiction comes from. Although at 20 years old, it's a shame he is wasting the best years of his life.


Oh yea, there are 1000's of people who have invested more time into MMORPG's. This guy is a piker compared to some of them.
 
Wario64 said:
Sounds like work. Who plays games that aren't fun?

Losers with no life?

Oh, btw, I finished this thread just now - and I am by no means hating on the guy. I just think it's pretty pathetic to waste your time playing games you don't care for just to get points in cyberspace for everyone else to see. That seems pretty lame and a huge waste of time - but if he gets off on doing it - no skin off my nose. He can play and have all the gamer points in the world for all I care.
 
Dr_Cogent said:
Err, what?

Not sure what you are getting at Juice.

I was just poking fun at the fact that a great number of GAFfers talk about gaming but never actually play them. As disgusting it is to spend so much time playing unfun games, I can't help but think that our spending so much time talking about how some guy is playing unfun games (in lieu of our playing any games at all) isn't much higher on the totem pole.
 
Juice said:
I was just poking fun at the fact that a great number of GAFfers talk about gaming but never actually play them. As disgusting it is to spend so much time playing unfun games, I can't help but think that our spending so much time talking about how some guy is playing unfun games (in lieu of our playing any games at all) isn't much higher on the totem pole.

Wow. If there are really people like that on here that just talk about gaming and not game, that's lame. I love to game, and the main time I post on here is when I am at work while something is compiling, or a script is running, or yadda yadda yadda (sometimes I shouldn't be posting here though ;)

GAF is filler for me for the most part.

Nobody should "hate" on this guy - but I'm not sure everyone here is necessarily doing that. I think a lot of us just think it's lame. I'm sure we all do things in this life that others think is lame though. Hell, I know a lot of people who think gaming is a waste of time.

To each his own I suppose.
 
BenjaminBirdie said:
:lol :lol :lol

Yes, that's exactly what I meant. I have no interest in that kind of competition, Tell. Your reductive and simplistic attempt to comprehend the point of the post I dubbed a "Thread-Ender" has failed. The point of Achievements is not for anyone else's sake but your own. As was stated before (and like on eight zillion other threads about, basically, the same fucking thing) the main benefit of them is to promote access to facets of a game that might otherwise go unplayed. I could care less what other people's gamerscore is. I want the satisfaction of hitting 100% on my GamerTag. When it comes to other people's scores, I just use it as a snapshot of what they're up to. If someone has 350 or whatever, I can see that they're like 1/3rd of the way through Condemned, and I can think to myself, "Oh, that must put them somewhere around the Department Store. Okay. Gee, that was a fun level."

Maybe in your world anyone who doesn't agree with you 'just doesn't understand', but most people I know left that sort of nonsense behind them in their teens, if not earlier. I had no difficulty comprehending the points Swat made (and you seconded); I merely feel that the two of you are full of shit.

Despite your efforts to spin things to the contrary, I think it's obvious to practically everyone here that there's a distinct competitive slant to the whole gamerscore and Achievements system, particularly given the big emphasis MS has been placing on being able to see what other people are playing, their gamerscores, and their Achievements. Do you honestly mean to tell me that you believe they didn't deliberately design this system to promote comparisons (and one-upsmanship) between players?

Like it or not, the system's set up to foster competition. Personally, I think it's a pretty lame system. I'm not particularly interested in comparing my e-penis to others', and if I want arbitrary challenges that add longevity to a game, developers would better serve my interest by having them unlock real content in the game, not a handful of points on some online scorecard. But go ahead, Ben. Keep right on telling yourself that you and Swat are operating on some rarefied intellectual plane that I can't begin to approach and that any disagreement on my part is just because I can't comprehend. Whatever gets you through the night, man.
 
Tellaerin said:
Maybe in your world anyone who doesn't agree with you 'just doesn't understand', but most people I know left that sort of nonsense behind them in their teens, if not earlier. I had no difficulty comprehending the points Swat made (and you seconded); I merely feel that the two of you are full of shit.

Despite your efforts to spin things to the contrary, I think it's obvious to practically everyone here that there's a distinct competitive slant to the whole gamerscore and Achievements system, particularly given the big emphasis MS has been placing on being able to see what other people are playing, their gamerscores, and their Achievements. Do you honestly mean to tell me that you believe they didn't deliberately design this system to promote comparisons (and one-upsmanship) between players?

Like it or not, the system's set up to foster competition. Personally, I think it's a pretty lame system. I'm not particularly interested in comparing my e-penis to others', and if I want arbitrary challenges that add longevity to a game, developers would better serve my interest by having them unlock real content in the game, not a handful of points on some online scorecard. But go ahead, Ben. Keep right on telling yourself that you and Swat are operating on some rarefied intellectual plane that I can't begin to approach and that any disagreement on my part is just because I can't comprehend. Whatever gets you through the night, man.


What's wrong with competition? If you don't want to compete, then don't. I could care less either way. I compete in things I want to, and don't compete in things I have no need for. When I do compete, it's simply for the fun of it. My "e-penis" or my self-esteem doesn't even come close to being in the same vicinity of how my gamer score stacks up.

