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Is G-sync worth the premium to increase longevity of your hardware?
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OnionPowder
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Yes, a weaker card takes advantage of g-sync just as much as a high end card. Playing Dota at 120FPS is magical.
SliChillax
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I have the same monitor. As a TN panel it's one of the best in terms of colors and you will get used to it even more over time. I didn't have to mess around much with the color calibration but I did adjust a few settings in the Nvidia control panel where you can adjust contrast and hue. I've seen worse looking IPS panels than this. Congrats on your new monitor. You will enjoy it, that's a fact
This is the monitor I have, and I friggen' love it. Got it on sale for 400.
I never cared about it only being 1080p. I'm not ready for anything more, I'd reckon, since when I got it I only had a 970.
I have the same monitor. As a TN panel it's one of the best in terms of colors and you will get used to it even more over time. I didn't have to mess around much with the color calibration but I did adjust a few settings in the Nvidia control panel where you can adjust contrast and hue. I've seen worse looking IPS panels than this. Congrats on your new monitor. You will enjoy it, that's a fact
Thanks! Looking forward to setting it up tonight. I definitely would have preferred an IPS panel but not for more than the $425 I payed for the TN PQ off of Craigslist. Monitor is in good condition, too.
Mihalis0013
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So I was looking for a 4k monitor but since I only have a 980 there are folks that can barely do 30fps with sli in 4k, I'm going to wait. I currently have a Asus vg248qe (bought in 2014) but looking for a bit more (not impressed by the 3d). So, what monitors should I be looking at (2k resolution)?
reSpec Gaming
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Does Gsync work with playing a game in borderless window? I like borderless window for multi-monitor setup but want to make sure that setup makes since if one monitor is Gsync on my second monitor isn't.
Yes.
The answer is within that question: because they'll be AMD cards.
nkarafo
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I forgot to add "for me"
You can set what sync mode you wish to use per-game in the NVCP. It's listed under Monitor Technology.
There will also confusingly be a separate Vsync option per game too, which you can toggle on or off. This affects the behaviour of the display in G-Sync mode when the frame rate goes beyond the maximum refresh rate (144Hz).
G-Sync On and Vsync On means that the frame rate will never exceed 144 in G-Sync mode and output is always in sync.
G-Sync On and Vsync Off means that the frame rate is totally unlimited and can exceed 144 if your PC can manage it. Fewer than 144fps and normal G-Sync will be in effect. Greater than 144fps and all sync will disengage and you will see tearing. This G-Sync On Vsync Off option is for people who want maximum frame rate and the lowest latency at the expense of image stability.
All I can suggest for calibration is turn down the brightness to something sane. Out of the box setting was way too high on my unit.
Schnozberry
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I followed a calibration guide online. I'm pretty sure you can find one if you google it. It looked decent out of the box but even better after some color adjustments.
I think so. It's very blurry.
At least it is when my Nvidia drivers scale the image. I suppose it's possible that a monitor with a good scaling solution will handle it better but monitors are typically far worse at this than televisions. Many monitors can't even scale on their own.
Haven't tested it, but I'm under the impression that's it's definitely blurrier than playing on a monitor that has a 108p native resolution.
Hmm depends on the game, but overwhelmingly I use G-Sync On and Vsync on. I prefer pretty pixels, image stability, hate tearing and judder and prefer to not spend an age tweaking game settings.
The great thing about these displays is that they're essentially many displays in one. G-Sync if you just want to jump into a game and get a smotth experience and Ultra Low Motion Blur mode if you can maintain 85, 100 or 120 fps and want the absolute best motion resolution on an LCD.
For ULMB you have to deal with Vsync, but it can be worth it. To use it disable G-Sync in the main NVCP and use the excellent monitor control joystick to toggle ULMB on. Then use chrome to check out some of these tests to see how clear objects in motion can be. Try reading the text on that streetmap as it scrolls without ULMB. I prefer to use the monitor in 120Hz + ULMB mode when I'm not playing games.
AOC G2460PG 24" 16:9 G-SYNC LCD Monitor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824160226
if you have a framerate that fluctuates from, say, 50-60, it's pretty hard to notice. This is coming from someone that can see the once-per-second repeated frame in Mario Kart 8, if that means anything. You can tell to a degree, but it isn't nearly as jarring because there isn't this fixed wait period where you're seeing a stale, repeated image. Frame A takes 16ms to render, Frame B takes 18ms, Frame C takes 16ms... that's not very easy to catch when the frames are actually displayed as soon as they're ready.
I have the original Asus rog 1440p 144hz TN panel and I absolutely love it. Never using a none g sync monitor again unless they come out with something better. Bought it for 800 dollars and it's not a penny I've ever regretted spending. G Sync is as the thread says the god level gaming upgrade.
Glad to hear you like it. I actually think I'll see more use out of G-sync as the years go on and my recently purchased 980ti becomes more dated. Hoping 1440p doesn't become super taxing on a 980ti on new games relatively soon. I'm enrolling in grad school so I'm dumping money into my PC now while I still have a decent job as I will be out of the pc ugrade game for at least 2 years
Thanks for the feedback. I guess if its too blurry I'll just have to play the games at 1440p with normal framerates
What kind of rig do you have?
