Just try not to take the rest of us with you please.Kinda sucks that the Roman Empire lasted longer than us. Thought we had more gas in that democratic tank. We had a good run guys. Time to go into survival mode. (If Trump is elected)
Pizzaman was right.
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Is anyone voting for Donald Trump?
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J_ToSaveTheDay
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It's a gaming community. If there's anything I've learned about gaming communities over the past few years, it's that I am finding them more and more intensely disagreeable as time goes on.
I do still greatly appreciate GAF in its general state and tone of discussion, but the fact that a gaming-based community harbors a base of users like that doesn't shock me at all.
I do apologize if that sounds aggressively cynical.
I had to block my three brothers on my phone because they insist on including me in a pro-trump group chat on mobile and I can't leave the fucking group so the only solution was to block them as contacts lol. I guess if they really need to reach me they can just call my mom haha
Don't worry voting for Hill but expecting the worst from people. Just to shoehorn another media reference. The Dark Knight boat scene.... will we react out of fear mongering or do the logical thing? Too bad life ain't like the movies.
Lightning_Roller
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It's a gaming community. If there's anything I've learned about gaming communities over the past few years, it's that I am finding them more and more intensely disagreeable as time goes on.
I do still greatly appreciate GAF in its general state and tone of discussion, but the fact that a gaming-based community harbors a base of users like that doesn't shock me at all.
I do apologize if that sounds aggressively cynical.
Yeah, it's sad to learn that the people you share a hobbie with, especially video games, tend to be the only thing you have in common. Because everything else in general, like this topic and others on social issues tend to shine a light on negative qualities of individuals you thought never had them in the first place. It's eye opening really, but it's good to know that GAF has a lot of great people here, like in this thread and out of it. I love you all, awesome people, have a internet hug.
Some people, will vote for Hillary because it is the best of the current options, no matter her current scandals.
Also if you do intend to vote for Trump, can you keep your apocalypse closed off to your continent? We the rest of the world actually wanna stick around for a bit longer.
Also if you do intend to vote for Trump, can you keep your apocalypse closed off to your continent? We the rest of the world actually wanna stick around for a bit longer.
Why would you vote for the antichrist if he's going to half-ass the job? Whole world or bust!
Mr. Giggles
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It's a gaming community. If there's anything I've learned about gaming communities over the past few years, it's that I am finding them more and more intensely disagreeable as time goes on.
I do still greatly appreciate GAF in its general state and tone of discussion, but the fact that a gaming-based community harbors a base of users like that doesn't shock me at all.
I do apologize if that sounds aggressively cynical.
Just One trip to the Off topic side is enough to make you think twice.
Lots of users I thought were cool were huge ass wipes the moment they stepped into the ot
Darryl M R
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Yup.
I'm (very reluctantly) voting for Hillary, as much as I can't stand her and do believe she will say whatever is necessary to get the largest voting demographic possible..I simply can't and won't vote for Trump.
This election is one of the most pathetic events of my lifetime, there are 320+ million people in this country and these are the two we are forced to pick from.
This election is one of the most pathetic events of my lifetime, there are 320+ million people in this country and these are the two we are forced to pick from.
eot
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I haven't seen a second of true detective s2 but somehow I feel that gif is taken from thereKinda sucks that the Roman Empire lasted longer than us. Thought we had more gas in that democratic tank. We had a good run guys. Time to go into survival mode. (If Trump is elected)
Pizzaman was right.
But most of us don't even believe in anti-christ, we just believe in crazy people with access to nukes.
im still undecided. i may just not vote but i really want the free appetizer my local bar gives away if you vote. its a conundrum. The only thing that motivates my vote away from HRC is healthcare. i've seen it go to shit and seen people who really really really need help get declined by insurance due to obama initiated healthcare. Bill Clinton passed an act that completely changed healthcare to prevent fraud and it actually caused more fraud and shittier heakthcare, at least with geriatric care.
i don't think i could, in good conscious, vote from trump tho. i dunno.
i don't think i could, in good conscious, vote from trump tho. i dunno.
Juke Joint Jezebel
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Man! Sounds like you guys have a shit deal no matter who you all vote for. Wishing you the best of luck in the upcoming election, I mean it!
I have a sneaking feeling that whoever gets voted in next is going to have the shortest term since H.W Bush.
I have a sneaking feeling that whoever gets voted in next is going to have the shortest term since H.W Bush.
As a man of mixed race with brown skin who sports a beard and has a funny hard to pronounce name who doesn't make a ton of money and is friends with a wide variety of people including gay, trans, black and so on I can't in good conscious place a vote for Donald Trump. Not only that but as someone who is an avid fan of history and the like he is going by the playbook of fascists, dictators, and every power mad individual of the past trying to garner favor. Its just sad that no one else sees him doing what so many other terrible individuals in the past have done to get into office or a seat of power.
sechsterangriff
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I'm not American and I wouldn't know how to continue to interact with a friend/family who would openly support him or someone like him. For me Hillary was being way too nice by calling part of his supporters "deplorable". Ignorance is no excuse for being a bad person either.
