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[Cheez-It]

Is it that no good games are developed for the platform, or is it just that Nintendo doesn't release the good games?

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the service, in general, is crap

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World of Goo is good, but not THAT good. I seriously wonder what are your standards for good games

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Wiiware is still pretty damn shitty

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It's just not a strong competitor for those two platforms and I don't know if it ever will be this gen.

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Clearly you don't play PC games.

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But yes, WiiWare is almost completely shit.

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WiiWare is disappointing.

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It's pretty craptacular, yeah. I've only bought one game on the service so far - Alien Crush Returns.

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I bought DrMario and My life as a King and played the hell out of mLasK. After that, I didn't see any interesting game

Didn't we just have the FIRST anniversary of the WiiWare service? And somehow having the number of gems and good titles on the service is BAD? Honestly, some of you people are a disgrace to the gaming community.

Care to discuss either the launch year of XBLA and PSN, or the current year of XBLA and PSN vs. WiiWare? In both cases, WiiWare is at the very least as good as the other services.

Oh, and if you don't think World of Goo is a gem? You have no soul.

 

[epmode]

Why do you guys always concern yourselves with the shit games? You sit here bitching about ratios while the gems go untouched.

Well, a WiiWare release precludes a VC release. At least it does in America. Every pile of crap that NoA puts out is more time I have to wait for Majora's Mask.

 

[lsslave]

Well, a WiiWare release precludes a VC release. At least it does in America. Every pile of crap that NoA puts out is more time I have to wait for Majora's Mask.

Now now, we all know that NoA sucks for bringing over games.

NoA is probably the worst side of any gaming division worldwide for bringing over games, NoE has outshined NoA and that... that is a dark blow

 

[bounchfx]

WiiWare and VC is just a massive disappointment compared to XBLA and even PSN... if only because of the fact that the VC alone had SO much potential.. now it's just.. bleh. I don't even look forward to monday vc releases now because they've been all trash.

 

[SickBoy]

I don't have a ton of WiiWare games... but I don't think there's any problems with the selection.

The problem with the service for me is it just seems like the current dry spell is longer and worse than I've seen on other platforms. Maybe that's just because I have no idea what's coming out on WiiWare (other than Swords and Soldiers) that looks interesting to me.

I also had found the pricing a touch questionable, although with prices on the other services ratcheting up, not so much any more. But there's no question I'd have more games if there were demos.

 

[lsslave]

Don't forget Robocalypse is coming to WiiWare!!

 

[Nose Master]

Just like the retail wii lineup...

 

[Deleted member 22576]

The only WiiWare game I've purchased is Bit.trip beat for my Sister's Wii.
It's fucking radical.


But yeah, it's mostly crap I guess.. but so is XBLA.

 

[VegaShinra]

Isn't Final Fantasy IV: The After getting released on June 1? I think that saves WiiWare for me.

 

[Agent X]

I agree with some of the posters here who feel WiiWare appears substandard, certainly in comparison to the other two consoles' downloadable game selections. In the year or so that WiiWare has existed, I've managed to get a whopping two games for it (LostWinds and World of Goo). Both of those games are excellent, but beyond those games there's not much on there that looks appealing.

One of the main problems with WiiWare is that there are absolutely no demos on the service. It's hard to get excited about games on WiiWare when you can't get a demo, or even a video to watch for the vast majority of games.

I've got a PS3 also, and I find myself anticipating PSN games far more often than WiiWare games. Sony still doesn't have a large amount of demos out there, but many of the bigger releases (and even some of the smaller ones) have demos, and those that don't often have at least a video. Along with this, the PSN is "marketed" better by the use of the official PlayStation blog, where the developers enthusiastically talk up their games a few days before releasing them. Even if a PSN games doesn't initially appeal to me (or looks like outright crap), at least I have a good idea what's coming out and whether I might be interested in it.

