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[BigBooper]

I've been wanting a new game like this this year, but how it typically goes is a new game comes out that everyone's praising and I start playing it and . Most games that get the kind of praise this has gotten end up that way for me somehow.

What do you that have been playing it think? Is it all it's cracked up to be?

 

[Spukc]

it looks poop

 

[DunDunDunpachi]

Fancy poop you say?

 

[kraspkibble]

it's OK not to like it ykno.

if you try it out and haven't liked it then just move on. don't cry and moan about it.

 

[BigBooper]

Fancy poop you say?

See, now that looks like guaranteed fun.

 

[BigBooper]

it's OK not to like it ykno.

if you try it out and haven't liked it then just move on. don't cry and moan about it.

Yea, but I always cry when I waste money. I try to buy everything from GOG, but I guess I could abuse the Steam refund to give it a try. I don't like to do that though.

 

[Spukc]

Yea, but I always cry when I waste money. I try to buy everything from GOG, but I guess I could abuse the Steam refund to give it a try. I don't like to do that though.

it's ok just ignore the dev that tries to keep his head above the water and had to explain little timmy that they have to return his xmas presents.

 

[Katsura]

it's ok just ignore the dev that tries to keep his head above the water and had to explain little timmy that they have to return his xmas presents.

The devs of this particular game promoted communism at a recent game awards event so i'm sure they're ok with not getting any money from their game

 

[Spukc]

The devs of this particular game promoted communism at a recent game awards event so i'm sure they're ok with not getting any money from their game

that's the spirit! all for the greater good

 

[RavageX]

I have tried the game and personally liked it a bit, kept me interested. Dunno about the long haul though.

 

[MisterBrimstone]

top tier game

 

[hariseldon]

It’s a fantastic game, dunks on all ideologies including communism, has amazing writing with wonderful memorable characters and meaningfully pushes the RPG genre forward.

 

[Dee Dah Dave]

I made it through the first door then turned it off

 

[Shifty]

It's fucking excellent if you enjoy a good detective novel.

Might not be your jam otherwise.

The devs of this particular game promoted communism at a recent game awards event so i'm sure they're ok with not getting any money from their game

Fuck that, it's the most politically-neutral political game that's come out in years. Who gives a toss what the developer's views are if their work is good and avoids bias?

 

[Danjin44]

I've been wanting a new game like this this year, but how it typically goes is a new game comes out that everyone's praising and I start playing it and . Most games that get the kind of praise this has gotten end up that way for me somehow.

What do you that have been playing it think? Is it all it's cracked up to be?

Doesn't matter what game don't buy base on everyone else is hyping, most of the time it leads to disappointment. Do your research and see what the game is all about before buying, I personally hype a game based on what I myself see from the game not from other people.

 

[Ivory Blood]

It's good. It's not really an RPG, more of a visual novel, but still - the writing, characters and setting are unparalleled.

 

[Fuz]

Oh god, again with the retarded "communism" argument.

 

[Tipton32]

I’m enjoying it enough. It’s like D&D but the DM knows what its doing.

 

[Senua]

It's the best rpg in donkeys years

 

[HaveButOneLife]

In the last thread, and I don't remember the user so hopefully they come back to this thread, but somebody mentioned that the whole communism thing was all tongue in cheek from the devs, I wonder how true that is?

 

[Katsura]

It's fucking excellent if you enjoy a good detective novel.

Might not be your jam otherwise.


Fuck that, it's the most politically-neutral political game that's come out in years. Who gives a toss what the developer's views are if their work is good and avoids bias?

Did you notice i didn't speak on the game's quality at all? That's because i haven't played it. Strange that you would jump in to defend the game from a non existent attack don't you think?

 

[MMaRsu]

insanely great

 

[Karak]

I adore it. Often times hilarious and for me just not like a lot of other titles out there.
I also love that they take the piss out of literally everything but somehow make it make sense in their warped world.

 

[V4skunk]

Don't buy it!
The devs support communism.
Get woke go broke.

 

[Katsura]

In the last thread, and I don't remember the user so hopefully they come back to this thread, but somebody mentioned that the whole communism thing was all tongue in cheek from the devs, I wonder how true that is?

Judge for yourself


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[Afro Republican]

I had too look up what this was, it looks like a very hard to look at overhead flash game. I guess the artstyle or assets don't work well with my eyes for some reason.

 

[BigBooper]

It's good. It's not really an RPG, more of a visual novel, but still - the writing, characters and setting are unparalleled.

Thanks everyone. This comment definitely means I'll try it with Steam's refund. If anyone can describe as like a visual novel, it's probably more likely not for me.