Lots of dumb quotes from S2, but this one hits home for me at least. We have all watched this like a reality show from the beginning. This fucking clown is the Republican nominee... seriously let that sink in. Before they had Romney (I did not support) who actually ran a real fucking business and at least had a policy for something or anything jesus. I just hope this is a serious wake up call to the Republican Party they a adopt a socially liberal/fiscally conservative view going forward to make them more relevant with my generation (lol millennials).
Democracy like capitalism needs competition to make it work. Sadly we have monopolies in both.
Alpha Centauri
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This is similar to what I've seen. However, I can't shake the feeling that when they get anonymously polled, and subsequently when they are alone in the ballot box, their vote is and will be for Trump.
The race is close, and anecdotally speaking, only 1 out of the countless Republicans I know say they are voting Trump. The rest are Johnson voters, at least that's what they say.
R's are going to vote for him. They will begrudgingly do it, but they will do it nonetheless. Mark Levin was an adamant #NeverTrump-er. What is he doing now? Voting for Trump and shaming the R's that won't vote for him
Redstate.com has been unabashedly resentful of Donald Trump. They are a bastion for anti-Trump Republicans, and you can see it slightly in their dialogue from the editors to the comments they are weakening. They still make fun of him, but where they used to draw attention to the irreparable harm Trump would have on this country, they have adopted a more "both sides suck" stance which is what most Republicans have been saying anyway. "If both sides suck... I'll vote for my side" is the next step in that logic.
I once thought this race was going to be a blowout, and there is plenty of time for Hillary to have good weeks, but Trump after every gaffe just creeps back up again.
It basically tells me that people like my acquaintances and friends are most likely lying to me. In the end they will vote Trump. Or the polls are wrong, but I wouldn't bet on it.
Rabbi_Vole
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This really is the worst election.
Led_Zeppelin
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I REALLY didn't expect these results. Apart from the 10% DJT.
Cool site, I found out that I am more Libertarian than I thought I was (I am not American), I agree on almost everything with Johnson in a level or other.
BravesCountry
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I was able to convince my dad not to vote for him after many many weeks of discussions and sometimes even fighting. My dads job disappeared after the recession and I think it has changed him as a person, he wasn't always like this watching Fox News all the time and blindly hating everything Obama has ever done. He won't vote for Hillary but at least he won't vote for Trump now. He actually in a moment of weakness said he might vote for Hillary but I'm not expecting it.
I think this is important to anyone trying to convince someone not to vote for Trump, for some reason people get really upset at labels. Such as racist, xenophobic, etc. and honestly if you go up to a trump supporter and say but how can you vote for him he is racist xenohobic misygonistic etc it's actually not helpful at all and is pretty empty of substance not to mention it's much more likely to put that person on the defense.
I was watching CNN and Van Jones might just be the smartest person on television, he empathized with the Trump talking heads, spoke calmly, then logically dismantled their argument about birtherism Trump without using labels. It was clear they had no real response and had to deflect to another issue, it was clear to anyone they were outsmarted. Then the next liberal guy in the panel literally said and yeah he is racist xenophobic blah blah blah while yelling and it just felt like all progress was lost as you could see the trump talking head recoil and crawl back into the shell.
I get that a lot of his supporters even in the face of overwhelming evidence, like some in this thread, won't ever change their mind, but some will. A lot of them aren't very enthusiastic about him in the first place and reasoned discussion can go a long way. A lot of people haven't thought very hard on a lot of these issues and if you are even slightly knowledgeable it's easy to have some advantage in the conversation without being antogonistic. Empathize, say you can see where they are coming from but examples 1,2, and 3 show that the reasoning is flawed. Often they won't have much of a response if you know information past what makes talking points or news headlines. Concede a little, take a lot.
partyphone
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libertarians are shitty selfish assholes, generally. the problem with our government is all of the money corrupting it not that it exists in the first place. none of the candidates are actually going to fix that problem but trump and johnson would make it much, much worse whereas clinton could potentially help roll back some of the damage the republicans did under obama. assuming democrats can take control of congress over the next few years.
I'd never vote for someone who imitates handicapped people for a joke.
For example, doing something like this:
It's like <Insert Reality show> season 12... everyone has gotten lazy and the viewers accept the drop in quality.
I was gonna do this but had to accept that I might as well stay home.
Libertarianism isn't a great answer to Trump though. Deregulation would just lead us down the same shitty path to ecological destruction and copyright strangleholding (because deregulation never includes copyright law) that we've been going down for the past decade. A vote for Johnson is a vote for corporate power.
You know what worries me about people like the OP ?
