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iPhone 4 plagued with antenna reception problem; hardware design to blame
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adamsappel
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MWS Natural said:
When Nintendo found out that people were being freakin' idiots and hurling their Wiimotes into their television screens, they provided free replacement wrist-straps and eventually offered up-to-4 free Wiimote condoms. If this is an endemic issue with the iPhone 4, I would hope Apple would follow that example. I have no desire to pay $30 for an ugly strip of rubber that costs pennies to manufacture.
To the people who have the "bars problem" are you also having a problem with dropping more calls than usual or losing data coverage?
Mine seemed to go away after the first day (when I was dropping calls like crazy). Hopefully it stays this way for my phone and happens to others as well.
Mine seemed to go away after the first day (when I was dropping calls like crazy). Hopefully it stays this way for my phone and happens to others as well.
I like where Steve is going with this. I mean obviously he continues to provide excellent hardware to the masses for pennies on your dollar and yet some go out of the way to blame such a thing as cell reception on Apple hardware where clearly AT&T gets a free pass correct?
Simply amazing.
Simply amazing.
Ollie Pooch
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Steve Jobs said himself it's a non-issue and to change the way you hold the phone. There won't be a case redesign OR free bumpers incoming.jns said:
thechristoph
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I can replicate the issue, but I can't see it ever affecting me in real life. I use the earbuds when talking on the phone. I held the phone up to my ear in such a way that I'd complete the circuit but it was uncomfortable... I don't know how this will come up other than a "cannot unsee", or I guess in this case, "cannot untouch" type of situation.
Gary Whitta
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Here now is Apple's official response, which I present without comment.
Jamesfrom818
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Pctx said:
Your transformation from Android/Nexus One fan to Apple fanboy has been extremely entertaining.
so if I hold the phone in my palm so that I'm only touching glass its fine. full signal.
If I take my fingertip and put it on top of the black seam bottom left it dies on me. For some reason top seam is fine. if I put my fingertip on either side of the seam its fine, but over the top its not happy.
Hardware issue, be it a design or manufacturing problem, this is not normal, its not rare and its not acceptable.
If I take my fingertip and put it on top of the black seam bottom left it dies on me. For some reason top seam is fine. if I put my fingertip on either side of the seam its fine, but over the top its not happy.
Hardware issue, be it a design or manufacturing problem, this is not normal, its not rare and its not acceptable.
lol, I don't care what Steve Jobs says, if this really is the problem it seems to be then it is an issue that requires some kind of fix from Apple. I'm not ready to throw all my Apple products out the window over this potential problem but fans of their products and services have to let the company know they are/would be disapointed with no action on Apples behalf.julls said:
Oh, telling me to hold my phone differently when making calls or using the web is not an acceptable solution (unless they packaging clearly states I have to hold the phone a certain way in order for it to work)
Lets hope this problem is either not widespread, or action can be taken quickly.
For those wondering why they couldnt put the antenna on the top of the phone: http://www.antennasys.com/antennasys-blog/2010/6/24/apple-iphone-4-antennas.html
Short answer: FCC requirements to keep radiation away from head.
Short answer: FCC requirements to keep radiation away from head.
letsbereasonable
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My phone has the issue and it can be reproduced on command as in the videos.
The Jobs response on this is incredibly disappointing. This doesn't appear to be sprung on them today, either, as they have known about this at least since before Mossberg filmed his review and asked them for comment.
I would've been willing to accept a "hold on, let us look into it" response to let them deal with it for a few days, but a virtual "u mad bro?" via Jobs's iPad isn't sufficient.
While it's amusing, I don't buy the bumper conspiracy. Apple was probably just tired of Griffin and the other case makers making a killing when an Apple-branded case, no matter how simple, would be an insta-sale for a lot of people.
The Jobs response on this is incredibly disappointing. This doesn't appear to be sprung on them today, either, as they have known about this at least since before Mossberg filmed his review and asked them for comment.
I would've been willing to accept a "hold on, let us look into it" response to let them deal with it for a few days, but a virtual "u mad bro?" via Jobs's iPad isn't sufficient.
While it's amusing, I don't buy the bumper conspiracy. Apple was probably just tired of Griffin and the other case makers making a killing when an Apple-branded case, no matter how simple, would be an insta-sale for a lot of people.
letsbereasonable
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Burger said:
All of the above?
I live about an hour away from the Apple store and the phone reps had no response when I called them today; they basically said they had no replacement phones to work with.
We'll see what happens the next week as Apple gets more of these out and then I'll take a drive to the genius bar and see what they say.
WickedAngel
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The company line isn't very reassuring.
I don't plan on owning an iPhone any time soon (pretty much only because I won't go AT&T), but this is really fucking ridiculous. I've owned plenty of cell phones and have never had this issue with any of them. To suggest that people should not hold their phone a certain way is a totally unacceptable response to this problem. I never think about how I'm holding my phone......I just hold it. To have to always remain conscious of how I'm holding my phone lest the signal fades or the connection dies or something.....total deal breaker for me.
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oh, well if the bumper thing solves the problem then that's fine I guess, although still kinda shitty.
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oh, well if the bumper thing solves the problem then that's fine I guess, although still kinda shitty.
Burger
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jns said:
Remaining calm, breathing slowly, and not jumping to conclusions would be a start. If your new phone works great, then great. If it doesn't work great, take it back and ask for a replacement or your money back. It's pretty simple isn't it ?
I mean there are even people here who don't own iPhones that are outraged.
Devil Theory
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I was convinced this was the perfect phone, and planned on trying to pick one up tomorrow, but now this killed it for me. I'll try it at the store for myself.
There's some vague hope if there's people who don't have issues.
There's some vague hope if there's people who don't have issues.
Ripclawe said:
yeah, lets go back to that iPad launch video, shall we?
There is no right way or wrong way of holding it. I dont have to change myself to fit the product. it fits me
I cant help but smile when shit like this happens.
Not sure if Id be smiling if I had just bought one and had this problem, though :lol
WickedAngel
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Y2Kev said:
We're going to need confirmation of that via YouTube.
This is all well and good but its still important for people to be able to make informed decisions on their purchase (if they dont already own one) and to be able to read any potential problems. It does suck that fanbois from both sides will fill this thread with crap (as is the way of the internet) but personally I think threads like this can be the best starting places when looking for information and sharing experiances when these kind of things happen.Burger said:
I would guess this thread will contain alot more information on the actual problem than anyone would get from the apple store or the retail store they bought the phone from.
jonnybryce
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Y2Kev said:
:lol
You're supposed to blame AT&T!
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