Personally, I wouldn't use it as a measure of anything meaningful; but if it gives this lad some sense of accomplishment then good for him. As long as he has it in perspective, then I see no harm/no foul.

JMO
 
Juice said:
What a fucking toolbag.

Not only does he come off as arrogant, but it's almost as if he feels like there's some "underground community of 1337 gam0rz" that are going to bow down to his skills because of how many points he could rack up in an arbitrary point system by playing what is in its majority unfun games.

If anything, this is an argument against achievements, because now that I see what it's "pinnacle" is, it's not only unattainable but undesirable. I want to be nothing like this guy, but at the same time, to fight to get achievements and not be striving to somehow "be on top" makes the entire achievements things pointless.

So he was right in a way, achievements are Microsoft's best idea ever <i>for the 1% elitist/completist that spends all their money and time on games</i> like him. I hope Microsoft's smart enough not to flaunt addicts like this, because it's just going to take an otherwise interesting feature and expose it as the (apparently) alienating and futile hamster wheel this interview seems to indicate it as being.

//Wishes he hadn't just read that, as he was previously interested in racking up achievements when his free 360 comes in the mail next week.

JEALOUS^^^
 
i'd probably have a score higher than 2030 if I fucking played anything on my 360 right now. God, how does my PS2 manage to steal my attention away every fucking month?
 
snatches said:
JEALOUS^^^

for what? for playing nba live 06? XD

this achievement thing its insane,i have a friend on my gaming list who is calling my wife to know if i rented a game that day
 
Amir0x said:
Each game has a specific list of game-related accomplishments that net you points when you complete them. Aka "Beat the game on Veteran", aka "Get 1,000,000 points in X game", etc...

up to 1000 points per game

As to value for something other than dick waving, I don't think so but I'm not 100% sure.

I think you've said dick-waving in every XBL thread when achievements come up. So I have two questions:

1) Do you have a dick?

and, if so,

2) Have you ever waved it around a bit?

You might enjoy it as much as I do....
 
Hmm, so this is the Internet viral marketing stuff I've heard about. "One console man", buys even the crap games for points, is a supposed "RPG freak" and doesn't even mention the PS2. Would anybody honestly be surprised is this was all just a publicity trick?
 
Dr_Cogent said:
Seems like some sort of self punishment or something to me. Apparently getting those points makes him REAL happy though.

Which makes me wonder where the appeal is for non-insane, non-hardcore gamers in attaining a bunch of achievement points.

Aside from dick-waving?

Just like an MMO, it's really a retarded thing to brag about. "Hey, look how much of my life I waste playing games!" Not to say gaming is a waste of time, but doing anything 14 hours a day (for no apparent gain, no less) is a waste of life.
 
Juice said:
Which makes me wonder where the appeal is for non-insane, non-hardcore gamers in attaining a bunch of achievement points.

Aside from dick-waving?

Just like an MMO, it's really a retarded thing to brag about. "Hey, look how much of my life I waste playing games!" Not to say gaming is a waste of time, but doing anything 14 hours a day (for no apparent gain, no less) is a waste of life.

Yeah, I gotta agree. The guy seems like a total social loser. College years shouldn't be wasted entirely on playing games all the freakin time.

I worked my ass off in college both with school work and my jobs (in order to pay my bills, I didn't have my school paid for me) and I also enjoyed it from the social aspect as well. I played video games, sure, but I didn't spend too much time doing that. There were too many hotties on campus to waste all my time on video games.
 
Juice said:
Which makes me wonder where the appeal is for non-insane, non-hardcore gamers in attaining a bunch of achievement points.

Aside from dick-waving?

Just like an MMO, it's really a retarded thing to brag about. "Hey, look how much of my life I waste playing games!" Not to say gaming is a waste of time, but doing anything 14 hours a day (for no apparent gain, no less) is a waste of life.


your right MMO's are a waste of life.
 
Kabuki Waq said:
playing crap games just for points is pretty retarded.

Yes.

But playing a good game for points isn't quite so retarded.

It made me enjoy COD2 even more because I played it again in Veteran to get the points. For dick waving? Sure, to a certain extend. For self gratification? Most definitively. In the end, it made me play and enjoy a game much longer than would be the case without the points.
 
I propose that any bashing of the achievement system should only be allowed from those people that actually have a 360 and achievements. Until you see it in action, you're not going to understand. I didn't even really know about the feature until after I got my 360, and now I think it is one of the best features of the 360.


Zer0 said:
this achievement thing its insane,i have a friend on my gaming list who is calling my wife to know if i rented a game that day

There are privacy settings. You don't have to broadcast what you are playing.
 
Be honest; Do you get achievements for fun or bragging rights?
I don't think anyone above 15k gets them only for fun, I mean you can't like all the games. So it's mostly for bragging right even though I don't brag that much (at least not yet). I really think the whole achievements concept is the best idea that Microsoft had since they created Xbox Live as it makes you play games you would never have tried otherwise.