WiiWare, by comparison, just seems to be tossed out there every Monday with little to no fanfare. If we're lucky, we might get a brief video on Nintendo Channel for it--otherwise there's nothing besides a couple of postage stamp sized screens in the Wii Shop and the short description that accompanies them.

I don't have an Xbox 360, and don't follow the platform all that closely, but like PSN they do a great job of getting the word out about their new games. It's ironic that I know a lot more about XBLA games than WiiWare games.

Nintendo needs to step up the presentation of WiiWare. They can start by dressing up the Wii Shop a little more, but I thik they should go further and start a blog or podcast and give the developers and publishers an outlet to "market" their new releases. Also, it's important that they start offering demos up there, at least something occasionally to get people excited and make them want to open the Wii Shop Channel to see what's new.

 

[Wii Will Rock U]

Lost Winds, Dr. Mario Online RX, FFCC: My Life as a King, Megaman 9, World of Goo, Defend Your Castle and Maboshi's Arcade are all worth your money.

I'm sure the upcoming FFIV: The After will be worth it too.

 

[Flying_Phoenix]

Well I'd imagine that PSN and XBLA would be superior to Wiiware due to having more than a full year (or two) head start.

 

[Mik2121]

Sorry but I can't agree with this, Wii Ware has an excellent lineup of must haves (especially when you consider that XBLA is two years older and PSN one year older!) Take away the retro ports from XBLA and I actually own more Wii Ware games then XBLA or PSN!

While it's true that there haven't been a lot of quality releases recently apart from Bonzai Barber (If that's your sort of thing) it has already amassed a solid library of greats that have already been listed (Special nod to Bomberman Blast as well, 10x better than Bomberman Live/Ultra, best Bomberman game ever )

And for those noting that World of Goo is also on PC, guess what? so are most of the good PSN/XBLA games (That includes the likes of Braid and BC Rearmed)

I'd personally put XBLA and WW as tied equally with PSN as dead last (There's almost nothing exclusive that I'm interested in and I'd rather get em on 360 most of the time)

Hey, I can do that too! Check this:

I own the Wii since Dec. 2006 and the PS3 since April 2008 and I have more disc games for PS3 and 8 times more PSN games than WiiWare games (2 vs 16). I guess that means PSN is better than WW? lol...

I'd like to point out also that you say Bomberman Blast (480p, not even Dolby Pro Logic II, 10 stages, 8 players online?) is better than Bomberman Live (1080i, 8 stages + other 6 DLC stages, voice chat, more game modes, etc..) and Bomberman Ultra (which hasn't even been released!?)... seriously? Wow...

And last but not least.. saying PSN is dead last with almost nothing exclusive that you are interested already demonstrates you either know absolutely nothing about the PS3, which isn't really unexpected seeing how you are just trolling, but even then, kinda sad, or you just don't like games, period.


I can see how some of you guys think games like 'World of Goo' are gems.. but just because they might be some of the best games out of the WiiWare thing, it doesn't mean they are overall gems when compared to all games from other download services.

 

[nincompoop]

I can see how some of you guys think games like 'World of Goo' are gems.. but just because they might be some of the best games out of the WiiWare thing, it doesn't mean they are overall gems when compared to all games from other download services.

Seeing as how you've never actually played any Wiiware games you aren't really qualified to make that statement.

I've played Braid and Bionic Commando Rearmed on the PC and neither of them would be among my top 5 Wiiware games.

 

[ethelred]

There isn't very much about WiiWare that seems at all compelling, the lack of demos is very disappointing, there are loads of pure shovelware crap, and the service essentially crib-deathed the Virtual Console...

... but it has LostWinds, which I absolutely adored, and it will presumably have LostWinds 2 before too long. So, that's not too bad. I'm also really looking forward to The After Years, and maybe My Life as a Dark Lord.