 

[Bootzilla]

It's really, really well written and original. It's Capital R Role-playing in the classic sense and it does that really well. There's not much gameplay outside of that, no real combat, and not a lot in the way of production value, but what it does, it does well.

I disagree with the visual novel comparison, because VNs tend to be hyper-linear and this one is still fundamentally systems based, even if there's no combat. It gives you choices, reacts to those choices, and has stats-driven systems under the hood that affect those outcomes. It's very much an RPG, but maybe more in the tabeltop sense than most video games.

 

[Bootzilla]

The devs of this particular game promoted communism at a recent game awards event so i'm sure they're ok with not getting any money from their game

Someone's belief that we should have a different system is thin premise to steal from them in this one.

It's like playing a soccer match against the USA and saying "If you're such a football fan, you won't mind if I grab the ball with my hands and run into your goalie and give myself 6 points." That's not the game we're playing.

 

[Katsura]

Someone's belief that we should have a different system is thin premise to steal from them in this one.

It's like playing a soccer match against the USA and saying "If you're such a football fan, you won't mind if I grab the ball with my hands and run into your goalie and give myself 6 points." That's not the game we're playing.

1. Piracy is not stealing
2. Using the Steam refund feature is perfectly valid and legal
3. They're promoting a system in which everyone is supposed to be equal, as in equality of outcome not opportunity, and where the people distribute all resources among them. How can someone who supports a system like that sell a game and keep the resources for themselves?

Also, your analogy is just about the worst analogy i've seen in a while

 

[Bootzilla]

3. They're promoting a system in which everyone is supposed to be equal, as in equality of outcome not opportunity, and where the people distribute all resources among them. How can someone who supports a system like that sell a game and keep the resources for themselves?

Right, but we don't have that system. If we did, the game would be free. But since we don't, it's not. You can't have it both ways.

There's nothing hypocritcal about a person forced to live in a capitalist system earning money and making a living, even if they believe an egalitarian system would be better.

There is something hypocritcal about someone who claims to believe in capitalism thinking they shouldn't have to pay for shit if they disagree with the person selling it.

 

[Katsura]

Right, but we don't have that system. If we did, the game would be free. But since we don't, so it's not. You can't have it both ways.

There's nothing hypocritcal about a person forced to live in a capitalist system earning money and making a living, even if they believe an egalitarian system would be better.

There is something hypocritcal about someone who claims to believe in capitalism thinking they shouldn't have to pay for shit.

Everything about them is hypocritical. They should lead by example, not embrace the system they hate. Also, you can believe in free market capitalism and be against the current copyright system which is anything but free market. It's been warped into a monstrosity by the likes of Disney for years now and i'd argue it actually goes against the free market. By the way, this thread is not about me and i'm sure OP would appreciate you not derailing it with your juvenile attempts at personal attacks

 

[Shifty]

Did you notice i didn't speak on the game's quality at all? That's because i haven't played it. Strange that you would jump in to defend the game from a non existent attack don't you think?

Did you notice the part where I called you out for your Communism Derangement Syndrome shitposting, rather than any posited judgement on the game's quality? Go post in brap's thread if you want to prattle on about that.

Everything about them is hypocritical. They should lead by example, not embrace the system they hate. Also, you can believe in free market capitalism and be against the current copyright system which is anything but free market. It's been warped into a monstrosity by the likes of Disney for years now and i'd argue it actually goes against the free market. Also, this thread is not about me and i'm sure OP would appreciate you not derailing it with your juvenile attempts at personal attacks

You seem to have missed the part where it's massively hypocritical to use principle as a shield when said principle is being applied in a single case specifically because you disagree with the developer's political views.

You have to live that principle top-to-bottom if you want to parade around shitting up topics that ask "is this a good game?" with unrelated nonsense about what the developer said at TGA, comrade.

 

[Katsura]

Did you notice the part where I called you out for your Communism Derangement Syndrome shitposting, rather than any posited judgement on the game's quality?


You seem to have missed the part where it's massively hypocritical to use principle as a shield when said principle is being applied in a single case specifically because you disagree with the developer's political views.

You have to live that principle top-to-bottom if you want to parade around shitting up topics that ask "is this a good game?" with unrelated nonsense about what the developer said at GDC, comrade.

That's not what you did though. Stop getting aggressive because you can't remember what you wrote, which was completely unrelated to what i posted. If you meant something else, perhaps you should work on your communication abilities

As someone who has travelled extensively in communist countries and seen first hand the effects of the system these moronic millennials are promoting, i can assure you it should be relevant to anyone with a hint of integrity. Also, i wonder if you'd feel the same had they thanked Goebbels. Somehow i doubt it

 

[Bootzilla]

Everything about them is hypocritical. They should lead by example, not embrace the system they hate.

