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Is EA's "Skate" franchise dead?

I'm surprised to see so many negative comments about Skate 3. What did it do wrong? I was going to pick it up eventually.

The original skate. demo was so much fun to replay, it sold me on the game even though I don't give a damn about skateboarding. The Skate 2 demo was really bad and unpleasant to look at, so I skipped that one. Based on the demos, Skate 3 seemed like an improvement. Hmm.
 
The problem with 2 was the security guards chasing you down when you're trying to set up and the S-K-A-T-E challenge types where you had to reproduce the same trick as the AI. Those 2 things NOT being in 3 made 3 the better game for me.
 
Skate is my favorite game of all time, closely followed by 2, then 3 just shit me. It felt more Hawkish in look and feel, where as the first skate really captured the essence of skating with 'ok, here's a board, there are your feet, and here's a community centre. Do what you will.'.

That sense of freedom hasn't been felt with any game before, ever. A true skateboarding 'toy'. Your sense of creativity made the depth of the game, and that was amazing and the simple to play but hard to master gameplay was great.

Additions to the trick roster for 2 was great, but the game felt less connected to the ground, and the environment wasn't anywhere near as good. 3 felt worse, with worse environments. Hardcore mode kind of made the physics less fun and too janky instead of realistic.

If they make a 4, which I hope like fuck they do one day, they need to concentrate on the basics.

- fuck a story. If you must have one, your a skater, you get sponsored, get your footage into videos and make the videos and footage a more tangible part of the 'story mode'. Like you really have to work for your footage, and build up a part then put the part together for your video.

- physics, nail the shit out of them. I don't want to feel like I can dwarf the environment, I want to feel like i'm conquering it from a simple grind on a curb, an ollie over a gap or a huge rail.

- Aesthetics - Skate 1 had the best look and feel, and they should push back to that, instead of the overly 'primary' look of 3.

- Trick List: It's fine, maybe make the trick list customisable for fools who want 'mullen' tricks & do more with catching tricks.

- Dynamic Weather & Night Skating - Even if it's just an option, this would be cool. That said, doing good night environments in a video game for skating always looks shit, just look at the After Dark DLC for 3. Fuck that.

- Online - ONE THING! Have a Spot Mode, where you can just pick a spot and choose a 'camera' to hang with friends at a marker at a spot and all just skate it. Watch your buddy try a trick, have your turn swap and try to up him, or just session it. That'd be great.

- Environment - Keep it less skateparky, and more like 1, where you had to find your spots. Have parks around the city, more backyard miniramps, pools are cool, more secret bits and pieces.

- Ramp Skating - LIP MODIFIER!! Hit the Shoulder Button to lock onto a lip trick. Popping blunts, 5-0 fakies, proper footplants & lip slides. That's the big one right there, that'd rule.
 
POWERSPHERE said:
Skate is my favorite game of all time, closely followed by 2, then 3 just shit me. It felt more Hawkish in look and feel, where as the first skate really captured the essence of skating with 'ok, here's a board, there are your feet, and here's a community centre. Do what you will.'.

That sense of freedom hasn't been felt with any game before, ever. A true skateboarding 'toy'. Your sense of creativity made the depth of the game, and that was amazing and the simple to play but hard to master gameplay was great.

Additions to the trick roster for 2 was great, but the game felt less connected to the ground, and the environment wasn't anywhere near as good. 3 felt worse, with worse environments. Hardcore mode kind of made the physics less fun and too janky instead of realistic.

If they make a 4, which I hope like fuck they do one day, they need to concentrate on the basics.

- fuck a story. If you must have one, your a skater, you get sponsored, get your footage into videos and make the videos and footage a more tangible part of the 'story mode'. Like you really have to work for your footage, and build up a part then put the part together for your video.

- physics, nail the shit out of them. I don't want to feel like I can dwarf the environment, I want to feel like i'm conquering it from a simple grind on a curb, an ollie over a gap or a huge rail.

- Aesthetics - Skate 1 had the best look and feel, and they should push back to that, instead of the overly 'primary' look of 3.

- Trick List: It's fine, maybe make the trick list customisable for fools who want 'mullen' tricks & do more with catching tricks.

- Dynamic Weather & Night Skating - Even if it's just an option, this would be cool. That said, doing good night environments in a video game for skating always looks shit, just look at the After Dark DLC for 3. Fuck that.

