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Is it over for MS in Japan? Where does Microsoft Draw the Line?

drohne said:
what kills me is that microsoft has no japanese audience, but then goes and region-locks all their japanese games anyway. it's like they don't want anyone to play them.

:((((
 
WalkMan said:
Well it's not like they're going to be running to the X360 next0gen graphics and physics. So its between Wii and PS3 in Japan, and in many cases they'll buy both. The consumers there don't have anywhere else to go for next-gen graphics unless they want to buy an X360 with little Japanese support.
Yep, if the japanese want to keep playing the games they have been playing this gen with actual next gen graphics, they will have to get a PS3.
 
drohne said:
what kills me is that microsoft has no japanese audience, but then goes and region-locks all their japanese games anyway. it's like they don't want anyone to play them.

The publishers do it. Because they're jerks.

July 27 = 360 relaunch. BELIEVE.

Bullet Witch US$ 69.90
Release date: Jul 27, 2006

Major League Baseball 2K6 US$ 64.90
Release date: Jul 27, 2006

Shutokou Battle X Shutokou Battle X US$ 64.90
Release date: Jul 27, 2006

Senko no Ronde Rev.X Senko no Ronde Rev.X US$ 64.90
Release date: Jul 27, 2006

Senko no Ronde Rev.X [Limited Edition] Senko no Ronde Rev.X [Limited Edition]
Release date: Jul 27, 2006

Zegapain XOR Zegapain XOR US$ 64.90
Release date: Jul 27, 2006
 
yep. they are doing good here and they gotta keep that and europe up, so they get japanese support for the western market. they just dont get japan i guess.
 
duckroll said:
Erm, no. Tri-Ace is NOT Tri-Crescendo. The Tri-Ace RPG is developed by Gotanda and Norimoto at Tri-Ace and published by Microsoft Games Studio. The title has not been revealed.

Trusty Bell is developed by Tri-Crescendo who does the sound design for all of Tri-Ace's games and developed the Baten Kaitos series with Monolithsoft. Not the same people at all. Trusty Bell is being published by Bandai Namco Games.

You have just been OWNED! :lol


QFT. Nice post.
 
The only way I can see MS having any chance in japan is if they somehow manage to secure exclusive rights to either the FF or DQ series. Xbox360 does have FFXI online, but that was out on PC before and its not the type of RPG that japanese are into. If they can secure exclusive rights to massive selling franchise in japan then they will begin to gain marketshare over there.

I dont think its japanese pride thats causing poor Xbox sales, but its because the re are no games that interest them, however I do think that japanese pride plays a part in why popular japanese games are developed on MS consoles because the devs such as SE would prefer to help a japanese country succeed rather than helping MS succeed. I could be completey wrong on this though, its just a guess.
 
I don't get why Japan isn't buying the 360... I mean other than just being tools who live, breath and die for Sony. It's their fault the Dreamcast died.
 
But, I guess if I was to be optimistic, I could say that the Japanese public is waiting for the PS3 to come out to see which system has the better games.



3 of the top 30 games on famitsu's list are 360 games. 4 are PS3 games.....but then again, the PS3 ones are at the top and the 360 ones are at the bottom....



Aaah, screw it. The Japanese don't know what they're missing. I'll be playing Blue Dragon and Viva Pinata at TGS and they'll be waiting in line to watch the extended trailer of FFXIII.


No lines for me at TGS!!!
 
bumpkin said:
I don't get why Japan isn't buying the 360... I mean other than just being tools who live, breath and die for Sony. It's their fault the Dreamcast died.

Well, as of now, I can kind of understand why they're not buying it, but if they don't start buying by November, I'll be confused as hell
 
bumpkin said:
I don't get why Japan isn't buying the 360... I mean other than just being tools who live, breath and die for Sony. It's their fault the Dreamcast died.

Except for the fact Japan was the best market for the DC?

Americans and Europeans failed Sega. Or maybe Sega failed itself.
 
dirtmonkey37 said:
Well, as of now, I can kind of understand why they're not buying it, but if they don't start buying by November, I'll be confused as hell
Its going to be interesting to see if the ridiculous PS3 price will actually help Xbox360. I doubt it though, customers who wont pay the price for a PS3 and want a console will probably buy a wii.
 
bumpkin said:
I don't get why Japan isn't buying the 360... I mean other than just being tools who live, breath and die for Sony. It's their fault the Dreamcast died.

Would you buy a system that didn't have games that interested in you?
 
nfreakct said:
Except for the fact Japan was the best market for the DC?