Think about this. I mean really really think about this. I can see people buying shitty games just to get all the achievements and that makes me sick.
 
TheTrin said:
i'd probably have a score higher than 2030 if I fucking played anything on my 360 right now. God, how does my PS2 manage to steal my attention away every fucking month?

Muddy textures FTW? ;)

Other than the random Guitar Hero session my PS2 is feeling very unloved. I even stacked the 360 on top of it to show it who's boss in my house. Stupid PS2 giving me no points, just the satisfaction of a job well done. HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO BRAG!
 
Shaheed79 said:
Think about this. I mean really really think about this. I can see people buying shitty games just to get all the achievements and that makes me sick.

I can see this breaking off into an uber-elite faction. They will know which games are weaksauce and will judge themselves entirely on achieving a "natural" gamerscore, without the crutches. They will turn up their noses at King Kong and EA, and anyone who has 1000pts in these games will be a pwned noob.

Too bad you can't remove King Kong from your lists noobs! It will tarnish you FOREVER.

Seriously though, I can't wait until people start slagging on certain folks when they see 1000/1000 achievements on Barbie's 360 Pony Adventure.
 
snatches said:
I think you've said dick-waving in every XBL thread when achievements come up. So I have two questions:

1) Do you have a dick?

and, if so,

2) Have you ever waved it around a bit?

You might enjoy it as much as I do....

I don't think the attempt at humour really stuck man. But, uh, no can't say I have the desire to wave my dick. Dick waving turns me off, sorry duder.
 
Not sure where all the hate for this guy is coming from. I don't think he sounds arrogant in the interview, although I agree that it's stupid to play games you don't enjoy just to inflate your score. That will change once more games start to release and it'll be impossible to keep up with 'em all.

I love how everyone here is like "Hehe! He's single! Figures!" That sums up most of GAF, so cut him a little slack.

As for the achievements, I do think they are a lot of fun, and add something to a game, but comparing gamerscores is kind of stupid and pointless. I've had my 360 for two weeks, and have a 300 gamerscore. Of course, I only own one game (PGR) and a couple of XBLA games, so it's kind of idiotic to compare my score to someone elses. Still, I like the achievement concept overall, just not that it needs to be published in some huge, over riding "Gamer Score".
 
jedimike said:
I propose that any bashing of the achievement system should only be allowed from those people that actually have a 360 and achievements. Until you see it in action, you're not going to understand. I didn't even really know about the feature until after I got my 360, and now I think it is one of the best features of the 360.




There are privacy settings. You don't have to broadcast what you are playing.


yeah..but he calls to know if i rented a game,to rent himself the same game to make more points XD
 
Zer0 said:
yeah..but he calls to know if i rented a game,to rent himself the same game to make more points XD

Sounds more like a "friend" problem, then an XBL problem. Here's the privacy settings in case anyone is interested.

http://spaces.msn.com/xboxelle/


Privacy settings

There's another little feature that's a part of your gamer profile that you may have missed. Privacy settings! Privacy settings allow you to fine tune what info is available about you on Xbox Live, and to whom.


Tip: To set online privacy options, select your gamer card then select Edit Gamer Profile, Privacy Settings.


The first five settings control your interaction with other people on Xbox Live. Each of these (communications, online status, gamer profile, played games, and member content) can be set to one of three options: Everyone, Friends Only, or Blocked. A setting of Everyone means that anyone on Xbox Live can perform that action. If you want to limit access to just the people on your friends list, pick Friends Only. If you're a total recluse and don't to interact with anyone, choose Blocked.

Communications - Use this to control who can send you messages and invites. You'll still receive friend requests and system messages no matter what you set.

Online Status - Choose who can see your online status. People who can't see your online status (non-friends if you have it set to Friends Only, or anyone if you set it to Blocked) will always see you as offline. See my online status entry for more info about online status.

Played Games - Control who can see your list of played games. Handy if you've been playing a super-top-secret game that no one should see yet. Or, maybe you just want to hide the fact you've been playing Barbie Horse Adventure 2: Electric Boogaloo*.

Gamer Profile - Control who can see your motto. Fun fact: this used to be both gamer picture and motto (hence the more generic "gamer profile" label) but it was changed during development to just motto.

Member Content - This one doesn't have a lot of use right now, but it will as people create content to share with other people. You can choose whether you want to see the content.


The last two options are for marketing. Essentially, you're telling Xbox Live whether you want them to bug you in e-mail. You originally set these when you signed up for Xbox Live.

Xbox Marketing - This controls whether you want Microsoft or Xbox to send you offers and info in e-mail. You can opt in or opt out.

Partner Marketing - This controls whether you want other parties (publishers, partners, and the like) to send you e-mail. You can opt in or opt out.


One thing to note: these settings apply only to autonomous adult accounts. If you've got a child account controlled by Family Settings, there are similar options, but they're set in Xbox Live Family Settings on the System blade. Parents can control their child's privacy settings there.

So there you go. More ways to customize your own experience on Xbox Live. Enjoy!


* this game does not exist. Well, it exists, if only in my dreams...
 
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