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[sphinx]

Yesterday I began my 5th walkthrough of metroid fusion. I have read that if you finish the game in under 2 hours, you get a different samus pic, or in other words, a different ending.

since my 2nd walkthourgh I have been trying to do things "fast" to try to improve my time but It's pointless! I just saved after entering the Zone 2 (TRO) for the first time and I am already at 16 minutes in the clock counter!! and I HAVE NOT messed around, I haven't got derailed and have done everything as fast as I can. I have always ended up with 4~ hours when I finish the game in my past walkthroughs and I think that even if I try harder I could finish it in 3 hours, but UNDER 2? how?

tell me allmighty GAF, is it possible? What am I doing wrong??

thanks everyone.

 

[Pokeylongo]

I've played it about four times I think, and last time it took me 3:33. That's without speed runs, but I don't really do extraneous things, either, like getting lots of items. I still try to keep my time low, though. Two hours sounds extremely hard. Experts only, probably.

 

[trh]

Uhm, it's very possible. Played through it in one sitting on a bus trip and I got like 1:20, that was about the third time I ever finished the game. Just know the route and go for it is all you need to do really.

 

[Sharp]

Yes. 0:40 in-game time.

 

[AdmiralViscen]

Easily.

 

[agent069]

http://speeddemosarchive.com/fusion.html

The pros finish it in 50 minutes, knowing that 2 hours must be possible for a regular player.

 

[Koren]

tell me allmighty GAF, is it possible? What am I doing wrong??

Not sure about what you're doing wrong. Exploiting shortcuts is really handy. But yes, it's doable... I'm a bit over 1:20 myself, and it was not really a speed run (just a quick play on a game I know).

Speed run record is 50 minutes, 100% speed run is 1:13 as far as I know.

 

[GDJustin]

http://www.gamefaqs.com/portable/gbadvance/file/516709/28925

 

[the thoroughbred]

I've played it about four times I think, and last time it took me 3:33. That's without speed runs, but I don't really do extraneous things, either, like getting lots of items. I still try to keep my time low, though. Two hours sounds extremely hard. Experts only, probably.

What do you mean by "That's witout speed runs," is "speed runs" some sort of cheating device, 3rd party peripheral, or something. I don't get it.

Or did you simply mean, "without running through the game really fast, and without the inention of doing a speed run"?

 

[Koren]

Or did you simply mean, "without running through the game really fast, and without the inention of doing a speed run"?

This, and probably exploiting a lot of tricks to avoid some parts of the story, even if in Fusion, it's not really simple.

In fact, in most metroid, you can decrease a lot the completion time by getting some items early, avoiding some area/bosses, and performing special things. A simple example : if you're quick, you can go through some hot parts in Metroid Zero without the varia suit. You can then access areas earlier than you "should".

A lot of the fun in Metroid is finding this kind of thing.

 

[Sharp]

This, and probably exploiting a lot of tricks to avoid some parts of the story, even if in Fusion, it's not really simple.

In fact, in most metroid, you can decrease a lot the completion time by getting some items early, avoiding some area/bosses, and performing special things. A simple example : if you're quick, you can go through some hot parts in Metroid Zero without the varia suit. You can then access areas earlier than you "should".

A lot of the fun in Metroid is finding this kind of thing.

Not in Fusion unfortunately. There is exactly one unexpected "sequence break" and it doesn't do anything meaningful (just allows you to beat the game with 0% completion).

 

[Pokeylongo]

What do you mean by "That's witout speed runs," is "speed runs" some sort of cheating device, 3rd party peripheral, or something. I don't get it.

Or did you simply mean, "without running through the game really fast, and without the inention of doing a speed run"?

Yeah, the second one (should have said "without speed running"). Every time I played, it was probably over a year apart and I forgot lots of stuff. To beat it in two hours, you probably have to have it committed to memory.

 

[Mejilan]

Where's Red Scarlet?

 

[Shalomi]

God, just play Zero Mission instead.

 

[Sule]

God, just play Zero Mission instead.

Which is actually seen as the better one, thinking of buying one of GBA metroid's seeing how metroid ''dread'' is not happening it seems?

 

[Aeris130]

2 hours? Yeah.

2 hours and 100% is another story...

 

[Mejilan]

Which is actually seen as the better one, thinking of buying one of GBA metroid's seeing how metroid ''dread'' is not happening it seems.

They're both fantastic and different, IMHO. I played through both some time ago, back to back for the first time in almost 2 years. Excellent games.