- Online - ONE THING! Have a Spot Mode, where you can just pick a spot and choose a 'camera' to hang with friends at a marker at a spot and all just skate it. Watch your buddy try a trick, have your turn swap and try to up him, or just session it. That'd be great.

- Environment - Keep it less skateparky, and more like 1, where you had to find your spots. Have parks around the city, more backyard miniramps, pools are cool, more secret bits and pieces.

- Ramp Skating - LIP MODIFIER!! Hit the Shoulder Button to lock onto a lip trick. Popping blunts, 5-0 fakies, proper footplants & lip slides. That's the big one right there, that'd rule.


Wow, you nailed it!
 
POWERSPHERE said:
Skate is my favorite game of all time, closely followed by 2, then 3 just shit me. It felt more Hawkish in look and feel, where as the first skate really captured the essence of skating with 'ok, here's a board, there are your feet, and here's a community centre. Do what you will.'.

That sense of freedom hasn't been felt with any game before, ever. A true skateboarding 'toy'. Your sense of creativity made the depth of the game, and that was amazing and the simple to play but hard to master gameplay was great.

Additions to the trick roster for 2 was great, but the game felt less connected to the ground, and the environment wasn't anywhere near as good. 3 felt worse, with worse environments. Hardcore mode kind of made the physics less fun and too janky instead of realistic.

If they make a 4, which I hope like fuck they do one day, they need to concentrate on the basics.

- fuck a story. If you must have one, your a skater, you get sponsored, get your footage into videos and make the videos and footage a more tangible part of the 'story mode'. Like you really have to work for your footage, and build up a part then put the part together for your video.

- physics, nail the shit out of them. I don't want to feel like I can dwarf the environment, I want to feel like i'm conquering it from a simple grind on a curb, an ollie over a gap or a huge rail.

- Aesthetics - Skate 1 had the best look and feel, and they should push back to that, instead of the overly 'primary' look of 3.

- Trick List: It's fine, maybe make the trick list customisable for fools who want 'mullen' tricks & do more with catching tricks.

- Dynamic Weather & Night Skating - Even if it's just an option, this would be cool. That said, doing good night environments in a video game for skating always looks shit, just look at the After Dark DLC for 3. Fuck that.

- Online - ONE THING! Have a Spot Mode, where you can just pick a spot and choose a 'camera' to hang with friends at a marker at a spot and all just skate it. Watch your buddy try a trick, have your turn swap and try to up him, or just session it. That'd be great.

- Environment - Keep it less skateparky, and more like 1, where you had to find your spots. Have parks around the city, more backyard miniramps, pools are cool, more secret bits and pieces.

- Ramp Skating - LIP MODIFIER!! Hit the Shoulder Button to lock onto a lip trick. Popping blunts, 5-0 fakies, proper footplants & lip slides. That's the big one right there, that'd rule.
Day one for that.
 
If they made that game, and supported it with with DLC of REAL skateparks & spots, and kept product releases kind of up to market date, i'd never play another game again. They could sell me an EA Skate Machine and i'd just play that.

Oh and yeah, bring back Gonz! Even though he asked to be dropped as he didn't want to encourage something that stopped kids from going out and actually skating. Noble dude, but still banks the Krooked cheques, haha.
 
I thought Skate 3 was ok but liked Skate 2 more, haven't played one.

What I really want is that the "bouncyness" can be turned off in the sequel (if there ever is one). Hell, while playing GTAIV I couldn't help how awesome Euphoria Engine would be with Skate.
 
Every thing felt so cheap and recycled in 2 and 3. The horrible frame rate and the step back in graphics are one of the many things that made myself (who put over 50 hours in skate) not want to touch the series again, to much a focus on cashing in.
 
I hope they take out the feature were if you repeatedly go back to a session marker pedestrians will start to clog up the spot and stand in your way. I mean seriously, why has that been in all 3 games !?
 
Absolutely the best new series this gen. I have way too many hours(300+) logged in each game and still play Skate 3 a few times a week. I still make silly videos out of my skating because it's fun as hell.

Cuz confirmed that there won't be a Skate 4. http://skatefluckit.com/showthread.php?t=5339
Cuz said:
Appreciate what you have (or don't, your call, your time, your business)...figure out the "workarounds"...but a hearty thanks from those of us that lived and bled the game for many, many years and please know that I and many other "workers" on the team did what we could to get what we could into this round of skating games.