Communism is by definition a collective system. 3 people can't just decide to go be communist. It has to be everybody.

If you and the makers of a game are both members of a communist society, then you can get the game for free. Until then, what you are saying really makes no sense and just sounds like a desperate attempt to rationalize being shitty to someone out of spite for their politcs.

Also, you can believe in free market capitalism and be against the current copyright system which is anything but free market. It's been warped into a monstrosity by the likes of Disney for years now and i'd argue it actually goes against the free market. By the way, this thread is not about me and i'm sure OP would appreciate you not derailing it with your juvenile attempts at personal attacks

So there's a lot wrong with copyright law, but are you honestly telling me someone shouldn't be allowed to hold the copyright on a brand new work they just released? Are you actually saying that, or are you just trolling? Come on.

 

[Katsura]

Communism is by definition a collective system. 3 people can't just decide to go be communist. It has to be everybody.

If you and the makers of a game are both members of a communist society, then you can get the game for free. Until then, what you are saying really makes no sense and just sounds like a desperate attempt to rationalize being shitty to someone out of spite for their politcs.


So there's a lot wrong with copyright law, but are you honestly telling me someone shouldn't be allowed to hold the copyright on a brand new work they just released? Are you actually saying that, or are you just trolling? Come on.

Oh so they're free to be giant hypocrites until they've staged a violent revolution and forced their ideology on everyone else? Yea, sorry, i don't buy that at all

Regarding copyright, that's not what i'm saying at all. You're the one who brought up copyright and i responded. I never brought it up in my first post. What is it with you people and your lack of reading comprehension?

 

[Bootzilla]

Oh so they're free to be giant hypocrites until they've staged a violent revolution and forced their ideology on everyone else? Yea, sorry, i don't buy that at all

So they should just make things for free and wait for their check from the government even though the government doesn't give them a check because they live in a capitalist country? Is that it? Come on, man. I'm not trying to pick a fight but you really aren't being reasonable.

Buy the game or don't, I really don't care. Just stop trying to rationalize it.

 

[Katsura]

So they should just make things for free and wait for their check from the government even though the government doesn't give them a check because they live in a capitalist country? Is that it? Come on, man. I'm not trying to pick a fight but you really aren't being reasonable.

Buy the game or don't, I really don't care. Just stop trying to rationalize it.

For someone not trying to pick a fight, you sure seem to make a lot of posts on the subject. No, they're not supposed to wait on the government check. They're supposed to understand that in a communist system they would have never been allowed to make the game let alone have the computers and software needed to make it and then wise up and stop promoting one of the worst ideologies ever conceived

 

[Shifty]

That's not what you did though. Stop getting aggressive because you can't remember what you wrote, which was completely unrelated to what i posted. If you meant something else, perhaps you should work on your communication abilities

Trying to demean my communication abilities because you're on the back foot, classy.

OP asked if the game was worthwhile, you planted your 'devs bad' flag and I called you out for it. Not sure which part of this you're failing to grasp here.

As someone who has travelled extensively in communist countries and seen first hand the effects of the system these moronic millennials are promoting, i can assure you it should be relevant to anyone with a hint of integrity. Also, i wonder if you'd feel the same had they thanked Goebbels. Somehow i doubt it

Yes, you have such integrity for making a stand about not buying somebody's videogame because they expressed communist views on a public stage.

Are you missing the point of this thread being about the quality of the game, rather than your beef with the people who made it? The game does not promote communism, ergo your schtick is off-topic nonsense.

 

[888]

It certainly has some high class vocabulary for some of us simple folk. But I’ve laughed hard a few times in the first 2 hours. My guy is losing his mind and it’s hilarious. The only complaint I have is the art style. But other than that it’s been pretty cool so far.

 

[Bootzilla]

They're supposed to understand that in a communist system they would have never been allowed to make the game let alone have the computers and software needed to make it and then wise up and stop promoting one of the worst ideologies ever conceived

Look, man, I think anarchy is retarded but I'm not stealing my copy of Watchmen because I think Alan Moore is naive,

Also, communist countries have arts and media, dude. Like, come on.

 

[Katsura]

Trying to demean my communication abilities because you're on the back foot, classy.

OP asked if the game was worthwhile, you planted your 'devs bad' flag and I called you out for it. Not sure which part of this you're failing to grasp here.