I look at it as much the same as Wii retail releases: loads of crap, a miniscule number of quality releases, but a handful of really excellent gems that I wouldn't want to not have. Certainly I wish there was more stuff like LostWinds, and fewer releases like World Darts Championship or whatnot, but I guess that's how it goes with this system. Just like with Wii retail, I'd find it completely unacceptable to have just WiiWare for my gaming needs, but I'm very glad on balance that I do have it as a supplement.

And last but not least.. saying PSN is dead last with almost nothing exclusive that you are interested already demonstrates you either know absolutely nothing about the PS3, which isn't really unexpected seeing how you are just trolling, but even then, kinda sad, or you just don't like games, period.

I like games. I know plenty about the PS3. And PSN has a lot less that interests me than either XBLA or WiiWare. It has almost nothing exclusive that I'm interested in. So suck on that.

(PS3 retail also has a whole lot less that interests me than 360 retail or Wii retail! I'm glad I don't feel the need to come up with justifying rationalizations for my multi-hundred dollar tech expenditures)

 

[Mik2121]

Seeing as how you've never actually played any Wiiware games you aren't really qualified to make that statement.

I've played Braid and Bionic Commando Rearmed on the PC and neither of them would be among my top 5 Wiiware games.

What? Did you even read what I said?... I even bought WiiWare stuff before you even had access to that channel in the US, and I've tried many other games at a friend's house (I don't like the idea of spending money on games without trying them out at all and basically knowing NOTHING about them).

Also, Bionic Commando isn't even in the top10 on PSN and probably neither on XBLA. So yeah.. what you said doesn't mean anything :/

edit - ethelred, really? Well, that's weird to me actually. I mean, even I like games from WiiWare (already said I own 2 and some games like Swords&Soldiers seems like fun). Saying you are not interested in almost any exclusive for PSN sounds more like you actually don't even know what exclusive games are out there.

edit 2 - So if you are not interested in that many games and you don't even know about psn exclusives, why did you buy a ps3? It makes no sense.

 

[Bankoiia]

Bit Trip. Beat is the answer! It's delicious!

 

[Cheez-It]

I can see how some of you guys think games like 'World of Goo' are gems.. but just because they might be some of the best games out of the WiiWare thing, it doesn't mean they are overall gems when compared to all games from other download services.

I brought World of Goo for the PC. From the start of this generation, the only games that have truly sucked me in were the Orange Box, Super Mario Galaxy, and World of Goo. When I call World of Goo a gem, I refer to it as a game, amongst all of the other games that have been released. It is a joy to play. It might not be the longest or most challenging game, but it is one of the top games this generation, with no room for argument.

 

[ethelred]

edit - ethelred, really? Well, that's weird to me actually. I mean, even I like games from WiiWare (already said I own 2 and some games like Swords&Soldiers seems like fun). Saying you are not interested in almost any exclusive for PSN sounds more like you actually don't even know what exclusive games are out there.

Careful. Now you're starting to sound like all the loopy Nintendo cultists in this thread prattling on about the hundreds of must buy WiiWare games and preaching to the unenlightened about how if only they knew about all the wonderful gems then surely they'd see the light and embrace what Mommy N has done for digital download gaming.

I'm aware of the games. They don't interest me.

edit 2 - So if you are not interested in that many games and you don't even know about psn exclusives, why did you buy a ps3? It makes no sense.

Again: I know about the PSN exclusives. I don't care about them. Let's be sure to get that straight.

And I basically bought a PS3 for Valkyrie of the Battlefield. I knew it was a bad idea at the time, and I still did it anyway. Oh well!

 

[Mik2121]

but it is one of the top games this generation, with no room for argument.

There's quite a LOT of room for argument there. Unless you are talking about some top100 or something, then maybe it could be there, otherwise I doubt it.

Other thing would be if you just said:

but it is one of the top games for me this generation, with no room for argument.

Then there would be no room for argument

I'm aware of the games. They don't interest me.

Again: I know about the PSN exclusives. I don't care about them. Let's be sure to get that straight.!