Americans and Europeans failed Sega. Or maybe Sega failed itself.
I seem to recall the "Icons" special on G4 having that Steven Kent guy saying it bombed in Japan because consumers were all holding out for PlayStation 2. Don't shoot the messenger, blame Kent if he was telling false facts.

SolidSnakex said:
Would you buy a system that didn't have games that interested in you?
According to that Sony face, we'll all buy a PS3 even if there aren't any games at all. :lol
 
bumpkin said:
According to that Sony face, we'll all buy a PS3 even if there aren't any games at all. :lol

LoLz! I guess that's a no, in which case you shouldn't be all that surprised that people in Japan aren't running out to buy a 360.
 
I just want the 360 to suceed in Japan so we get more Japanese support past the year 2007.


As of now, it seems........bleak.

This is because some Japanese games are really worthwhile (DMC, NG, RE, JSRF)
 
dirtmonkey37 said:
I just want the 360 to suceed in Japan so we get more Japanese support past the year 2007.


As of now, it seems........bleak.

This is because some Japanese games are really worthwhile (DMC, NG, RE, JSRF)
DMC and RE are both 360-bound, are they not? And we know we'll see another NG... Itagaki loves the Xbox line's hardware.
 
Not DMC, I think the lack of MS first party is a big part of the blame. Perfect Dark, Halo, not big in Japan.

Sony has Loco Roco, Vib Ribbon, Eye Of Judgement, low key novelty games, they have the size to do that, while MS fiest party seems to be spread very thin and can't fill in the gaps in their line up.
 
bumpkin said:
DMC and RE are both 360-bound, are they not? And we know we'll see another NG... Itagaki loves the Xbox line's hardware.
Re will be released on Xbox360, but Ive not heard anything about DMC being released on it. As far as im aware DMC is PS3 exclusive. Is Ninja gaiden 2 Xbox360 exclusive.
 
bumpkin said:
DMC and RE are both 360-bound

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The DMC rumor came from a bad Magic Box translation (that was actually months old by the time some sites picked it up) in which Kobayashi actually says that they aren't doing a 360 or Wii version of the game and its PS3 exclusive.
 
slade said:
Jury's still out on that.
Good. Im not planning on buying an Xbox360 anytime soon, NG looked as good as DMC. I really want to play it but I dont want to splash out a load of money just to play one game, so I just hope temco also make it a PS3 game. I cant see why they wont do it. PS3 will have a larger userbase and this time round Playstation 3 is just as powerful as Xbox360 so the game should looks great on both consoles.
 
Well the future of the 360 was kinda doomed from the get go... MS gave it to them without any lube and not even a reach around with the xbox, so ppl there were skeptical at best with the 360... now, after how these new games were basically all ill-received over there, it's pretty much over like it or not...

It wouldn't be much of a surprise at all if they wouldn't pick up any major grounds in sales through Nov even with these big RPG's and stuff being released... The PS3 and Wii are going to sell like crazy no matter what, and I doubt people will buy a 360 just cause they're mad they can't get a PS3 or Wii... Those games are not going to really help out that situation no matter what... I think it's over...

Games are what sell consoles yes... but... Not in this case since MS really gave it to them over there the first time while Sony's obviously delivered 2-gens in a row and Nintendo delivers what they want as well in games...

People may say to hell with Japan, but all it's doing is limiting your game selection... If MS said to hell with Japan, then you wouldn't be lucky enough to see Dead Rising or Resident Evil 5 (though, I think that if the Wii had the overall oomph to match the 360, it would still be a Sony and Nintendo only game)... and it may end up turning away supporters... you may not see Ninja Gaiden then, no matter how much he likes the hardware if he doesn't have any support in his own country...

If MS was to even think about launching an xbox 720 over there, they better substitute Xbox with "Samsung, Mitsubishi, or Panasonic"... and not put MS on that box anywhere... maybe it'd trick a couple more ppl into buying it...

Personally... even I'm a lil sour with the selection for the 360 over here even... i could only imagine what it's like there for them...
 
J-Rzez said:
People may say to hell with Japan, but all it's doing is limiting your game selection... If MS said to hell with Japan, then you wouldn't be lucky enough to see Dead Rising or Resident Evil 5 (though, I think that if the Wii had the overall oomph to match the 360, it would still be a Sony and Nintendo only game)... and it may end up turning away supporters... you may not see Ninja Gaiden then, no matter how much he likes the hardware if he doesn't have any support in his own country...
Will japans Xbox360 userbase actually affect Itagaki's decision to put NG on Xbox360? Is NG popular over in japan?
 
Heian-Kyo said:
Why do so few Nintendo fans acknowledge the fact that the majority of gamers in Japan haven't given two shits about Nintendo's home consoles in years?