 

[USD]

2 hours? Yeah.

2 hours and 100% is another story...

Yeah, trying to get that seems pretty extreme. I liked Fusion, it was my first Metroid and all, but I had no desire to go through the games the number of times it would have taken to do that.

 

[sphinx]

2 hours? Yeah.

2 hours and 100% is another story...

That's my problem. This is not precisely an easy game and I still need tanks if I don't want my ass kicked. I assume you need to sacrifice many of them in orther to finish under 2 hours....

anyone knows how many tanks do you get if you go through the main game line only, without derailing or backtracking? Some late bosses like ridley are really annoying,

 

[Aeris130]

"Get" as in "can find without too much effort, aka where you can practically see the tanks when you enter a room"?

About half of them, (but I've played it a couple of times). Missiles and powerbombs count towards the percentage as well though (I think...?), and I've never even gotten close to finding every single one of them.

But since there's an ending for completing it under 2h with 100%, it should be possible.

 

[Koren]

2 hours? Yeah.

2 hours and 100% is another story...

In fusion, it's not really worse. I think I'm 1:45 for 100%, and there's a lot of room for improvement. As said before, record is under 1:15...

Not in Fusion unfortunately. There is exactly one unexpected "sequence break" and it doesn't do anything meaningful (just allows you to beat the game with 0% completion).

Yes, I know, it's quite straight. There's some interesting tricks, still, like if you manage to escape the computer trap in an abnormal way...

 

[Sharp]

100% Metroid Fusion run in under one hour. 0:57 (in-game time, of course) though it's under two hours in real time as well.

 

[alistairw]

100% Metroid Fusion run in under one hour. 0:57 (in-game time, of course) though it's under two hours in real time as well.

That's also from Bisqwit's Tool Assisted Speedrun archive and therefore has no bearing on what is actually possible.

 

[Kiriku]

Which is actually seen as the better one

It is? Definitely not by me at least. And a quick glance at metacritic.com shows Fusion scored higher than Zero Mission.

 

[Sharp]

That's also from Bisqwit's Tool Assisted Speedrun archive and therefore has no bearing on what is actually possible.

No, it is precisely what is possible, which was the question here. Whether a human could do it is another issue entirely. I will say, however, that some older TAses have been obsoleted by speedruns.

 

[sphinx]

That's also from Bisqwit's Tool Assisted Speedrun archive and therefore has no bearing on what is actually possible.

that is why I never click on links to supposed speedruns.

I can't disintguish the real from the tool assisted. Most of the jackasses on the net claim their speedruns to be not tool assisted yet you see all kinds of strange glitches, it is not even funny.

 

[Sharp]

that is why I never click on links to supposed speedruns.

I can't disintguish the real from the tool assisted. Most of the jackasses on the net claim their speedruns to be not tool assisted yet you see all kinds of strange glitches, it is not even funny.

SDA is reliable. And just because there are glitches doesn't mean that it's a TAS.

 

[bjork]

that is why I never click on links to supposed speedruns.

I can't disintguish the real from the tool assisted. Most of the jackasses on the net claim their speedruns to be not tool assisted yet you see all kinds of strange glitches, it is not even funny.

You don't need tools to pull off many glitches featured in those videos.

 

[Sule]

It is? Definitely not by me at least. And a quick glance at metacritic.com shows Fusion scored higher than Zero Mission.

Sorry, forgot to put a question mark, my bad.

 

[Red Scarlet]

Where's Red Scarlet?

I don't like Fusion! But yeah like the SDA runs (which are by a person on the console and not a TAS) show, it is very possible. Just don't as me for pointers.

 

[Mistwalker]

With both Fusion and Zero Mission I played through them once on my own and a second time with a walkthrough to see what secrets I missed.

My second Fusion run was purely for the sub-2 hour 100% ending, and I managed 1:57 using a guide; far from what's possible but a clear indication it can be done (as I am no Metroid expert).

 

[PantherLotus]

So, you've decided to make a thred title. What, is your stratagee?

 

[sphinx]

So, you've decided to make a thred title. What, is your stratagee?

are you talking to me??

I decided to start all over, I wasn't very far, anyway.

I managed to get to the saving point in Zone 2 (TRO) in 12 minutes. 4 minutes less than before...That's the best possible, I swear I was like crazy all over the place knowing exactly were to go and that's just the beginning.

 

[Red Scarlet]

Time should still tick when you get an item, so if you have to pause your game, actually press start or put it in sleep mode. Maybe that was part of the problem.