Really? I know it's all about tastes, but you don't care about games like... Echocrome, The Last Guy, High Velocity Bowling, WipeOut HD, Warhawk, PixelJunk Eden, PixelJunk Monsters, SuperStarDust HD, Fat Princess, Flower, and many other exclusive games? :/ Oh well, I can't really blame you, as I guess it's the same with me and WiiWare (though I actually like a couple games)

 

[Coolio McAwesome]

There are a lot of great WiiWare titles. The only downside is that you actually have to like video games to appreciate the selection. The fact that some posters in this thread have only been interested in a few WiiWare titles in no way suggests that there aren't great WiiWare games available.

 

[Commanche Raisin Toast]

the pickins are slim on wiiware, and most of it is either crap (MY OPINION RAWR) or overpriced, or already on XBLA/PSN.

if it's already on those i'll just get it on PSN. trophies and in HD.

 

[TheSonicRetard]

I actually play WiiWare far more than my wii. This is because I'm sitting here in houston without my HDTV, and I can't connect my media PC to my SDTV, so I have my hacked Wii running mplayer CE. I find myself taking breaks from watching various downloaded shows by browsing my WiiWare collection.

Most of WiiWare is crap yeah. But there are some really, really good Gems. I cannot recommend enough Contra Rebirth and Bit.Trip beat. Contra rebirth isn't available in the US yet, so I have to play it illegally, but the second it drops, I'm giving Konami all my money.

EDIT: Also, you cretin, Bonk's Adventure is fantastic. Get some taste, moran.

 

[Chumly]

Hey, I can do that too! Check this:

I own the Wii since Dec. 2006 and the PS3 since April 2008 and I have more disc games for PS3 and 8 times more PSN games than WiiWare games (2 vs 16). I guess that means PSN is better than WW? lol...

Are you stupid???? Just curious because the point seems to have gone over your head?

What has had more games come out PS3 or PS2? Could it POSSIBLE be the PS2 since its been out for like 8 years compared to the PS3's 2.5?

I can see how some of you guys think games like 'World of Goo' are gems.. but just because they might be some of the best games out of the WiiWare thing, it doesn't mean they are overall gems when compared to all games from other download services.

Wow.....

World of Goo is the top rated downloadable game of this generation on metacritic and you dont think it can even be compared to PSN XBLA? :lol :lol Please keep acting like a ignorant fanboy.

And last but not least.. saying Wiiware sucks with almost nothing exclusive that you are interested already demonstrates you either know absolutely nothing about the Wii, which isn't really unexpected seeing how you are just trolling, but even then, kinda sad, or you just don't like games, period.

Keep it up!!!

 

[loosus]

Yes, it's fucking horrible. I don't know why they even bother. Maybe Nintendo just uses it as a bulletpoint feature to compete with 360 and PS3.

 

[Linkup]

Golden Axe rocks regardless of DD service.

 

[borghe]

I can see how some of you guys think games like 'World of Goo' are gems.. but just because they might be some of the best games out of the WiiWare thing, it doesn't mean they are overall gems when compared to all games from other download services.

you are fucking crazy. end of story. if you would actually argue that World of Goo is not one of the greatest games this gen then your level of objectivity on this subject is simply.... well, you're a fucking fanboy. You also completely ignore the fact that World of Goo is not exclusive to WiiWare. Oh no, it's out for the PC also.. but I suppose it isn't great on there either.

holy shit. this thread has officially turned retarded. "Games like World of Goo may be great on WiiwWAre, but they're just average on the might that is PSN!! HV FO LIFE!!"

wow, just wow.

edit - tell you what. give me one single game on PSN that is objectively better than World of Goo.. None of this "I like Go Sudoku so it's better IMHO HAHAH!" I mean one PSN/XBLA game that you could easily grab 50+ other posters from this forum and get them to all say "Yeah, that's a shitload better than World of Goo". Shit, the typically most regarded games on the other systems, like Braid and MegaMan9 the best you'll get in general is "Yeah, they are all great games."

