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Is it safe to buy a 360 yet?

gohepcat said:
I seem to remember IBM or AMD having trouble transitioning to 180nm from 250nm a few years back. I think they ended up being a year late or something. It's a really hard thing to do.

Better late than never, i guess.
 
AltogetherAndrews said:
Flesh Into Gear said:
If you can get one of the HDMI premiums than I think you're safe. Depends on where you live though, it might be a pain finding one.
Any evidence to support this notion?

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Yerrrr. Yeah it's not the hdmi premium but they have hdmi, right? =O
 
FightyF said:
As you're a junior member you probably aren't aware, CP makes comments where you are supposed to take the exact opposite of what he says to understand the true meaning. He's been doing this for a while, it's pretty funny.
Ah, it all makes sense now. I was starting to take his username seriously because of all his idiotic posts.
 
Whoaness said:
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Yerrrr. Yeah it's not the hdmi premium but they have hdmi, right? =O

Hmm that doesn't give me much hope. I just had my second one die on me yesterday while trying to download the Flatout demo :'(. Oh well, I've got a Gamestop warranty and friends there, I'll just get a Zephyr and hope for the best.
 
My first reaction was to tell you that your money would be better spent on learning how to read and write, then I saw that you were from another country ... oops

Regarding the 360, it's a great product. I've owned a Pro since launch, recently upgrading to an Elite, and have never had any problems with either system. Besides, (depending on where you live) chances are the retailer will offer a warranty, which should shield you from losing any money.
 
Darkman M said:
Had mine since launch day no red lights for me.

Same here. Japanese launch 360. Have dragged it through 3 different time zones/power supplies and treated it like shit. No ROD yet but it has been giving me some weird clicking sounds through the audio output when i play Bioshock..

If i were you, I would wait for the 65nm revision. Surely it should be out soon?
 
No, all the fun you could be having with the games is just not worth the intense fear you will have of the console breaking down and *gasp* having to do something besides play video games for a few weeks.
 
driley said:
My first reaction was to tell you that your money would be better spent on learning how to read and write, then I saw that you were from another country ... oops
What?

Regarding the 360, it's a great product. I've owned a Pro since launch, recently upgrading to an Elite, and have never had any problems with either system. Besides, (depending on where you live) chances are the retailer will offer a warranty, which should shield you from losing any money.
That doesn't make it okay! :P
Aleman said:
No, all the fun you could be having with the games is just not worth the intense fear you will have of the console breaking down and *gasp* having to do something besides play video games for a few weeks.
Don't be stupid. There is obviously a retarded problem with the system, and mayhaps time will bring a sensible end to it. After my first one died, I didn't deem the hassle worthy to deal with another one (my roommate did buy one and his lasted even less time!) so to be concerned about reducing hassle in life is hardly a bad thing. :D
I do want one but can realistically wait until something meaningful is done here.
 
I bought a 360 recently from cc with manufacture date of 9/2006, can I still get the 3 year warranty? or should I take it back?
 
RevenantKioku said:
Don't be stupid. There is obviously a retarded problem with the system, and mayhaps time will bring a sensible end to it. After my first one died, I didn't deem the hassle worthy to deal with another one (my roommate did buy one and his lasted even less time!) so to be concerned about reducing hassle in life is hardly a bad thing. :D
I do want one but can realistically wait until something meaningful is done here.

Heck, mine is at the repair shop right now. I'm happy it broke down cause now I'm actually getting my school work done :lol

It's not a big hassle, the only effort it took was logging onto service.xbox.com and then putting it in the UPS box they sent me and dropping it off at the UPS Store.
 
Hesemonni said:
Probably the same genius who designed the console inside the kiosk...
sorry

Why apologize? Do you work for Microsoft?

@kruskev: Yeah, you have the 1 year everything warranty and the 3 year RROD warranty.
 
More anecdotal evidence FTW! 3 of my friends took the plunge on Elites months ago. Since, 2 of them had to be replaced for a variety of reasons, 4 and 6 weeks later respectively, they were repaired. The one that continues to work does so flawlessly. /shrug

I haven't taken the plunge, and most likely will purchase a PS3 to go along with my Wii, PC sometime in the near future, once Sony gets their pricing in order.
 
