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Is 3DS > Switch the largest generational graphics power leap?

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I think it is generally accepted that going from one generation to the next you will see around 6-10x the raw power of the previous generations console (based on what I've picked up around similar discussions).

The switch on the other hand does around 156 Gflops in handheld mode (based on Eurogamer clocks). And then based on this website (of which I had a bit of issue verifying the veracity of) the 3DS GPU is 4.8 gflops.

Going from 4.8 to 156 is a 32.5x increase in raw GPU power (ignoring all architectural advantages) and it goes even higher if you include the docked mode at 384 GF this puts it at a solid 80x the raw power.

Sampling some random numbers from the previous GPU gflop site nothing even comes close to an 80x multiplier. PS2 > PS3 though seems to be slightly higher than the 3DS > Switch portable mode but doesn't touch the dock. Is there a jump I'm missing here? If not I think that's a pretty impressive thing and a neat little tidbit about the switch.
 
Did you intentionally ignore the Wii U in this equation, or has it been that forgotten already hah? It's a big jump if you're a 3ds only guy moving to Switch but it is their new home console, and I'd obviously continue the jump from the Wii U. Even if you consider it a handheld or will use it as so, it's strange to ignore the Wii U, without getting into the semantics of what it is. Doesn't take away from how nice a jump it is from the 3ds or vita in power though!
 
I mean, isn't it cheating? It's a hybrid, and not really a true handheld.

I really don't know how I feel about the Switch being the 3DS successor because I really enjoy the smaller titles on 3DS and the miniature versions of Zelda games and Pokemon games. I hope they can remain separate from console-like games.
 
I think SNES - N64 is a pretty huge leap.

Edit: The Switch is clearly a handheld.

Not saying it's not also in part a console, but it works as a standalone handheld console.
 
The Switch is clearly the sequel to the Wii U, especially since Nintendo PR themselves have said they are no longer supporting Wii U but continuing to support 3DS.
 
I see the Switch's position within Nintendo's console genealogy as a successor of the Wii U, with the 3DS being the last in its portable line (for now) as the Switch is kind of engulfing that position as well. It feels like cheating to deny the fact that the Wii U is also a direct ancestor to the Switch :P
 
Does it have to be by the same company?

...or are we just talking in dedicated, on the go, handheld gaming hardware (ignoring phones)?

I wonder what the difference from Vita to Switch is "flops" wise if we include it?
 
Nintendo "Switch is a home console and successor to the Wii U"

Fans "So 3DS is dead right?"


It will replace 3DS if it succeeds but saying it's a direct successor is wrong.
 
Donniewahlberg said:
Did you intentionally ignore the Wii U in this equation, or has it been that forgotten already hah? It's a big jump if you're a 3ds only guy moving to Switch but it is their new home console, and I'd obviously continue the jump from the Wii U.
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The gamepad isn't running the games, it just displays the output from the console.
 
From same manufacturor? Maybe. Otherwise it's gen from GBA to PSP. You pretty much jumped over one gen if you switched from GBA to PSP.
 
Is Wii U > Switch the smallest generational graphics power leap?

Actually I'm not even sure if it is with nintendo's past transitions.

Bulbasaur said:
And if it wasn't marketed as a home console people would be applauding it.
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If it launched at 199 with non-removable controllers and no dock I would be way more on board honestly.
 
It's definitely a Wii U successor, so no. I could buy it if we were seeing 3DS game sequels/ports, but...

Splatoon - Splatoon 2
The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild cross-play
Mario Kart 8 - Mario Kart 8 Deluxe

Busaiku said:
Gamecube to Wii.
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I don't know that I'd agree. A lot of Switch games don't really look that much better.
 
yeah probably. I'm imagining people who buy the thing that plays Pokemon games going from a 3DS to a Switch having their damn minds blown.

A Link to the Past said:
It's definitely a Wii U successor, so no. I could buy it if we were seeing 3DS game sequels/ports, but...

Splatoon - Splatoon 2
The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild cross-play
Mario Kart 8 - Mario Kart 8 Deluxe
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Mario Kart is a franchise that appears on both handheld and console so that one straddles the line even if it's a port of the Wii U version. they're not going to release Mario Kart 7 Deluxe because it'd be redundant at that point. then you've got stuff like Fire Emblem, SMT, and Project Octopath Traveler coming and seemingly Pokemon as well as far as the handheld side is concerned. then you've got some others that straddle the line like Fire Emblem Warriors and Xenoblade Chronicles 2. so it's a successor to both and considering more people own a 3DS than a Wii U more people are going to be coming at the Switch from the 3DS.
 
Nintendo isnt considering this the 3DS successor.That would be too good to be true.

A competently powered machine ?! No!

phanphare said:
yeah probably. I'm imagining people who buy the thing that plays Pokemon games going from a 3DS to a Switch having their damn minds blown.
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I am definitely buying the switch if it actually gets the pokemon games.

I have a suspicion that it wont.
 
Since it is technically a handheld, you can certainly make the argument. It remains to be seen whether or not this will truly be a third pillar, something tells me it will end up being the 3ds successor anyways, just like the ds was to game boy.

To the people stuck in the trenches of the handheld vs console argument, its both. Duh. You cant argue that it is not a next gen nintendo handheld nor console because it is both.
 
If you're talking in the same company and excluding steps inbetween from others, then Super Nintendo to Nintendo 64 is probably the biggest leap. Another lesser one might be Saturn to Dreamcast.
 
The Switch is a home console first and portable second so you can't make this comparison. The logical comparison is Wii U to Switch.
 
killatopak said:
Do you consider remote play as playing on the Vita?
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that's not comparable in the slightest because you are remotely playing from a PS4, hence the term "remote play". you'll be playing games from the Switch console itself whether you're using it as a handheld or a console.

so that's not really a relevant comparison

it also requires the purchase of additional hardware whereas the Switch does not
 
Kamina said:
If you consider Switch to be a handheld that is
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Of course it's a handheld. It's a single device with an integrated screen, wireless capabilities and controls that can be played on the go. You need a docking station to connect it to a TV.
 
Even Nintendo markets it as a home console but some of you guys insist to consider it a handheld, specifically 3DS sucessor WTF. Jesus.
 
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