 

[d[-_-]b]

Yes, it's fucking horrible. I don't know why they even bother. Maybe Nintendo just uses it as a bulletpoint feature to compete with 360 and PS3.

has finally stopped feigning literacy

Really did you read the posts by other users...

 

[loosus]

Really did you read the posts by other users...

Believe it or not, no. But I guess I should so that I can form opinions that match GAF's hive mind, such as yourself.

 

[TheSonicRetard]

I did not like World of Goo. On the Wii, or on the PC.

I eagerly await seeing you jackasses foam at the mouth and quote me metacritic scores.

edit - tell you what. give me one single game on PSN that is objectively better than World of Goo.. None of this "I like Go Sudoku so it's better IMHO HAHAH!" I mean one PSN/XBLA game that you could easily grab 50+ other posters from this forum and get them to all say "Yeah, that's a shitload better than World of Goo". Shit, the typically most regarded games on the other systems, like Braid and MegaMan9 the best you'll get in general is "Yeah, they are all great games."

You don't know what objectively means.

 

[borghe]

I did not like World of Goo. On the Wii, or on the PC.

I eagerly await seeing you jackasses foam at the mouth and quote me metacritic scores.

metacritic unfortunately only rates composite game scores. It unfortunately cannot portray one's bad taste.

You don't know what objectively means.

on the contrary, I used objectively intentionally. There are certain bullet points that can very easily be looked at. How does it control? How are the graphics and animations? How is the music? How is the difficulty? Is the length decent? Price?

Whether you like a game or not is subjective... but there are definitely objective criteria you can look for in a game and THAT is why the game is so highly rated in general.

 

[d[-_-]b]

Believe it or not, no. But I guess I should so that I can form opinions that match GAF's hive mind, such as yourself.

Really GAF hive mind says if it's on the Wii it's crap, guess you really have your own opinion....

 

[loosus]

Really GAF hive mind says if it's on the Wii it's crap, guess you really have your own opinion....

Thanks for the input. Unlike you, I have no idea what the hive mind is saying because, as you said, I didn't read it. I just turned on my Wii and, sure enough, WiiWare still sucks. Oh well.

 

[TheSonicRetard]

on the contrary, I used objectively intentionally. There are certain bullet points that can very easily be looked at. How does it control? How are the graphics and animations? How is the music? How is the difficulty? Is the length decent? Price?

Whether you like a game or not is subjective... but there are definitely objective criteria you can look for in a game and THAT is why the game is so highly rated in general.

You intentionally used objectively wrong, then.

 

[borghe]

Thanks for the input. Unlike you, I have no idea what the hive mind is saying because, as you said, I didn't read it. I just turned on my Wii and, sure enough, WiiWare still sucks. Oh well.

wow.. you didn't download anything but know without question that it still sucks. even though you didn't play a single thing.

you're right, something sucks around here, and it's a good bet it ain't WiiWare.

You intentionally used objectively wrong, then.

if you seriously feel you can't look at various aspects of games objectively, I'm pretty sure the word doesn't mean what you think it means.

 

[PepsimanVsJoe]

The only Wiiware release I guess I bought was Megaman 9 for XBLA. Hated it.

Maybe if Nintendo actually committed some of their own teams to put some quality stuff out instead of simply approving Joe Bob's Frisbee Party and 90% of the other garbage that infests the service I'd show a greater interest in it.

The rest? I dunno. Probably a combination of no interest and not my thing.

 

[loosus]

wow.. you didn't download anything but no without question that it still sucks. even though you didn't play a single thing.

you're right, something sucks around here, and it's a good bet it ain't WiiWare.

Yeah, I have no idea what I'm missing. That must be the problem here!

GO NINTENDO! Keep rocking it with WiiWare!

