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[BKatastrophe]

NOOOOOO! WE AREN'T SUPPOSED TO POST ANYMORE OF THESE IN OT! NOOOOOO!

*ahem* Anyways:

-Unalaq merged with Vaatu severed the connection by absorbing Raava.
-Korra goes to the Tree of Time which, being a place of strong spiritual energy, allows her to project her own spirit into an avatar (heh).
-Korra fights UnaVaatu, and begins to lose before Jinora shows up and flashbulbs everything, which allows Korra to detect and reassemble Raava from within UnaVaatu.
-Then KorRaava destroys UnaVaatu
-Korra, now merged with Raava, returns to maintaining world balance, however she cannot connect with her past lives. Though she CAN connect with Raava. She assumes the connection is completely severed.
-When Korra is eventually captured and poisoned by the Red Lotus, this forces her into the Avatar state and she beats Zaheer who is taken prisoner. The rest of the Red Lotus are either dead or imprisoned.
-Korra technically dies, however the poison is removed by Suyin metalbending it out (it was mercury).
-Korra then goes through several years of rehab, only to eventually discover that she can't reconnect with Raava anymore. Going into the Avatar State hurts her psychologically and physically.
-She eventually journeys and finds Toph Beifong, who helps her remove the mercury poisoning. However, entering the Avatar State still takes a psychological toll on her.
-She then visits Zaheer in order to get over her post-traumatic stress she had after she died (and really, well, everything that happened to her in the past few years because, let's face it, she's had a pretty fucked up life). Overcoming this, he helps her reconnect with Raava.

So no, she cannot reconnect with her past lives.

 

[Wafflecakes]

Didn'the aang lose his connection when azula killed him?

Or something still confused about that

No, he just lost his connection to the avatar state.

He could still communicate with his past lives.

 

[D1renegade]

The past avatars weren't that helpful for her so it's probably best that she cut them off.

 

[obijkenobi]

The past avatars weren't that helpful for her so it's probably best that she cut them off.

Wut. Aang gave her energy bending and unlocked the three elements she had lost access to. How is that not helpful?

 

[Captin Quacker]

No, he just lost his connection to the avatar state.

He could still communicate with his past lives.

I thought once he was killed in the avatar state he loses its all

 

[Wafflecakes]

I thought once he was killed in the avatar state he loses its all

He didn't die though. Not really.

 

[BKatastrophe]

The past avatars weren't that helpful for her so it's probably best that she cut them off.

What? The main reason she didn't use them past Aang in Book One was become she had become incredibly arrogant. That's a massive part of her character arc. It's not that they weren't helpful, it's that she was incredibly arrogant and made very stupid decisions because of it. Then, by the time she figures her shit out, she gets all that stripped away from her. So now, she's finally in a place where she'd actually use her past lives for help, yet now she can't anymore because she done fucked up and her uncle is an evil fuck.

Wut. Aang gave her energy bending and unlocked the three elements she had lost access to. How is that not helpful?

Also this.

I thought once he was killed in the avatar state he loses its all

Spirit water + he got over it = it's fine. Also chakras.

He didn't die though. Not really.

He absolutely 100% did die.

 

[Captin Quacker]

He didn't die though. Not really.

So dead but somehow not?

 

[GamingOblivion]

He absolutely 100% did die.

Got that proof from the text for that?

 

[Agent Gibbs]

Thanks for the spoilers in the topic title OP, I'm only on book 1, guess i should not bother with the rest now.

I thought spoilers in topic titles were strictly forbidden

 

[Toa TAK]

Thanks for the spoilers in the topic title OP, I'm only on book 1, guess i should not bother with the rest now.

I thought spoilers in topic titles were strictly forbidden

Rosebud was his sledddd

 

[gardfish]

Thanks for the spoilers in the topic title OP, I'm only on book 1, guess i should not bother with the rest now.

I thought spoilers in topic titles were strictly forbidden

fwiw this spoiler doesn't come anywhere close to the end of the series, and really has comparatively little bearing on the plot afterward

 

[Cranster]

I like to pretend Legend of Korra never happened.

 

[AntraxSuicide]

You can't look at TLA's conflict as coming from one person, though. TLA didn't thrive on its main villain. It thrived on its entire villain family, and the conflict that fought within the hearts of its members. You can call Ozai simplistic, but that family was more compelling than any singular villain that ever appeared in Korra.

Azula is my favorite Avatar character across both series, but they definitely whiffed on filling out her background. Zuko is the only developed bad person (since Iroh is also never shown as a bad guy); Ozai is incredibly simplistic to the point of barely being human, and Azula gets pretty close most of the time (only showing something deeper in a few episodes).

Korra had more overall problems, but basic villains wasn't one of them. You end up seeing something in each of them, which Korra has to admit to herself later.