Considering how mine is still at the MS repair center, I'm tempted to say ''hell no'', but people in the know might tell you otherwise (I believe they've fixed the issues with additional heatsinks).
 
tanod said:
I have. Check the My 360 died thread.

Yours was made in 2006 wasn't it and it wasn't HDMI, it doesn't count.

So far the newer systems have lesser issues in the same amount of time. But if really want to play games such as Halo 3 or something around the corner then please get a HDMI premium or the newer elites. We don't have evidence that it lasts longer other then our own experience that the heat output of the machines are cooler and drives don't fucking scratch our disc finally.

But so far it looks promising.
 
kruskev said:

Yes you still have the 3 year warranty. If you can take it back to the store and look for something made after july 2007 or after lot no. 0724 (for the HDMI and 2nd heatsink + zephyr motherboard)
 
of course its safe, you get 3 years warranty, who cares if it rrod's, you get it fixed, and hopefully with the new improvements to its design
 
BCD2 said:
What kind of genius designed that kiosk?
It's funny, because for a long while, the PS3 kiosks got mocked for having the real PS3 underneath the display and hidden.
acm2000 said:
of course its safe, you get 3 years warranty, who cares if it rrod's, you get it fixed, and hopefully with the new improvements to its design
You lose 1-6 weeks of playtime. You have to repurchase all your downloadable content if you want to play them online. Your 'new' system now is a refurbed one from someone else.
 
Whoaness said:
[im]http://kotaku.com/assets/resources/2007/08/360elitedead.jpg[/img]

Yerrrr. Yeah it's not the hdmi premium but they have hdmi, right? =O

why do you guys still use this shit as evidence? even ps3s die in those conditions.
 
M3wThr33 said:
It's funny, because for a long while, the PS3 kiosks got mocked for having the real PS3 underneath the display and hidden.

You lose 1-6 weeks of playtime. You have to repurchase all your downloadable content if you want to play them online

You mean offline, you can play your XBLA games online on another console with your gamertag.
 
bigswords said:
Yours was made in 2006 wasn't it and it wasn't HDMI, it doesn't count.

So far the newer systems have lesser issues in the same amount of time. But if really want to play games such as Halo 3 or something around the corner then please get a HDMI premium or the newer elites. We don't have evidence that it lasts longer other then our own experience that the heat output of the machines are cooler and drives don't fucking scratch our disc finally.

But so far it looks promising.

Mine's not dead, yet. I was talking about videoman's.
 
My 360 has been on since like 9PM last night... I'm at school right now.

It's still on. I'm downloading like 10gb of demos hahahaha
 
TerryLee81 said:
This year: 65nm CPU
Next year: 65nm GPU
45nm: no one knows

My bad, I should have checked the numbers before posting. I meant 65nm, the Falcon or whatever it's called. So yes, I think six months is a reasonable time frame for my 360 deal.

Do you think the GPU shrinkage will make a big difference, worth waiting for? Is it the CPU or GPU that's been melting solder and causing three rings?
 
kazuo said:
My 360 has been on since like 9PM last night... I'm at school right now.

It's still on. I'm downloading like 10gb of demos hahahaha
Someone on my friends list had is on and set to Away since 24/08. I noticed him online last night so sent him a message asking if he was trying to kill his 360. :lol

Turns out he went on holiday and forgot to turn the thing off.
 
is there really a picture of one on fire? I'd like to see that if someone doesn't mind linking....



wormstrangler said:
I'm living on the edge of life - I bought a refurbished unit 3 weeks ago. No problems so far.


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Pretty much seems like it will never be safe to buy one. Expect failure and be pleasantly surprised by complete function for years.
 
I guess it is.
 
J-Rzez said:
Fucking crazy... so, even with the heat sinks there's still issues? They really need to just massively redesign the mobo layout or something...

Well..how many reports of 360's with the new heat sinks have gone bad? think about it..not very many from what i can tell, could maybe it just been a bad box?
 
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