 

[TheSonicRetard]

if you seriously feel you can't look at various aspects of games objectively, I'm pretty sure the word doesn't mean what you think it means.

PROTIP: "How are the graphics, and how is the music" are SUBJECTIVE questions.

 

[borghe]

Yeah, I have no idea what I'm missing. That must be the problem here!

by your own words you haven't bought anything and don't read anything about it on gaf. how the hell would you know then wise ass?

PROTIP: "How are the graphics, and how is the music" are SUBJECTIVE questions.

not entirely. if you enjoy them or appreciate them or not is subjective. However things like degree of animation, depth of composition, etc. are very much objective. Or haven't you heard the term before "It was very well put together but I just couldn't get into it." That's pretty much the point. Objectively the game is flawless. If you enjoyed it or not is an entirely different story but has nothing to do with the actual quality of the game, which is through the roof.

edit - put it this way. What did you feel was bad about the game and how would you rate it and why?

 

[loosus]

by your own words you haven't bought anything and don't read anything about it on gaf. how the hell would you know then wise ass?

I have bought plenty of WiiWare shit, have read about plenty of WiiWare shit, and know enough to form my own opinion. The guy was asking whether I have read other people's opinions about WiiWare in this thread, and I haven't. I don't need to know their opinions to form my own. I don't need anybody else to tell me how WiiWare is when I know myself that it sucks.

if you enjoy them or appreciate them or not is subjective. However things like degree of animation, depth of composition, etc. are very much objective.

Just stop. Please.

 

[POWERSPHERE]

you didn't ust say craptacular? did you? sad cunt.

 

[TheSonicRetard]

Objectively the game is flawless.

:lol :lol :lol :lol

edit - put it this way. What did you feel was bad about the game and how would you rate it and why?

Because I didn't find it fun.

And yes, I realize thats a SUBJECTIVE opinion. Notice how I'm not going around trying to pretend that it's FACTUALLY a bad game.

EDIT: Also, you don't know what "Term" means.

 

[borghe]

I have bought plenty of WiiWare shit, have read about plenty of WiiWare shit, and know enough to form my own opinion. The guy was asking whether I have read other people's opinions about WiiWare in this thread, and I haven't. I don't need to know their opinions to form my own. I don't need anybody else to tell me how WiiWare is when I know myself that it sucks.

if you haven't played anything except for the little amount that you (supposedly) bought, then how are you forming your own opinions if not from other people's opinions, gaf or not? Oh, you're making opinions on stuff you've never played and predisposed yourself to not being interested in playing. gotcha.

 

[Mik2121]

Are you stupid???? Just curious because the point seems to have gone over your head?

?? Excuse me, but when I said " I guess that means PSN is better than WW? lol..." I wasn't being serious, I was just joking because of what the other guy said (he made it seem like WW was better than PSN because he had more WW games). I think I was clear enough that I was being totally subjective on this and saying it was all just my taste, not that PSN is better than WW (go and look for it. I said I liked PSN better, just that).

Seriously, no need to insult. I have not insulted any of you and I've tried to keep this as peaceful as possible.

Wow.....

World of Goo is the top rated downloadable game of this generation on metacritic and you dont think it can even be compared to PSN XBLA? Please keep acting like a ignorant fanboy.

Excuse me? I didn't say "it can't be compared to PSN XBLA", I said it wouldn't be that much of a gem, but rather a "good game", unless you call lots of other games "gems" as well. I didn't say the game was bad, just that it might look better than what it really is when compared to other WiiWare games. I know it's on PC too, but to be fair, I've not seen many PC users talking about World of Goo (not saying I've not seen ANY at all, because I have, just not as much... and I guess I have to say this so someone doesn't just quote me making stuff up like before). Mostly Wii owners...


Same goes to you borghe. You can't argue without insulting? I have not insulted any of you and I have said why I think all of this, but I guess I will need to explain myself better?.