 

[Toa TAK]

I like to pretend Legend of Korra never happened.

But who wants to forget Kuvira?

 

[Discotheque]

But who wants to forget Kuvira?

you mean earth hitler?

she was a pretty badass villain though no doubt. honestly....i think legend of korra had better villains than avatar (and I'm including azula and zuko in that as well). Although they never really gave them good endings they had interesting buildup and rocked.

 

[irfaanator]

also isnt technically raava a new raava since the original died? I also thought that the later avatars got the short end of the stick b/c now their first avatar is her and they lost avatar wan and aang. A pretty big deal breaker if you ask me

 

[Toa TAK]

you mean earth hitler?

She was the Hitler they needed bro. Would've done great things if it weren't for the Avatar...

But agreed about the villains, though Zuko got better once they started to blur the lines with him and Azula only really got to crack at the finale. Also Ozai is a looooooow bar.

 

[Cipher Peon]

Was it ever explained why Korra went into the Avatar state after she lost connection to her past lives? I thought the Avatar state was used to gain the powers and knowledge of all of the other Avatars to kick butt, but if she lost the connection... sounds like it would be a giant waste of time.

Also as much as the show is disastrously written... it still has a place in my heart (begrudgingly). Even with the worst romances in any show I've ever seen (except for Bolin and the Ice Princess, they were perfect for each other and then he left her for a person with the personality of a cardboard box wtf)

 

[Septimus Prime]

also isnt technically raava a new raava since the original died?

I think so, but it's a little vague, since Raava and Vaatu also tell Wan that technically they can't really destroy each other. Sure looked like Vaatu destroyed Raava, though.

Was it ever explained why Korra went into the Avatar state after she lost connection to her past lives? I thought the Avatar state was used to gain the powers and knowledge of all of the other Avatars to kick butt, but if she lost the connection... sounds like it would be a giant waste of time.

My understanding is that the power boost and access to all elements comes from connecting with Raava. The past lives' experience is just a huge bonus.

 

[L4DANathan]

By book 3/4 she has matured a fuck ton so not really.

I'm sorry, what? Her character development cycle in every season is the exact same. Makes brash, stupid decision -> Denies it was a stupid decision -> Admits it was a stupid decision -> Learns lesson for the season. Then she forgets the lesson so she can make another very similar stupid decision again in the next season. Writing for Korra was shit-tier.

 

[aly]

I like to pretend Legend of Korra never happened.

Me too, but I actually liked season 1. So I pretend it cut off right there and forget the awfulness of Korra and Kuvira.

 

[Lord Panda]

I still feel so bummed about what the writers did to Korra and the show. Pandering and illogical writing and a main character that I mostly detested.

 

[JadedWriter]

Me too, but I actually liked season 1. So I pretend it cut off right there and forget the awfulness of Korra and Kuvira.

Korra and Kuvira is the best ship and you know it.

 

[Theanine3D]

Easily my biggest disappointment with the show. All that lore built up since The Last Airbender, destroyed in an instant. I can't believe they never reversed it somehow.

 

[JadedWriter]

Easily my biggest disappointment with the show. All that lore built up since The Last Airbender, destroyed in an instant. I can't believe they never reversed it somehow.

That's because Korra never found a lion turtle.

 

[GamingOblivion]

Easily my biggest disappointment with the show. All that lore built up since The Last Airbender, destroyed in an instant. I can't believe they never reversed it somehow.

Who says it was destroyed? It still exists. If a third show ever happened (which it wouldn't) nothing is stopping them from making it take place before Aang's time. Literally the only thing that happened with the death of the Avatar line is Korra's inability to call upon them.

The lore still exists. I don't understand why everyone is failing basic comprehension of this concept.

 

[heliosRAzi]

You can't look at TLA's conflict as coming from one person, though. TLA didn't thrive on its main villain. It thrived on its entire villain family, and the conflict that fought within the hearts of its members. You can call Ozai simplistic, but that family was more compelling than any singular villain that ever appeared in Korra.

Zuko and Azula were the most compelling, but Ozai was pretty one dimensional. He just wanted power for power's sake. Now, one dimensional villains aren't all bad. But I liked the villains in LoK for what they represent. Amon is about equality. The Red Lotus is all about anarchy and dismantling the basic premise of the show. Kuvira is a fascist. I skipped over Unalaaq (if that's the right one) because I don't remember much of Book 2.

All that and these villains were awesome benders with great and interesting abilities.

But man, this makes me want to watch it all over again.

 

[Lord Virgin]

I miss the Avatar series

 

[Flandy]

Completely unrelated but reading this thread reminded how crazy people got in the Book 4 OT.
Good times

 

[VendettaRed07]

I dunno. They were obviously not thinking clearly at all with almost any story decisions they made that season. So who knows.