I think the key to visualizing this is to stop thinking in terms of "frames per second" and to think about it in terms of how long a single frame is displayed. On a 60hz traditional screen, avoiding screen tearing, you need to render in 16ms or less to experience that display's maximum smoothness. If you fail to hit that, the last frame will repeat for another 16ms cycle, causing it to display for 32ms instead of 16.
On a gsync display, that doesn't happen anymore. A frame can be shown for 16ms, 17ms, 18ms, whatever. Each frame is shown when it's complete, simple as that.
On a gsync display, that doesn't happen anymore. A frame can be shown for 16ms, 17ms, 18ms, whatever. Each frame is shown when it's complete, simple as that.
muddafadda
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Got the Dell S2716DG and it's really good. I was afraid that the image quality wouldn't be as nice as a IPS panel. The viewing angles are probably the one thing that sticks out next to my secondary IPS monitor.
G-Sync or Freesync is worth it for me. Playing Overwatch/CS:GO/etc on my PC makes it hard for me to play UC4 haha.
If anyone's interested, I'm selling a BNIB Dell S2716DG in the BST thread
G-Sync or Freesync is worth it for me. Playing Overwatch/CS:GO/etc on my PC makes it hard for me to play UC4 haha.
If anyone's interested, I'm selling a BNIB Dell S2716DG in the BST thread
There's also the Acer XB270HAb and BenQ XL2420G.
Personally I play at 1920x1080 all the time on a PG278G and it's fine. I sometimes prefer the better looking pixels and high frame rates. Sure 2560x1440 is lovely and crisp, but it's not like 1920x1080 is offensively terrible or something.
digitalrelic
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I've been an on-and-off PC gaming enthusiast for close to 20 years, and I'd say G-Sync is my single most worthwhile purchase thus far. The concept of needing a "locked 60fps" is over. It's so nice.
Vigilant Walrus
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When are prices coming down for these things? In the 34-inch 21:9 space they are extremely expensive. We got a Asus ROG and a Acer offering. We need something at 600 dollars. I'd wish they would cut some of the other bells and whistles and just make a good monitor with good durability, image quality and G-sync. Scrap the speakers, and all the extra I/O and fancy stands.
The Omega Man
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I just bought the Aoc one myself, pretty stocked about it.
Reading this v-sync settings, isn't it better to leave v-sync always off everywhere and use RTSS to limit the frame rate to around 135?
Reading this v-sync settings, isn't it better to leave v-sync always off everywhere and use RTSS to limit the frame rate to around 135?
That stuff is not going to affect the price. You're paying for a specially selected panel that's capable of variable-refresh at suitable quality together with an FPGA and the time needed to QA it all. It's not like standard fixed 60Hz panels that only need to look decent at one refresh rate.
It's just another way to go. Doing this will avoid the small increase in latency that occurs when you leave Vsync on and you hit the panel rate limit. I doubt you'd notice a difference though tbh.
UpDownLeftRight
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I still need to find myself a nice 1080p Gsync monitor that I can afford sometime. I've been itching to get one since they were first announced. If you can do it OP, why not? It's a straight upgrade as long as you don't mind sticking with Nvidia.
Sparrowhawk
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I have a 980 and a quad HD Gsync monitor with an i5-4670 and surprisingly, most things run really well on pretty high settings. I can't imagine what it'll be like once I upgrade again.
How does G-sync handle fps multiplayer like battlefield 4?
I understand fps 120+ is ideal but how about if you're in the 50-80 range? Is it crap?
In other scenarios with FramesPS how does Gsync handle overall with bf4 cod etc?
Note I have a 120hz monitor but looking into gsync.
I understand fps 120+ is ideal but how about if you're in the 50-80 range? Is it crap?
In other scenarios with FramesPS how does Gsync handle overall with bf4 cod etc?
Note I have a 120hz monitor but looking into gsync.
This is what g-sync was made for, it's the opposite of crap. Once your framerate starts to drop you don't get all the stuttering that usually occurs with vertical sync enabled while still maintaining a screen tearing free experience.
Jin
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I believe once you exceed the 144hz you will see tearing. Have you tried turning on Vsync in Nvidia control panel? So the game stays below 144fps.
Ah, this must be it. So do I want to enable vsync and g-sync in nvidia's panel? v-sync will give me some input lag, no?
When the game is running at 144fps in G-Sync + Vsync mode, there will be a small increase in latency. The display will be running in Vsync mode essentially. If the rate dips, you'll be getting G-Sync benefits again.
One option is to use a frame limiter to keep the max frame rate just below 144.
This seems like the best idea, I'll do this. thanks.
Jin
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If you cap the framerate do it a few frames below the maximum to reduce input lag. Something like capping it at 140fps. It's a weird thing with Gsync and Vsync. If you're really interested you should check out this article on Gsync and input lag.
http://www.blurbusters.com/gsync/preview2/
http://www.blurbusters.com/gsync/preview2/
LOLCats
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You already got a 980ti, you might as well get the gsync monitor. I personally went amd/freesync and i like it a lot. If you have the money, yes do it. But just so you know i got a rad 390 + pimp 1440p freesync monitor for the cost of just a gsync monitor. Gsync monitors are also highly limited on number of available inputs.