Evidently JR and the visionaries overseeing EA's course charting future aren't stoked on skating. That's cool. The run was fun while it lasted.

But...I'm still thinking, dreaming, and...whatevs.

Keep Rolling...I am.

Honestly I'm a little bummed, but not heart broken. I still have 3 amazing games with endless possibilities. If we're talking about our favorite games then Skate 3 is undoubtedly the best, where Skate 2 is probably my least favorite.

Skate 3 introduced so much great content. Create a Park improves the game drastically. People are making perfect remakes of real life spots, and you can make some truly remarkable stuff if you put time into it. Port Carverton is awesome, at first I really didn't like this city, but the longer you play the better it gets. I'm still not a fan of the aesthetics, but it's a fantastic city to skate. There's a shit-ton of fun spots and many ways to skate them, especially with the object dropper. Hardcore mode gave the series infinitely more life than the first 2. You can spend hours trying something that would take 5 tries in the previous 2 games, and you can make it look 10x better. My enjoyment of the first 2 games has diminished because of hardcore mode. And filming with the free cam is at its best in Skate 3. There's also consistently more videos of higher quality being put out by the community than there was for Skate 1 or 2.

Skate 1 & 2 are still great games. My perfect Skate game would probably be all the great features of Skate 3 with the city of Skate 1. Just releasing the Art Gallery and LL Regs for DLC in Skate 3 was amazing. The level design was sharper in the first game. Skate 2 never did much for me beyond introducing the new cameras. The recycled city didn't help. There's still a lot of improvements to be made, but Skate 3 is definitely the best.

If they ever do a 4th they need to completely overhaul the physics and focus more on realism.
 
I'm really shocked to see so many Skate fans trashing on 3. I did not like the changes made in 2. I put a crazy amount of hours into the original and whatever they did (haven't played in however long) in 2 was just dismal. The city was tops, but the entire mechanic was shot.

I haven't played 3 on anything but hardcore but I assume everyone else that has been in since the first info thread is too. Really, this is weird.
 
Haven't the pumped out 4 different games in span of 2 years?

I think this franchise need a rest for now. Nothing good comes out of it if you keep milking it.
 
JonnyKtyler said:
I'd like to see them do a total refresh on skate. Skate 1 was a really good game, I didn't like 2 or 3 much. My favorite "boarding" games are Skate, Amped 1, and Thrasher.

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Make new one of this plz
this game was awesome and i too try to bring it up from time to time since it seems that a couple dozen people at most have played it. it was totally ignored b/c of the thps wave but it was really well done and really challenging -- felt rewarding to pull of tricks unlike thps which was pure arcade (and i'm a big thps 1-2 fan)

i wouldn't say it was better than thps, just very different and arguably equal
 
AstroLad said:
i wouldn't say it was better than thps, just very different and arguably equal

I'd say it was better. Much better. THPS was a great game, but I never felt it was a great skateboarding game. Thrasher was the best skateboarding game until Skate 1 came out.
 
I'm quite happy with the trilogy they've released, plenty of real estate to skate in across the three games. Plus, where else can they really take it? It seems that the control scheme has reached it's limit, the only thing they can really add is flatland tricks, and I fail to see where they could squeeze it in.

I would like them to do a monster patch to 3 to allow you to play the content from all three games with all the control scheme and engine upgrades.

Skating nirvana.
 
They should bring Skitching (Skate/Rollerblade version of Road Rash) back or have a mode similar included in skate.
at this is a pipe dream, though
 
I've never played Skate 1. Loved Skate 2. If I wanted to play another game in this series, should it be Skate 1 or Skate 3? Or is it too hard to go back like that.
 
diffusionx said:
I've never played Skate 1. Loved Skate 2. If I wanted to play another game in this series, should it be Skate 1 or Skate 3? Or is it too hard to go back like that.
I prefer the San Van in skate 1, just be prepared for a limited moveset (no fingerflips, underflips, late flips, etc) and to have the board tied to your feet. The latter is the major pain, massive detours to get up a simple stair set and such.
Oh, and the framerate stinks on ps3.
I'd honestly go for 3 though, easily the best performer of the three, and obviously the expanded moveset is a big plus. It's all about the tricks right?
 
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