It's not as if the DS came out of nowhere, the GB and GBA before it were massive successes.
Even with more competition, DS has done significantly better than GBA. Even if Wii is only similarly more successful than GameCube, it will be their biggest home console in a decade.

Speevy said:
Thus it follows that the Xbox has the third largest console library in history
NES? SNES? Genesis? 2600?
 
psycho_snake said:
Will japans Xbox360 userbase actually affect Itagaki's decision to put NG on Xbox360? Is NG popular over in japan?

That's what I'm not too sure of... I couldn't find the numbers for there specifically... I'd imagine it did just fine... but, that's why I put "may" affect in there... That is unless MS would cough up so much cash that the devil himself would sell his soul...
 
The 360 (just like their xbox) is a lost cause in Japan. For their next machine, the only way MS could make any real headway over the pacific is if they partnered up with a serious Japanese company with a competent marketing department. Will that happen? Probably not.

IMO, of course.
 
Wait...

if Every Party was a Japan-exclusive, and it's sold 641 copies in Japan, then hasn't it sold 641 copies, total? :lol :lol :lol
 
nfreakct said:
Except for the fact Japan was the best market for the DC?
Er... no.

SEGA sold less than 3 million Dreamcasts in Japan... while that might look good in comparison to Xbox or 360 numbers, it was less than half of what Saturn managed. Software sales were rather shit too, with basically every big game (Virtua Fighter, Sega Rally, Sakura Taisen, Grandia, Capcom fighters, etc) selling 50% or less of what their predecessors managed on Saturn.
 
Mr_Furious said:
The 360 (just like their xbox) is a lost cause in Japan. For their next machine, the only way MS could make any real headway over the pacific is if they partnered up with a serious Japanese company with a competent marketing department. Will that happen? Probably not.

IMO, of course.


Shitty marketing + no knowledge of the japanese market + the latter is a declining market + XBOX brand means nothing over there = NO FUTURE for 360.
 
Barnolde said:
The publishers do it. Because they're jerks.

afaik every japanese 360 game to date has been region-locked, whereas a number of us and asian releases have been region-free. it seems more like some microsoft japan policy than every publisher coming to the same decision.
 
bumpkin said:
DMC and RE are both 360-bound, are they not? And we know we'll see another NG... Itagaki loves the Xbox line's hardware.


Didn't you get the memo?

SolidSnakex said:
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The DMC rumor came from a bad Magic Box translation (that was actually months old by the time some sites picked it up) in which Kobayashi actually says that they aren't doing a 360 or Wii version of the game and its PS3 exclusive.
 
-Damien- said:
NG sold only 50K in Japan, you decide.....
And NG Black only sold 7,349. So if Tecmo decides to keep NG exclusive for the X360, it will be because they expect strong western sales. Japan won't factor into the decision. If they want the game to sell in Japan, they will have to bring it to the PS3 as well.

Polari said:
Wait...

if Every Party was a Japan-exclusive, and it's sold 641 copies in Japan, then hasn't it sold 641 copies, total? :lol :lol :lol
Ha ha...

I only had the first week's sales for Every Party because it never charted. But I found a complete chart of sales at the end of the year - I just never updated that title. Anyway, I went back and edited my previous post. The new total is

1,375 Every Party (Microsoft) (12/10/05) - through Dec 25/05

Really - does it make a difference? :lol
 
If they want the game to sell in Japan, they will have to bring it to the PS3 as well.


Yeah, I'm sure Itagaki sits up and worries about the future of his company if he doesn't make PS3 games.
 
The talk of Ninja Gaiden in this therad has me thinking. We've heard the rumor of Ninja Gaiden Black to PS3. That would give many Japanese gamers who missed it the chance to play and experience how awesome it is. All the new fans would then want to play the sequel which woud help Microsoft if Ninja Gaiden 2 was exclusive to 360.
 
-Damien- said:
no it didn't, about 500-600K in the U.S, 200-300K Europe, total about 1 million

That's a shame though... such a good game... :( It deserves the chance to sell on other consoles...
 
Speevy said:
Yeah, I'm sure Itagaki sits up and worries about the future of his company if he doesn't make PS3 games.

Probably not since he seems to be warming up to the PS3 quite a bit

Kikizo: I am guessing you're thinking seriously about PS3 stuff right now, what can we expect from you on the PS3 side of things?
Itagaki: Of course I am a developer and a programmer, and I am very curious about the PS3 architecture, so I am studying all about it. Last year I did not have enough information on it! But now I know enough about it, I think it's a pretty exciting time.
 
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