A game better than World of Goo? To me at least, Warhawk. And WipeoutHD. I could name more games I like better than World of Goo but I don't know about other people's tastes.



Again, if you are going to judge what I said in the other comment, read what I quoted because I wasn't being serious, I was just joking using a similar logic than the one used by the user quoted. Just that. You guys are taking this talk a bit too serious, insulting other people because of their opinions.

 

[borghe]

Because I didn't find it fun.

And yes, I realize thats a SUBJECTIVE opinion. Notice how I'm not going around trying to pretend that it's FACTUALLY a bad game.

because factually it's not a bad game, which pretty much proves my point. You can't say anything bad about it aside from you didn't have fun. Thus I guess there are objective areas of a game that are either good or bad. Otherwise it would be pretty hard not to like something while still recognizing parts of it that were good.

 

[lsslave]

metacritic unfortunately only rates composite game scores. It unfortunately cannot portray one's bad taste.


on the contrary, I used objectively intentionally. There are certain bullet points that can very easily be looked at. How does it control? How are the graphics and animations? How is the music? How is the difficulty? Is the length decent? Price?

Whether you like a game or not is subjective... but there are definitely objective criteria you can look for in a game and THAT is why the game is so highly rated in general.

Now borghe, we have butted heads before yet I still do generally enjoy you as a poster here.

The bolded I have to disagree with though, for a few reasons

#1 is it BAD taste that I only enjoy 2D mario and cant stand 3D mario?

#2 is it BAD taste that despite its faults I revere Secret of Mana over any other RPG ever released?

#3 is it BAD taste that I consider the GTA games mindless violence (btw: this might have been what wrecked madworld for me as well. Violence with purpose is fine but overdoing it is like a slasher flick, fun for a laugh with friends but gets old) and not worth my time to even play?

EVERYONE has their own taste. What some people like other people won't. For example, I discovered recently that I outgrew Smash Bros. recently, now that online has been added no one wants to come over to play and half the fun of Smash is a group of people having a fun time together.

World of Goo, sadly, doesn't interest me. I realize some people may like it but I haven't seen anything to sell me on it so I haven't purchased it.

Noting that, I will not say its a terrible game, just not for me. He probably feels the same way

 

[loosus]

if you haven't played anything except for the little amount that you (supposedly) bought, then how are you forming your own opinions if not from other people's opinions, gaf or not? Oh, you're making opinions on stuff you've never played and predisposed yourself to not being interested in playing. gotcha.

Yeah, way to go on figuring me out. This must be how things worked. The witch hunt can now come to an end!

 

[TheSonicRetard]

because factually it's not a bad game, which pretty much proves my point. You can't say anything bad about it aside from you didn't have fun. Thus I guess there are objective areas of a game that are either good or bad. Otherwise it would be pretty hard not to like something while still recognizing parts of it that were good.

Good and bad are inherently subjective. You're embarrassing yourself here.

 

[lsslave]

why haven't I been answered my question???


when is the new contra gonna be available?

No way to know, NoA drops games, check every monday and see

 

[Stumpokapow]

People would be better able to wade through the shit if there were demos or at the very least more media available. Everyone can agree on this. Everyone can agree that it's easier to find out if something is good or not in XBLA (universal demos) than on PSN (some demos, some trailers, media available in some format for everything), and easier on PSN than WiiWare (no demos, an extreme paucity of media in general). Demos help awareness. Trailers help awareness.

Certain genres are overcrowded on WiiWare. There are too many block puzzle games, for instance. Some responsibility falls on the developers, but some also falls on Nintendo. They don't need to ban block puzzle games, but they should consider emphasizing or incentivizing other types of games.

People are also missing the point by saying WiiWare ought to get a break because it is a younger service. This is a dumb argument. Services that launch later have a responsibility to catch up, not just keep pace. People should compare services on the basis of what they offer, not on the basis of empathy for a multinational corporation and hope for the future.