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Is Doctor Doom unbeatable with the right amount of prep?

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I don't know anything about comics, but from my time watching 90s X-Men I remember Apocalypse being super powerful. I recall them only being able to slow him down, never outright defeat.

Old blue lips is a paper tiger. His powers and resources he should be damn near unbeatable. But nah
 
Did they ever explain in the comics why Apocalypse didn't take over earth 2-3 thousand years ago when he first found the Celestial tech?
 
Did they ever explain in the comics why Apocalypse didn't take over earth 2-3 thousand years ago when he first found the Celestial tech?

well, he sort of did. Apocalypse was worshipped as a king/god by more than a few ancient civilizations. But what he actually wanted to do was observe humanity until the mutant gene hits critical mass and mutants become common, THEN reveal himself and start the whole "survival of the fittest" business so earth will survive the return of the celestial host.

He almost did this in the 19th century, but had his plans ruined by a combination of sinister and a time traveling cyclops and phoenix.
 
Miller's writing aside, Hal Jordan has always been written as extremely underwhelming, given what the ring can actually do. The whole "going evil and turning into parallax" thing was the one time where you FINALLY saw what the ring was really capable of.

And it wasin of the most widely regarded comic book shit shows of all time. Dude can't win. Hal cannot win, he gets the shit movie, his girlfriend is al.... eh and the star Sapphire, and then eh again. He can't be cool by himself because every time he is in a thing everyone wants jon. And Kyle gets to be a damn super saiyan.

Hal is just eh...


I think we're getting off topic about just how awesome Dr. Doom is.

You can find him in the next day classes the villain in the back with the x-ray glasses.
 
That also. BP flies under the radar of a lot of comic fans, but is a great character.

Batman's reputation is drastically out of proportion to what he actually DOES in his own books, prep time or no.

As far as marvel goes, Bruce would have an easy time with similar street level heroes like daredevil or moon knight, struggle a bit with punisher, get dominated more often than not by Cap and anyone above that would take him to the cleaners on a fairly regular basis.

moon knight no doubt. im not so sure with daredevil though.
 
I think we're getting off topic about just how awesome Dr. Doom is.

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Bonus: Little Valeria says her first word

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Did they ever explain in the comics why Apocalypse didn't take over earth 2-3 thousand years ago when he first found the Celestial tech?

Poccy is a thug that literally fell into celestial tech. He thinks he is smarter than he really is, his biggest win was a cosmic accident.
 
see?

this is the kind of BS i was talking about when i said that Wakanda is a Mary Suetopia!

Pretty much why I dread reading anything involving it or BP. Its now the comic equivalent of that kid who always had the invisible laser proof armor, and a pet T-rex.
 
Pretty much why I dread reading anything involving it or BP. Its now the comic equivalent of that kid who always had the invisible laser proof armor, and a pet T-rex.

except that their major source of revenue has been destroyed and their nation flooded by an asshole.
 
well she is his au daughter through a confusing means of franklin and time travel. of course they would have some sort connection
 
Also I love, "And what has he done now?"

Like they just have an understanding that Reed is a screw-up.
 
They still hang out sometimes.



"UNCLE DOOM"

Oooh, I bet Reed Richards is just burning up inside every single time he sees Valeria and Doom in a room together.

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Reed:All the kids like him because of his green robes, and his magic, and his nation, and he makes the hipidy hop music

Sue: Pause.

Reed: huh?

Sue: Did you just say that Doom makes music, more importantly did you just say hippidy hop music?

Reed: Yes and Yes.

Sue: *disappointing sigh*

Reed: What's wrong?

Sue: Reconsidering life decisions.
 
well she is his au daughter through a confusing means of franklin and time travel. of course they would have some sort connection

If you are talking about that run with teen Valeria by Chris Claremont in the 90s, they revealed at the end that she was Reed's daughter. Reed defeated Doom, and was stuck in his armor for some reason I don't remember. In the alternate reality, he just kept being Doom.


Doom didn't come off too well in his last meeting with Reed. Basically got told to shut his mouth and mind his own business by Reed and Doc Strange when he caught a glimpse of what the Illuminati had been up to.

 
Hickman loves him some Doom I'm looking forward to seeing what he does with him next.

I don't know. However, I was flipping through the first couple of issues of New Avengers today, and realized that pretty much every panel in the flash forward scene from issue 2 hasn't happened yet. I guess Infinity is just a pit stop in that story.
 
It always seems like when this question is asked, it's always going to be this Marvel character can defeat any other Marvel character. In the end, any Marvel character can defeat any other Marvel character, no matter how powerful, due to stuff 'n' plot. I'm sure even the weakest Marvel hero/villain could somehow manage to take down the Living Tribunal.
 
Doom was basically God, made his own people, rules and laws combined of science and magic.

Guess what happened, his creations turned on him. He got bailed out of it.
 
Old blue lips is a paper tiger. His powers and resources he should be damn near unbeatable. But nah

Though there are many timelines where he does rule the world. This is one of the many reasons I loved the old Age of Apocalypse arc. A universe that actually runs in a timeline where he rules with a gruesome fist.That was such a dark hopeless series which I believe gave it some really compelling stories. I love the magneto/rogue and logan/jean relationships in that.
 
who has the best robot army

dr. doom because whenever you think he's dead it was really a robot
batman's brother eye/omac army
superman's who are all supermans except robots
ultron but then you have to wonder if any character-based robots are stronger than ultron
 
who has the best robot army

dr. doom because whenever you think he's dead it was really a robot
batman's brother eye/omac army
superman's who are all supermans except robots
ultron but then you have to wonder if any character-based robots are stronger than ultron

I think the bolded wins.
 
I think the bolded wins.

who has the best robot army

dr. doom because whenever you think he's dead it was really a robot
batman's brother eye/omac army
superman's who are all supermans except robots
ultron but then you have to wonder if any character-based robots are stronger than ultron

But Batman didn't create the OMACs, That was Maxwell Lord, Batman pretty much lost control of Brother Eye after it launched.
 
I wonder if Doom's plans at some point have included the extinction of squirrels... It would make sense to address a past failure, but maybe the side-effects would be too undesirable?...
 
I wonder if Doom's plans at some point have included the extinction of squirrels... It would make sense to address a past failure, but maybe the side-effects would be too undesirable?...

I could imagine someone hacking into doom's super computer and finding the

"eradication of squirrels experiment"

was described as

" defeating satanic creatures from the neather realm"

Status:Suspended until a suitable animal in to replace the squirrel in the food chain was found.

Located in the long term revenge strategy folder.
 
......Who's squirrel girl and why was doctor doom afraid of her?

Squirrel Girl, for most intents and purposes, is Marvel's joke Mary-sue character. She's not only beaten Doom, but also Thanos, Fucking Thanos. She was made as a joke who tried to join the fantastic four. A mutant with squirrel powers.
 
Out of all world conquerors, I think Doom would be the least bad.

Remember that time Black Panther had a safe or room or something that was spiritually sealed by the Panther spirit, and the spirit let Doom through because Doom honestly believed the only possible way for the world to survive was under his rule?

Doom was like, "I've run the projections over and over, and the only way things don't get super terrible is if I run this."
 
Remember that time Black Panther had a safe or room or something that was spiritually sealed by the Panther spirit, and the spirit let Doom through because Doom honestly believed the only possible way for the world to survive was under his rule?

Doom was like, "I've run the projections over and over, and the only way things don't get super terrible is if I run this."

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