Conservative Punditry has managed to mangle and twist reality into a strange parallel dimension where President Obama is the Anti Christ, the United States is two minutes away from failing economically, and how we as a country are hurting to a degree where we can longer call ourselves 'Great'.
Trump's platform has managed to legitimize a American ignorance/arrogance in the guise of a loosely defined and over used word: Patriotism.
The idea that Americans and the President need to behave in a manner where chauvinistic speech, feigned stupidity, and insensitivity to other nations, ethnicities, religions, genders, and the female sex is buried underneath a layer of ignorance is truly truly truly frightening.
Sigh.
Conservative Punditry has managed to mangle and twist reality into a strange parallel dimension where President Obama is the Anti Christ, the United States is two minutes away from failing economically, and how we as a country are hurting to a degree where we can longer call ourselves 'Great'.
Trump's platform has managed to legitimize a American ignorance/arrogance in the guise of a loosely defined and over used word: Patriotism.
The idea that Americans and the President need to behave in a manner where chauvinistic speech, feigned stupidity, and insensitivity to other nations, ethnicities, religions, genders, and the female sex is buried underneath a layer of ignorance is truly truly truly frightening.
Sigh.
TheLostBigBoss
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Anyone who votes Trump is
1) Someone blatantly ignores all the white nationalist and neo-nazi propaganda he uses
2) Ignoring how racist he personally is
3) Ignoring how simple minded he is, considering he speaks at a fourth grade level, at best. He can't finish a fucking sentence without repeating the first part of it, or going on a completely separate topic at hand.
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Someone who is voting Trump is voting for him because of those reasons.
So you're either voting for him because you're an idiot who can't identify when someone else is an idiot, or you're voting for him because you're a horrible fucking person who doesn't care or think about just how bad having a white nationalist for POTUS and selecting our next nominee of SCOUTS would be for anyone not white.
I have a lot of words I would use to describe people who vote Trump, but I'll let others use their imagination
1) Someone blatantly ignores all the white nationalist and neo-nazi propaganda he uses
2) Ignoring how racist he personally is
3) Ignoring how simple minded he is, considering he speaks at a fourth grade level, at best. He can't finish a fucking sentence without repeating the first part of it, or going on a completely separate topic at hand.
Or
Someone who is voting Trump is voting for him because of those reasons.
So you're either voting for him because you're an idiot who can't identify when someone else is an idiot, or you're voting for him because you're a horrible fucking person who doesn't care or think about just how bad having a white nationalist for POTUS and selecting our next nominee of SCOUTS would be for anyone not white.
I have a lot of words I would use to describe people who vote Trump, but I'll let others use their imagination
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Why vote for someone who by mathematical and logical probability has no chance?
Yes, screw 240 years of that stable institution.
Are you warning up to her antivax, anti-GMO, anti-nuclear anti-science derp? She's a politician, and eventually you realize she's playing the same game, just from a different front... Without any hope of making any change.
TheLostBigBoss
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I'll answer that for you
You see, voting is a moral choice. A choice to show the world I am not going to stand for the same corruption, the same Washington BS that goes on every day. I can't morally vote for someone who I feel is lying all the time, so I need to vote with my own sake and show everyone I am not going to stand for it anymore.
Forget that "voting for my morals" or "voting ethically" means that I'm actually standing on the sidelines as the GOP nominee talks about mass deportations, hangs around with neo-nazis, embraces his entire base of racist dump people, or even worst, smart racists. I could try and stop what could very well be the collapse of the world economy under a Trump presidency, I could prevent the SCOTUS from going conservative for another generation, but I have to vote for my morals!
Thats cause GAF is a safe space.
Yup. It's an (Ignorant and egotistical) fart in the wind.
casnix
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I'd rather vote for someone I agree with on most topics than for someone I don't. If more people did this than just voting for the lesser of 2 evils, we might get somewhere as a country.
Lightning_Roller
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Alpha Centauri
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Genuine question:
How does this apply to the dozens of states where the vote won't even be close? I am in Tennessee. Trump will win by 25+ percentage points. My vote for Clinton would be purely based off of morals, no?
Should I simply stay home?
SlipperyFishes
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And in the end voting for your morals ends up having no effect and you feel even more left out politically because your candidate is essentially fridged after an election.
TheLostBigBoss
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Vote down ballot
I can't convince you that Clinton is the most qualified person to run for POTUS.
However, if you actually want to go do some research, I'm sure you can convince yourself that the current independent nominees are not remotely qualified to be POTUS
excelsiorlef
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I'd never vote for someone who imitates handicapped people for a joke.
For example, doing something like this:
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I guess that's a step up in the anti-Clinton playbook from claiming it was seizures...
That you think that's somehow making fun of people with disabilities is laughable.
SlipperyFishes
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What's the context behind this gif. The real one, not what it's come to mean for Trump supporters.I'd never vote for someone who imitates handicapped people for a joke.
For example, doing something like this:
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