Yes, you have such integrity for making a stand about not buying somebody's videogame because they expressed communist views on a public stage.

Are you missing the point of this thread being about the quality of the game, rather than your beef with the people who made it? The game does not promote communism, ergo your schtick is off-topic nonsense.

On my back foot? That's hillarious. You made a fool of yourself because you couldn't even reference your own post correctly and then you became aggressive when you realized it. Too funny

As for the rest, i made a cheeky comment as a response to another poster. That's it yet you're screeching about it. Quite the overreaction. Also, my 'schtick' is not off-topic. They decided to highlight their massive ignorance in relation to this game. It's only fair to make people aware that the devs support one of the worst ideologies in the history of mankind. One that's responsible for more deaths than probably any other ideology. The fact that you can't handle criticism of that is strange but ultimately not my problem

 

[HaveButOneLife]

Judge for yourself


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Naw I saw the video, I mean during interviews or exhibiting SJW commie behavior.

 

[Katsura]

Look, man, I think anarchy is retarded but I'm not stealing my copy of Watchmen because I think Alan Moore is naive,

Also, communist countries have arts and media, dude. Like, come on.

And you think anyone get to do what they want in a communist regime? You seem very ignorant on how communism work. I have seen it and i know the conditions people live under. Unless you have too, i can't see any reason to argue this point with you as you have no real frame of reference. Now are we done? Or do you have more posts where you're absolutely not trying to pick a fight but keep doing it anyway?

 

[Katsura]

Naw I saw the video, I mean during interviews or exhibiting SJW commie behavior.

I have no idea about that. I haven't followed the game since i had no interest in it before knowing anything about the devs

 

[Rean no Kiseki]

Neogaf, we don't talk about video games here but we sure do talk about what their developers have said once in a public event.

 

[ethomaz]

Good not.

Great.

GOTY runner up.

 

[Shifty]

On my back foot? That's hillarious. You made a fool of yourself because you couldn't even reference your own post correctly and then you became aggressive when you realized it. Too funny

In my experience posters tend to start pulling all sorts of wacky nonsense out of their backside when they're on the back foot, and you're no exception. Keep reaching.

Also, my 'schtick' is not off-topic. They decided to highlight their massive ignorance in relation to this game. It's only fair to make people aware that the devs support one of the worst ideologies in the history of mankind. One that's responsible for more deaths than probably any other ideology. The fact that you can't handle criticism of that is strange but ultimately not my problem

Oh I see, you're one of those posters who thinks their PSA is relevant because they feel really strongly about it. That's reminiscent of the old pre-meltdown crowd hopping into a thread to drop a character assassination about [thread topic] and derail the whole thing into a total mess, much like you've managed to do here.

I have no idea about that. I haven't followed the game since i had no interest in it before knowing anything about the devs

What a shocker. No interest in the game itself, but you're quite happy to honk these loud political noises in a discussion that is ostensibly about the game itself.

 

[Bootzilla]

And you think anyone get to do what they want in a communist regime? You seem very ignorant on how communism work. I have seen it and i know the conditions people live under. Unless you have too, i can't see any reason to argue this point with you as you have no real frame of reference. Now are we done? Or do you have more posts where you're absolutely not trying to pick a fight but keep doing it anyway?

I am not advocating for communism, I'm just noting that there were wonderful works of film and literature that came out of the soviet era, you can't simply say "games wouldn't exist." Comminism produced some pretty interesting art by removing the commercial concerns from the equation.

I'm a capitalist, FWIW, but it probably bears mentioning that years of weaponized fear of communism in US politics have pushed the country to the right of true capitalism, and drifting toward post-capitalist oligopoly. The sad irony is that if the US doesn't move back toward the center (i.e. somewhat more socialist than it is now), it will cease to have a functioning system in which people can compete for capital.

But I digress. Disco Elysium is a pretty dope game that takes itself way less seriously than either of us seem to be.

 

[Katsura]

In my experience posters tend to start pulling all sorts of wacky nonsense out of their backside when they're on the back foot, and you're no exception. Keep reaching.


Oh I see, you're one of those posters who thinks their PSA is relevant because they feel really strongly about it. That's reminiscent of the old pre-meltdown crowd hopping into a thread to drop a character assassination about [thread topic] and derail the whole thing into a total mess, much like you've managed to do here.


What a shocker. No interest in the game itself, but you're quite happy to honk these loud political noises in a discussion that is ostensibly about the game itself.

Yea, i'm sure those 3 lines you wrote about the game totally gives you the high ground in your world. Do you not see the irony here? I guess not. Anyway, did you actually have a point or are you just upset i dared speak out against communism?