 

[Tal Shiar Agent]

also isnt technically raava a new raava since the original died? I also thought that the later avatars got the short end of the stick b/c now their first avatar is her and they lost avatar wan and aang. A pretty big deal breaker if you ask me

No, Raava and Vaatu are opposing natural forces, one cannot be destroyed, only forced into dormancy. Vaatu weakened Raava enough that she couldn't maintain her form and was absorbed into Vaatu. By the time of the next Harmonic Convergence Raava will have gained enough strength to break free from Vaatu and they'd be locked in perpetual combat again.

So in 10,000 years Vaatu will be freed from the Avatar, whoever they are by then.

 

[sixteen-bit]

I miss the Avatar series

I just finished a week ago and I feel the same

 

[Atraveller]

Completely unrelated but reading this thread reminded how crazy people got in the Book 4 OT.
Good times

All downhills after episode 2.

 

[Huge Succeeded]

Nope.

Man, Korra was just a mess of poor decisions

 

[oti]

I liked that. Showed the writers weren't afraid of changing the status quo. And I'm still waiting for those comics.

 

[A-V-B]

Easily my biggest disappointment with the show. All that lore built up since The Last Airbender, destroyed in an instant.

Total shot in the dark so I could be wrong, but I bet Aaron Ehasz watching that show was like Bryan Singer watching Last Stand. Like, damn, I worked on all that and it's gone now. No bad feelings towards the creators, but a sense of... damn, you know?

 

[WrenchNinja]

Nope, Bryan and Mike thought it was such a great idea to cut her off from the past lives she barely got to talk to

Fuck season 2

 

[irfaanator]

I think so, but it's a little vague, since Raava and Vaatu also tell Wan that technically they can't really destroy each other. Sure looked like Vaatu destroyed Raava, though.


My understanding is that the power boost and access to all elements comes from connecting with Raava. The past lives' experience is just a huge bonus.

No, Raava and Vaatu are opposing natural forces, one cannot be destroyed, only forced into dormancy. Vaatu weakened Raava enough that she couldn't maintain her form and was absorbed into Vaatu. By the time of the next Harmonic Convergence Raava will have gained enough strength to break free from Vaatu and they'd be locked in perpetual combat again.

So in 10,000 years Vaatu will be freed from the Avatar, whoever they are by then.

that makes more sense

 

[JadedWriter]

I miss the Avatar series

I miss the Avatar waifus.

Completely unrelated but reading this thread reminded how crazy people got in the Book 4 OT.
Good times

I have said so much obscene random bullshit in that thread. If I'm anything I'm consistently perverted.

 

[Flandy]

All downhills after episode 2.

That thread started to get weird after book 2 tbh.

Spoiler

After a certain someone posted hentai

 

[JadedWriter]

That thread started to get weird after book 2 tbh.

Spoiler

After a certain someone posted hentai

What the hell ever happened to that person? She was actually pretty nice.

 

[Dr. Buni]

No, he just lost his connection to the avatar state.

He could still communicate with his past lives.

I never understood this past lives thing. I always assumed the past avatars were different people, because otherwise how can Korra interact with Aang (example), if they are same person who lived in different times? That or the concept of past lives is completely different in Avatar.

 

[Flandy]

What the hell ever happened to that person? She was actually pretty nice.

Ask them yourself
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/member.php?u=96698

 

[NipplesAndToes23]

I miss the Avatar series

Me too. I dipped back again a few months ago. I love Legend of Korra so much.

 

[Geist-]

Sorry, I haven't follow Avatar news in a long time, did something happen that makes a third series impossible? I've seen it mentioned a few times in this thread.

 

[JadedWriter]

Sorry, I haven't follow Avatar news in a long time, did something happen that makes a third series impossible? I've seen it mentioned a few times in this thread.

Ratings were in the toilet.

 

[Zapages]

Sorry, I haven't follow Avatar news in a long time, did something happen that makes a third series impossible? I've seen it mentioned a few times in this thread.

Ratings were terrible... Nick treated it worse than any other show ever due its "mature" ideas.

Also the creators are working on Voltron: Legendary Defender.

 

[aly]

Korra and Kuvira is the best ship and you know it.

They are. They should've sailed away together in a romance of awfulness.

 

[GamingOblivion]

Total shot in the dark so I could be wrong, but I bet Aaron Ehasz watching that show was like Bryan Singer watching Last Stand. Like, damn, I worked on all that and it's gone now. No bad feelings towards the creators, but a sense of... damn, you know?

it still exists you silly person you

Sorry, I haven't follow Avatar news in a long time, did something happen that makes a third series impossible? I've seen it mentioned a few times in this thread.

Don't listen to the others in this thread. Ratings isn't what is making the series impossible, its Mike and Bryan's need and want to move on to new projects.